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Mini-Reviews by Members / Virtual Window Managers
« on: February 16, 2006, 05:14 PM »
Cross-posted , edited and expanded from https://www.donation...12.msg16460#msg16460

As many of you know, I use and love PowerPro, a powerful little program which can do many many (almost too many) things one of which is Virtual Desktop Management. Dissatisfied with PP's VDM, and addicted to those little pager thingies you get with most Linux window managers, I searched for and tested many Windows versions of these sorts of apps and finally settled on one. In a recent forum post user m_s asked about Virtual Desktop applications, I gave my two cents and, to make a long story short, Mouser then tapped me to do a Mini-Review of the many I have used and tested. So it goes...
One caveat: I am stuck with NT4 and so some VDM apps were either somewhat limited or I could not run them. If anyone else has experience with those, feel free to add to this mini-review.

What is Virtual Desktop Management?
Basically, the Desktop we all know and love could sometimes use some "elbow room" but increasing the display resolution is not always the best solution. Virtual Desktop Managers increase the effective display space by (in a virtual sense) increasing the effective desktop area to a larger size and allowing you to display one area at a time via a 'Pager' (see below). Others will keep track of 'sets' of applications which are hidden or shown as different "desktops" are activated; again via pager. Both of these actions sometimes cause problems with apps that don't like to be hidden or moved off of the current display,so many VDM's have a 'compatibility' setting which will deal with those apps differently.
A common feature among VDM apps is something called a 'Pager'. This is most commonly a small window which displays a graphical representation, in miniature, of your desktops and the windows that appear there. This is how you switch desktops, drag windows to other desks, etc. This is usually called a Graphical Pager, quite different from those VDM's that have no pager thingie at all, but a row of buttons either on your desktop or in your tray. This will allow switching desktops, and perhaps some extra functions pertaining to moving windows, etc. This mini-review will focus mostly on those VDM apps that supply a graphical pager.

The net effect of all this is that you can have as many applications open as you want and still have a relatively clutter-free desktop, with some method of 'switching' to get to those desktops you want to see at any given time.

I'll judge each of these on their support of basic functions to be expected in any given VDM app, as well as any extras they may throw in.
Those features are:

-Number of virtual desktops.
Most commonly at least 4, most support more.

-Interface.
Type and quality of the pager itself. Is it skinnable? Draggable? Can I dock it? Autohide? Can I manually resize it? Can I drag the mini-windows? Does it switch desks when I click a task from another desk? (aka Active Window Switching)

-Type and quality of window representation in the graphical pager.
Some have mini-windows (small representations of the windows on each desktop) that show icons, text, or thumbnails. Some don't show mini-windows at all and either show a task list or a row of icons like the system tray. Are mini-windows draggable?

-Hotkey support and it's robustness thereof.
Most support desktop switching with hotkeys either directly (switch to desktop n) or relatively (switch forward/back/up/down) usually both, and some have extra hotkeys for even more functions.

-Mouse scrolling and wrapping.
Scrolling means bumping the mouse against a desktop edge automatically switches desks. Wrapping determines whether the mouse pointer stays where you have it or if it starts over at the opposite edge of the new desk. Some folks really like this stuff.

-'Sticky' window support.
A 'sticky' window is one that shows up on all desktops. Some VDM apps make this easy to control and configure. Some don't...

-Wallpaper support.
This is a nifty feature that allows different wallpaper on each desktop, but is usually memory-intensive

-Tray support.
Whether the app and it's functions can be accessed/controlled from the system tray. Some apps give desk switching functionality from the tray

-Compatibility
Whether it supports different window hide schemes for apps that don't play nice, or if there is an option to simply ignore such

-Configuration
Some are simple, some complex, some use a configuration dialog, some insist on you editing a configuration file. Is the help file helpful?

-Memory Usage
With at least one window open in each of 4 desktop panes and wallpaper functions unused.


JS Pager (Free)
http://www.skinnable..._dir=archive/jspager
(graciously hosted as orphanware at skinnables.org)
This is the one I use. Stable, fast, configurable, and (unlike many skinnables) drop-dead easy to skin for. I don't like skins, but this app is the rare exception because it is so easy. If you still don't like skins, it has a 'normal' mode which looks like a standard window but you can't collapse the window caption like many VDM's can. You must skin it to get a caption-less pager.
Features
-Up to 10 virtual desktops.
-Skinnable with non-skinned mode available. Skin editor available from configuration dialog for placing view and function buttons. Autohide support, dockable, only resizable when in 'normal' (non-skinned) mode. Active window switching.
-Mini window view with icons or text or both or none. Draggable with Right-button.
-Hotkey desktop switching.
-Mouse scrolling and wrapping.
-Very good 'Sticky' window support. Can be defined by window title or class via checkbox.
-Wallpaper. Settings can be written to registry.
-Tray Support. Options, desk switching, automatic window sticking.
-Compatibility good. Offended apps may be selected by Class.
-Configuration through tabbed dialog. Accessible through tray icon or config button. VERY sparse help file, but enough info is there to get going right away, and the 'out-of-the-box' config is good enough to use immediately.
-Memory usage:2-4 MB with skin.
Bugs, Cons, Gripes
-No longer developed, no source available.
-Saving files to Active Desktop while JSP is open may result in lost files.

