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General Software Discussion / Re: I found a jewel of a program: XMplay

« on: December 01, 2007, 05:10 PM »

Has anyone tried the jetAudio (freeware version) and made a comparison to the others?
jetAudio download

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General Software Discussion / Re: GemX - missing in action

« on: October 21, 2007, 10:11 AM »

Look, you guys, you got your point of views and I got mine...
If do-O simply doesn't suit you, then move on...

I simply thought things over and for me, well, that's where it's at. Generally, I don't see much point about negative reviews about developers 'cause I've seen loads of them and shortly after, the problems were resolved - but the negative review remains even after corrections. So the question might be asked: what good is it? It's just hinders - that's all. What good does it accomplish? I can't find any sensible answers to it... I see that kind of stuff everywhere on the net. I've seen companies put out great efforts with updates and problem corrections but the "negative" reviews hang in there just-the-same... I have rarely seen someone turn-around and go through all the threads where reviews were posted and change that "message" to a positive one after discovering adequate solutions presented by developers for their software. Normally, when people post negative reviews, they abandon a project - so they never go back... it has a sort of "permanent effect".

I'm not acting as their spokesman here, certainly not, but rather, just expressing my personal point of view - no one has to agree with it, ofcourse. But that's how I see things...

You were "pissed off" - who wasn't? - but the point is, it's over for me. I no longer want to look at things through that angle. I have to forget it so I can move forward... otherwise, I feel like I'm just hindering myself...

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General Software Discussion / Re: GemX - missing in action

« on: October 21, 2007, 01:10 AM »

The conflicted perspective? I didn't want this to turn out like this. I agree with doublewitt - the product has huge potential and I hope GemX can put this episode behind them and realise that potential. I'm on the fence at the moment WRT whether or not I'll be along for the ride. I do feel that they've got their work cut out for them in managing the fallout from the past three months, but hope that they are able to do so.

-Darwin (October 17, 2007, 05:22 PM)

The point is: the more we "complain" and "rant", the more we move away from the correct perspective. You can get so carried away with such things till you become blind to the truth - which is: well, if you think about it enough, the more you continue like that, the more you actually work against yourself - why? because that developer (GemX), will probably come around and provide just what you need. In a sense, they already have, but more progress will be made and you will benefit from it. But if you keep jabbing them in the back and everywhere possible on the net (reviews), you're only working against yourself... you are wasting your time, and you just might plainly regret it... and what will you have accomplished? I figure, a rare product like that should be taken into into a sensible perspective. And yes, sometimes, to get somewhere, and hold that perspective, you have to jump-the-hurdle. You have to help one another out... Often, people will support developers ONLY when things go well, - the minute things don't roll as they should, "that's it! - I've had enough". But it's then that your support counts the most - when the going gets rough! Development and funds go hand-in-hand, the more you destroy the incoming funds process, less developments will be made. Who will suffer? - you! Why demolish your own opportunity? What's the point? Just wait, - things will change. I've realized through discussion with them, that they are solidly determined to continue their mission.

Look, I got into that "attitude" like everybody else, I'm not perfect( ), but I figure it's time to get my attitude in line for a healthy perspective... and for do-O, I'm ready to "do-O it!"
Everyday, I still enjoy using it... and what a pleasure!!!

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General Software Discussion / Re: GemX - missing in action

« on: October 17, 2007, 04:31 PM »

I can see there are people here that are willing to forgive them and forget - I'm not one of them.

-zak11000 (October 16, 2007, 04:00 AM)

Well, I guess, I'm going to contradict the common trend. For the past 8 years, I've searched and have been through all the hassles you could imagine on the NET - and I think everybody knows what I mean (surfing, reading, downloads, installs, uninstalls, forums, start, and restart, etc. [not to mention what that does to your system]). The truth is, I have never seen anything like do-O and I mean NOTHING! Their work is so talented and creative and they delivered a good software that I can say has a touch of class. Look, let's face it, despite things, do-O is outstanding. And I know that for now, there is no other to match the inspiration behind do-O. I don't care what you tell me. You can criticize me, ridicule me, and whatever, but look, it doesn't really matter. I'm sticking it out with them. I think they deserve it. You watch, maybe within the next 6 months, things will shape up. Needless to say, I've been through endless ordeals with almost every developer - I really don't think that anyone out there is perfect. But I do honestly think that no one deserves it like GemX does - regardless. There's not one thing anyone here can say to change my mind. I still think that GemX will continue to out-do others. They have enough talent to do so. They have done an outstanding job! I believe in them and I really think that they will come through...

