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Author Topic: Sometimes copied matters donot arrive in Clipboard Help and Spell  (Read 4812 times)

dcwul62

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Noticed that sometimes clips are not stored in CHS.

Frankly, I donot know why this is happening and consequently the matter will be un-solvable.
I have another clipboard manager also running, my old one
This works fine: clips arrive in both managers.

But sometimes the clips are in the other clipboard manager but not in Clipboard Help and Spell v.2.20.01

Hopefully CHS is still being developed, it got awfully quiet here.

Maybe, some time in future, the final version will be released and that issue will be solved  :-)

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Re: Sometimes copied matters donot arrive in Clipboard Help and Spell
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2013, 09:19:46 AM »
Is it a giant clip? CHS has a default max setting for text clips, which was only recently increased.

Check on the Capture Options tab.

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Re: Sometimes copied matters donot arrive in Clipboard Help and Spell
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2013, 09:21:06 AM »
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Hopefully CHS is still being developed, it got awfully quiet here.

I apologize.. I've been very slow working on my DC apps in the last month or so as I've been working on my Mewlo project -- but I do plan to switch to DC mode very soon and stay there until the end of the year.

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Re: Sometimes copied matters donot arrive in Clipboard Help and Spell
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2013, 09:21:49 AM »
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I have another clipboard manager also running, my old one

this could also be to blame -- sometimes clipboard tools misbehave and prevent others from capturing.

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Re: Sometimes copied matters donot arrive in Clipboard Help and Spell
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2013, 09:39:21 AM »
Thanks. Okay, I have increased it from 9999  to 999999 
Will keep an eye on.

This must the issue, I guess.

Could it be that after a big clipboard, which is rejected because it was too big, any other clipboards thereafter are also "rejected"?

I had a 40 line plain text document, nothing special, it did not get into CHS.
I re-tried just now (after reboot of pc), all okay.

Anyway, will keep an eye on it.

Thanks for the quick feedback.
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Re: Sometimes copied matters donot arrive in Clipboard Help and Spell
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2013, 09:40:40 AM »
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Could it be that after a big clipboard, which is rejected because it was too big, any other clipboards thereafter are also "rejected"?

No, that would indicate a different problem.

Assuming you have CHS set to make a sound when it copies a clip -- if you hear that it's not copying the clipboard when it should be, what you can try is right-click on CHS icon and select "Re-establish Clipboard Chain".  This will fix a problem caused by another program messing up the clipboard chain in windows and preventing CHS from getting notifications about new clipboard contents.

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Re: Sometimes copied matters donot arrive in Clipboard Help and Spell
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2013, 02:54:13 PM »
OS?
I ask because I've been having trouble with Win7 64bit for the last couple of months - often enough it happens that *nothing* is copied to the clipboard. I notice this because I've CHS set to make a sound (as mouser suggests above) but also because I mostly paste directly or very soon after copying.

I've been meaning to exit CHS and see if the problem still exists, but I'd miss it so much I keep putting it off :-[
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Re: Sometimes copied matters donot arrive in Clipboard Help and Spell
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2013, 11:20:45 AM »
Horst Schaeffer's ClipText can read text from a file and send it to the clipboard.  I once had a batch file that did that with several files, in such quick succession that neither ArsClip nor CHS could be relied upon to catch all the clips.  I had to put delays in between each call to ClipText to slow things down.  I think this is a Windows problem, not specifically CHS.

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Re: Sometimes copied matters donot arrive in Clipboard Help and Spell
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2013, 03:00:08 AM »
@tomos
maybe increased some buffersizes here and there ?
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Re: Sometimes copied matters donot arrive in Clipboard Help and Spell
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2013, 12:59:54 PM »
Hi,
sorry if write into this thread without creating a new one, but the issue is someway related. In my case, sometimes CHS starts acting so slow that after pressing CTRL C it will take up to 3 / 4 seconds before adknowledging the copied item. The "adknowledgment sound" arrives after this long interval, and if the main window is open, the clip will show in there at the same delayed time. Now, as I'm writing, it is in "slow mode" :) I just tried to exit and run it again, but still no luck. I have been using CHS only for a couple of days, so I haven't many more information to help narrowing down the issue. I'm using Win8 x64 and CHS portable (latest stable version, not the beta).

First update: I just realized this delay also occurs when pasting through CHS POP UP Menu (CTRL ALT Q) while it doesn't on simple CTRL V

Second update: last night I hibernated the machine, and this morning so far it looks like the delay has disappeared (everything back to normality). I didn't exit CHS, just hibernated and resumed my notebook. If today it happens again, I will try to see if it starts when doing something in particular.

I think i should also add that with the clipboard manager (a commercial one) I was using before discovering CHS, I had never encountered this behavior, just to rule out some general issues with my clipboard.

Glad to help further If I can.

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« Last Edit: October 24, 2013, 09:29:12 AM by kRs »

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Re: Sometimes copied matters donot arrive in Clipboard Help and Spell
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2013, 04:17:44 AM »

Indeed sometimes a bit slow, I donot have sound on, but I look at the button in the taskbar to see when it arrives in CHS.

Or, the button on the taskbar flashes, so I would think the clip arrived in CHS, but ... nothing, no clip.

Trying a couple of times.

Bottomline I have get the clip from ClipMate,  that is also running.

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Re: Sometimes copied matters donot arrive in Clipboard Help and Spell
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2013, 03:04:43 PM »
^ in order to say that this is a problem with CHS, you would have to see if the problem occurs without ClipMate running. See mouser's comment:

sometimes clipboard tools misbehave and prevent others from capturing.
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Re: Sometimes copied matters donot arrive in Clipboard Help and Spell
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2013, 05:22:53 AM »

Okay, maybe you are right.
I will disable CM and see what happens.

Thanks.

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Re: Sometimes copied matters donot arrive in Clipboard Help and Spell
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2013, 03:49:19 AM »
This time I'm writing a new post for the issue described above, since I found the cause. It's related to openoffice. I had an OpenOffice process stuck, visible only from task manager. I terminated the process and chs became responsive again. Using the option to re-connect clipboard had no effect in this case.

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Re: Sometimes copied matters donot arrive in Clipboard Help and Spell
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2013, 04:43:42 PM »
kRs, if you are having a problem with OpenOffice, can you make sure you are running the latest version of CHS?  There is a thread from a while ago about some crazy behavior of OpenOffice and how a recent CHS update was released to accomodate the issue.

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Re: Sometimes copied matters donot arrive in Clipboard Help and Spell
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2013, 03:41:32 PM »
a problem caused by another program messing up the clipboard chain in windows and preventing CHS from getting notifications about new clipboard contents.

Just for the record, Typing Assistant has sometimes conflicted with CHS, but not as badly as it has with ArsClip.  Typing Assistant is primarily a text autocompletion program, but it has an optional clipboard tracking feature.  The occasional conflict happens even when this feature is turned off.