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Author Topic: Any native english speakers?  (Read 1351 times)

kalos

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Any native english speakers?
« on: August 30, 2017, 04:56 PM »
Hello!

Can you tell me please what do you think the answer to the questions below is?

http://i.imgur.com/qMyZ9Ay.png

This one says "a" doctor "would" report. Is this talking about a random doctor or all doctors?

Thanks!

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Re: Any native english speakers?
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2017, 05:11 PM »
That question at the end is very awkwardly phrased, and is not written in a way that has a real answer.

The question, after the story, is: "A doctor would report to the police a patient who was a danger to others: True | False | Cannot say"

This doesn't quite make sense as a question.  It sounds like it should be asking your opinion, as in: "SHOULD a doctor would report to the police a patient who was a danger to others"

As written, the most generous way to answer it would be that the story tells you that "MOST" doctors believe that they should report such things.  So that the answer to the question "A doctor would report.." would be: "most doctors would".
Whether the closest answer in that case would be "cannot say" or "true" is in the eye of the beholder.

Your question:
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This one says "a" doctor "would" report. Is this talking about a random doctor or all doctors?

The statement is very unclear and not something a native speaker would write.  I would say the closest interpretation would be "a random doctor".

But I suspect that the question was mistranslated, and the best answer to such a question on a test would be "I REFUSE TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION BECAUSE IT IS MALFORMED."

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Re: Any native english speakers?
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2017, 05:26 PM »
The paragraph says that *some* doctors have an "absolute confidentiality" policy, but *most* doctors have a policy that allows them to report when there's a danger to society.  So I would answer the question with "Cannot say" because the text says that some doctors will not report under any conditions, and therefore you cannot say what an arbitrary doctor would do.

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Re: Any native english speakers?
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2017, 05:37 PM »
Thanks, I felt really stupid not being able to answer that confidently.

As for the below, any idea?
http://i.imgur.com/rBohyhz.png

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Re: Any native english speakers?
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2017, 05:39 PM »
The paragraph says that *some* doctors have an "absolute confidentiality" policy, but *most* doctors have a policy that allows them to report when there's a danger to society.  So I would answer the question with "Cannot say" because the text says that some doctors will not report under any conditions, and therefore you cannot say what an arbitrary doctor would do.

True, but at the same time, an arbitrary doctor "would" report, because there are some doctors who do report.

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Re: Any native english speakers?
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2017, 02:44 PM »
Thanks, I felt really stupid not being able to answer that confidently.

As for the below, any idea?
http://i.imgur.com/rBohyhz.png


Any idea?

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Re: Any native english speakers?
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2017, 02:48 PM »
 ;D
I am not a native speaker, but in the forum of AHK they take me by one in the spanis forum !!!!!!!!!!!

 :-*

I think is not a random doctor, only a not determined doctor.

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Re: Any native english speakers?
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2017, 12:41 PM »
The paragraph says that *some* doctors have an "absolute confidentiality" policy, but *most* doctors have a policy that allows them to report when there's a danger to society.  So I would answer the question with "Cannot say" because the text says that some doctors will not report under any conditions, and therefore you cannot say what an arbitrary doctor would do.

True, but at the same time, an arbitrary doctor "would" report, because there are some doctors who do report.
No.
What mwb1100 says is correct.

kalos

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Re: Any native english speakers?
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2017, 01:18 PM »
Thanks, I felt really stupid not being able to answer that confidently.

As for the below, any idea?
http://i.imgur.com/rBohyhz.png


Any idea?

OK but this one is different, it's maths but I cannot solve it :(

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Re: Any native english speakers?
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2017, 05:18 PM »
1) If you're not supposed to already know the rules for a doctor, then the answer is "Cannot say", because of "some doctors this, and some doctors that".
2) The difference is £1.182

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Re: Any native english speakers?
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2017, 03:37 AM »
2) The difference is £1.182
I'm presuming you mean one thousand etc., in which case it would have a comma:
£1,182

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Re: Any native english speakers?
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2017, 03:55 PM »
1) If you're not supposed to already know the rules for a doctor, then the answer is "Cannot say", because of "some doctors this, and some doctors that".
2) The difference is £1.182


How you got that?

I think the percentage of price increase for each property is (216-182)/182 and (175-146)/146.
So the first price will increase 18681 and the second 19863. So the total difference in price will be 18681 + 19863 = 38544

I don't see any error in the above calculations???

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Re: Any native english speakers?
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2017, 05:29 PM »
Anyone??

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Re: Any native english speakers?
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2017, 05:59 PM »
???????????????

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Re: Any native english speakers?
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2017, 05:17 AM »
???????????????
Debe ser que no hay kalos. Yo es que vivo en España. Lo mismo te valgo. El otro día me dijeron que parecia un inglés nativo.
It may there are not native english here. I live and was born in Tenerife. But i may serve you. The other day someone tells me I was a native english speaker.

Up ! up ! up !
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Re: Any native english speakers?
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2017, 05:22 AM »
It's a maths question!

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Re: Any native english speakers?
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2017, 06:24 AM »
So the first price will increase 18681 and the second 19863. So the total difference in price will be 18681 + 19863 = 38544

I don't see any error in the above calculations???

You sure about that?

If both increase then the difference between them is not going to be the summation of the increases.

2) The difference is £1.182
I'm presuming you mean one thousand etc., in which case it would have a comma:
£1,182

Regional difference Tomos, a period is used in some countries, prefer spaces myself as per ISO standard.
« Last Edit: September 16, 2017, 08:05 AM by 4wd »

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Re: Any native english speakers?
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2017, 11:06 AM »
2) The difference is £1.182
I'm presuming you mean one thousand etc., in which case it would have a comma:
£1,182

Regional difference Tomos, a period is used in some countries, prefer spaces myself as per ISO standard.

Yes, I live in one of those countries (where a period is used), but was presuming the answer should also be in 'native english'. I didnt realise though it was more complex than that. Using spaces is nice, especially for bigger numbers.