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General Software Discussion / Re: GemX - missing in action

« on: October 17, 2007, 03:51 PM »

let me give you a more general example.

suppose you buy a programming library. it costs US$2,000 to license. it comes with all the features you needed and the vendor's web-pages tell of many success stories. you buy it, and then start to integrate it into your program. All seems to goes well until you start getting complaints... the library vendor supports you a little and then, later ignores you... you get stuck with a nightmare situation: you tell your boss you spent US$2,000 and need to buy another library to fix the probem, or try to fix the library a bit here and a bit there, and try to please your customer.

-vizacc (October 17, 2007, 12:27 AM)

Thanks for the tips.
Seeing "we" are not programmers, its interesting to know about these issues. It gives us more insight about the complications developers face in their jobs... I always thought how "cool" it would be if developers would help us understand more... maybe that way, we could stand behind them and not always immediately assume other things... If they would "talk" to us more, like that [above quote], we could be more understanding and assist them with more meaningful attitudes.

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General Software Discussion / Re: GemX - missing in action

« on: October 17, 2007, 03:07 PM »

I can't say for sure but I think Doublewitt was just questioning the value of publicly 'dismantling' (listing all the libraries etc used) another developers software in open forum at the same time as promoting a competitors software.

I am sure the Helpmaker application discussion would benefit from its own thread away from the many mixed feelings that are plainly felt in connection to the GemX situation.

Just a thought.

-Beth UK (October 17, 2007, 08:38 AM)

Kindly,

No offense either from my end, I just find that approach about GemX a bit rough. Yes, I was kinda being serious and funny at the same time... Anyways, they are going through a rough time - why make it worse for them? Generally, I think that software developers should be careful about how they refer to one another in the public arena. If you want to win clients to your software project, don't degrade or devalue other projects... I think that's just simple common sense. Otherwise, it opens the door to misunderstandings... I don't want to give the impression that I'm totally defending Gemx, though it might seem that way, but it's more an issue for defending principles...

Yes, I believe it's a good idea for Sally to introduce her software officially in this thread:

Announce it here

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General Software Discussion / Re: GemX - missing in action

« on: October 16, 2007, 09:47 PM »

- Vizacc don't use them +++++++++++++ libraries .

-vizacc (October 15, 2007, 02:29 PM)

It's a good thing THAT was changed...
I'm starting to think that Helpmaker is more a Troublemaker...
I wonder if I should have anything to do with people like that - no class at all...

Even TreeDB makes better multi-tabbed eBOOKS...

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General Software Discussion / Re: GemX - missing in action

« on: October 15, 2007, 09:56 PM »

I can almost guarantee, if they ever do bring the forum back, it will be brand new - not inclusive of the original posts.

-sigh... (October 15, 2007, 08:37 PM)

I think everything will be there - certainly... we will just pick up from where we left off.
Every business has it's ups and downs... so we'll just wait and see how things turn out.

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General Software Discussion / Re: GemX - missing in action

« on: October 13, 2007, 11:08 AM »

I think if they just said how it was going for them, we would have backed them up.

-datamill (October 13, 2007, 07:52 AM)

It's all in the approach... if you stick it out with your clients, they'll do the same for you, especially when you have a good product. I think we would have all backed them. But the way things were done, well, ...clients made their moves in other directions. It will be difficult for them to regain confidence.

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Announce Your Software/Service/Product / Re: Total Text Container (PIM)

« on: October 12, 2007, 10:40 PM »

You don't see software like that everyday...!
Nice approach, big potential, and yes, very impressive...
Keep up the good work!

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General Software Discussion / Re: GemX - missing in action

« on: October 12, 2007, 10:16 PM »

How can you not have enough man-hours for 20-30 minutes per day?
The reality is that the real reasons are disguised...

I think so too: emails and posts didn't seem to be from Peter Brooks himself - it really showed...

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General Software Discussion / Re: GemX - missing in action

« on: October 12, 2007, 06:30 PM »

From my experience, there was maybe 5-6 NEW bug reports a day. This is not very many new posts. I really believe what has been pointed out here. The team simply couldn't take the amount of criticism they were receiving and decided to close the forums.

-Josh (October 12, 2007, 05:31 AM)

Well, the forum was rather slow-paced, in general. There's no reason why they couldn't have put 20 minutes/day to offer valuable input. Certainly anything from 20 - 30 minutes doesn't ruin your day's schedule, especially if you are using do-Organizer! Applying a "minimal" and consistent attention like that would have been sufficient. The idea is to be constant.

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General Software Discussion / Re: GemX - missing in action

« on: October 11, 2007, 03:26 PM »

They waited ALL THAT TIME before making an announcement...!!! (2 months) They tortured their clients with no "active" concern. Now that's a poor show of professionalism. Not only that, in early August, they said that in 2 weeks we would see version 3.1. It's now 2 months and no show for the update. They could have helped in compensating with an announcement for an available update at the same time. That would have made a difference... They are so unthoughtful. They recuperated so many man-hours as they said over the past 2 months and no update... they really have no class at all...

