-panzer
I enjoyed that one. Bill Still does some great work and some of his documentaries are pretty much classics.
@panzer: Thanks for posting about those films - always happy to have my comfort zones stretched a bit.
My take:
- SEPTEMBER CLUES 9/11 - YouTube: I hadn't seen that "911 conspiracy theory" video before, and it seemed a quite well-made and well-researched amateur film, and it definitely had something to say. From experience, and given the catalogue of what look rather like tell-tale warning lights, during and post-911, particularly regarding the "911 Commission", and including, for example, the treatment of conflicting eyewitness reports, the preferential appointment of key personnel, the funding constraints, deliberate procrastination, prevarication, redaction (actually hiding some of the truth), lack of FOI, and a seemingly inconclusive outcome with suspect "truth", one might be forgiven for assuming that Americans were a somewhat gullible lot if they all swallowed it wholesale, as directed. But they aren't, and they didn't, and the production of 911 conspiracy theory videos/films illustrates that and was arguably a predictable outcome under the circumstances.
-IainB
I rather enjoy a lot of them. Some are crap, others are good, and some are just really interesting.
I watched the first 10 minutes of this one, and it's certainly interesting. Not sure if I buy it, but hey - interesting is good.
If anyone has seen any 9/11 videos about aliens, and it's half-way decent, I'd be interested. Aliens are always fun!~
The point was missed in all of the text that was thrown at the ill perceived problem. That stuff is in general basement worthy. That's my point. I really don't care about what is posted... just the fact that it was shoehorned in.
-wraith808
I think I'm with Panzer on this. He just posted some videos that he saw. There are no IMDB entries for a lot of amateur or alternative films, and often the best link is just the YouTube link itself. It's not like he's posting news programs or talk shows -- they're feature length films/documentaries.
It's not like anyone is starting any fights over any movies or films in this thread.
Anyone like
Gary Cooper?
I just saw a 1949 film with him in it.
The Fountainhead.
It wears its message on its sleeve. But I don't see any reason to not talk about films that have a message -- they're some of the most interesting/entertaining.
The dystopian world or dystopian future genres are again filled with some of the best films of all time. And they're more often than not entirely political.
Heck, Star Wars is set in a dystopian galaxy and the political imagery is in your face -- the Empire's uniforms were modeled after Nazi uniforms. Luke Skywalker is radicalised by a religious priest (Jedi knight - Ben Kenobi) and goes from being a farmer to being a terrorist.
- A Clockwork Orange
- Atlas Shrugged
- Blade Runner
- Brazil
- Cherry 2000
- Elysium
- Equilibrium
- Escape from New York
- Fahrenheit 451
- Gattaca
- Idiocracy
- Mad Max
- Metropolis
- Nineteen Eighty-Four
- Planet of the Apes
- Serenity
- Soylent Green
- The Hunger Games
- The Matrix
- The Terminator
- They Live
- THX 1138
- Total Recall
- V for Vendetta
- Waterworld
- Zardoz
And so many more.
Some of the best films ever made are in that short list above, and they're all making political or social statements. The degree of controversy behind those statements varies by the film, but I don't see anyone getting all political or SJW or preachy or anything about any of the films people have posted.
Cherry 2000 is about technology, human sexuality, freewill, and companionship. Lots for people to lose their minds over in that film. But nobody is losing their minds and freaking out in this thread.
Nobody is forcing anyone to watch any of these either. Though when my general tastes line up with someone else's, I am more inclined to go out and watch a film if they recommend it, and more inclined not to watch one if they recommend against it. I think that's one of the great things about this thread --- I can go through it and pick out films that I've not seen, then decide based on a few factors, including WHO posted it and their thoughts on it.
But. That's just my
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