It seems that they don't have the man-hours for support services either.

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General Software Discussion / Re: GemX - missing in action

« on: October 10, 2007, 05:17 PM »

In general, a forum is like the life-line for a product and it's development. It's a vital resource for users and it's also criterion for purchasing software. Most people avoid software companies who have no forum and almost no means of communication. eMAIL alone just won't do...

Removing the links looks like a suicide move to me...
There isn't much sense to that. How many software companies pull stunts like that...??!! the fact that they alone do it, brings a greater spotlight on them and the consequences will certainly be negative. It's really a strange affair...

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General Software Discussion / Re: GemX - missing in action

« on: October 06, 2007, 05:32 PM »

OK, I just discovered it on the forum. It's scheduled for the 15th of October.
Thanks

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General Software Discussion / Re: GemX - missing in action

« on: October 06, 2007, 08:48 AM »

Looks interesting, thanks for the explanation.
As soon as v8 is available, I will check it out. Do you have an idea as to when v8 will be available?

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General Software Discussion / Re: GemX - missing in action

« on: October 05, 2007, 05:30 PM »

hi,
I took a "closer look" at their software.

How would you like to test my software that does more/less the same?

Mine is different in the sense it uses RDBMS to store data.
Choose your RDBMS: - MSSQL, MySQL, Firebird, Sybase ASA, DB/2, Oracle.

-vizacc (October 05, 2007, 03:24 PM)

What is it...???

-doublewitt (October 05, 2007, 03:31 PM)

What is it...???

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General Software Discussion / Re: GemX - missing in action

« on: October 05, 2007, 05:25 PM »

(and I will follow up on this)

-Darwin (October 05, 2007, 04:37 PM)

I tend to think that those who process refund transactions will consider this as a "new" transaction as of today, you know what I mean, so I'd be surprised if they revert back to a past exchange rate... who knows... it's worth following up anyways! Maybe Carol is right...

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General Software Discussion / Re: GemX - missing in action

« on: October 05, 2007, 03:36 PM »

Isn't the transaction according to the current rates? Is there another policy that is applied?

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General Software Discussion / Re: GemX - missing in action

« on: October 05, 2007, 03:31 PM »

hi,
I took a "closer look" at their software.

How would you like to test my software that does more/less the same?

Mine is different in the sense it uses RDBMS to store data.
Choose your RDBMS: - MSSQL, MySQL, Firebird, Sybase ASA, DB/2, Oracle.

-vizacc (October 05, 2007, 03:24 PM)

What is it...???

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General Software Discussion / Re: GemX - missing in action

« on: October 05, 2007, 03:30 PM »

Hmmm... I'm starting to question the wisdom of having requested a refund: I paid $70US in August when the Canadian dollar sat around $.96US. If I get my refund over the weekend I'll be paid back with the US dollar worth $.98CDN! I''m going to be losing money on this deal... Not to mention that the credit card company charged me a fee to do the conversion from Canadian to US currency and will do the same again 

-Darwin (October 05, 2007, 03:19 PM)

Well, at least, that's not a bad refund...
better off losing a part of it than to lose the whole sum...
Would it be wiser to lose all?

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General Software Discussion / Re: GemX - missing in action

« on: October 05, 2007, 01:40 PM »

Their beta team doesnt have any contact either. I am part of the beta team and the latest release I have was a 3.09 beta release which "fixed the reminders bug", although it really didnt. The way they are handling this is going to shoot them in the foot and IF they ever open their forums back up, I plan to voice my disapproval very vocally.

-Josh (October 05, 2007, 11:06 AM)

You also, have the right...

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General Software Discussion / Re: GemX - missing in action

« on: October 05, 2007, 11:58 AM »

No luck with the phone call/fax?
Did you try?

There were only a few beta testers (5-6)... at least in the beta testing forum, that's all there was, and they generally, were not very active. The greater part of all the beta reports were coming in from me.

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General Software Discussion / Re: GemX - missing in action

« on: October 05, 2007, 10:51 AM »

Agree. And if you want to close down the forum. That's fine - that's their right.

-zak11000 (October 05, 2007, 10:01 AM)

Any business has the right...
But as we say; "It's not what you do, but HOW you do it" - or - "it's not what you say, but rather, HOW you say it" that's what counts...

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General Software Discussion / Re: GemX - missing in action

« on: October 05, 2007, 10:10 AM »

It's kinda rough, I guess. But I can take it with a