VERN (Shareware)
http://www.oneguycoding.com/vern/
Stands for Virtual Environment Resource Navigator . LOTS of options. Almost too many (like my other favorite... :) ) but looking very promising. Even works across multiple monitors. Desktops can be password-protected.
Features
-Up to 1024 desktops. Referred to as Vern Cells.
-Interface good, no skin support. Resizable through mouse-dragging or by manual config in dialog. Limited definition of colors and borders, but can be made to easily look good. Window caption hideable. Support for docking and autohide, though combinations of the two tended to unpredictable behavior. Active window switching enabled by default.
-Mini window view nice, but only option for icons or not. Support for naming desks. Mini-windows draggable.
-Hotkeys for VERN hide/show, desktop switching.
-Mouse scrolling and wrapping.
-Sticky windows not convenient. Must right-click on mini-window and select 'Glue' so does not work with hidden windows. (like PowerPro bars :( )
-Wallpaper. Could not figure out how to work the wallpaper.
-Tray support. Full-featured options menu.
-Compatibility not supported.
-Configuration good. Many options available from tray menu. Sparse but well-written Help file. Some functions from config menu are better explained in Help.
-Memory Usage:4-5MB
Bugs, Cons, Gripes
-Needs better sticky window support. Manual selection would do it.
-Maximized windows attempt to maximize to entire space claimed by VERN.

Semik's Desktop (Free & Open Source)
http://www.tomasek.cz/stary_soft/sdesk/
Stable, small and simple. A former favorite. What made me switch was lack of active window switching. Doesn't apply if you have 'Hide other apps...' selected.
Features
-Up to 12 desktops. Can be named with On Screen Display of Desktop name.
-Interface bland, but effective. No skin support. Manual resizing in config dialog. Window caption hideable. Docking and Autohiding supported. Active window switching possible with key/mouse combination but was unpredictable. See notes in BugsConsGripes below about this.
-Mini Windows text only. Draggable.
-Hotkeys for switching desktops. Menu hotkey does not work.
-Mouse scrolling.
-Sticky windows good. Add Manually or by tricky key/mouse combination select.
-No Wallpaper support
-Tray support. Options, desk switch, window move menu.
-No Compatibility support.
-Configuration good, minimal. Although since the author is not a native english speaker, descriptions can be a little confusing. Nicely done help file in \docs folder.
-Memory Usage:3-4 MB
Bugs, Cons, Gripes
-Needs better active window switching, but then again, it looks like quite a few features were not implemented by the time development was stopped on this. It is Open Source so if someone wants to take a crack at it, I'll help with bugtesting...

Desktop Manager (Free)
http://www3.nf.sympa...co.ca/byronm/dm.html
If link doesn't come up, search for "DesktopManager.zip". Many freeware sites have it posted.
This is actually an odd little Minimal Shell/Launcher/VirtualDesktop thingamabob that I found a bit confusing, but someone may like it... I recommend putting 'Desktop.exe', 'Dskprefs.dll' and 'Taskbar.exe' (from 'Extras' directory) into the 'Modules' directory so when it starts up, you're not totally lost. Right click on your desktop for the start menu.
Features
-4-9 desktops
-Pager resizable, limited configuration. Current desk flashes annoyingly.
-Mini windows not draggable, but right clicking a pane will send the active window there.
-Hotkeys definable through 'Advanced Prefs' but I couldn't figure out how to get to that.
-Sticky windows- Hotkey sets active window as sticky or not.
-Wallpapers supported, you can also have different desktops at different screen resolutions and color schemes. Eek.
-Tray only accessible if you run the 'Taskbar.exe' module. Set resolution, preferences, hide pager.
-No Compatibility support. But, as this is intended as a replacement shell, so non-behaving apps might behave differently.
-Configuration VERY minimal.
-Memory Usage: As it varies with other modules loaded, shortcuts, etc. I'll say it goes from around 3MB itself and go up from there as you add stuff.
Bugs, Cons, Gripes
-Actually, this being more than just a VDM, I could not give it a full run-down of all it's abilities. As a VDM it certainly lacks, but if you're looking for something simple to build upon, this may be for you. The 'Outsider99 Shell' was a hack of DM, if I recall correctly...

Dexpot (Free)
http://www.dexpot.de/en/index2.html
Looks nice and full-featured while remaining small and easily configured. I could not properly review this app as it refused to install in english. This typical American monophone could not make hide nor hair of what the options were. Could someone tell me how to switch languages or post a reviw of your own if you spracken ze deutsch.

Virtual Dimension (Free & Open Source)
http://virt-dimension.sourceforge.net/
This one is nice in that it has visuals, but they are simply mini-icons in the pager windows rather than miniature representations of the windows on each desktop (as is most common...) and you can switch to any window on any desk by hitting the icon. See BugsConsGripes below as I need help testing the full functions of this one...
Features
-As far as I could tell, there was no limit to desktops except your memory
-Pager resizable, draggable, mouse resize only.
-No mini-windows, just icons of your currently running tasks at their respective desktops. Icons draggable.
-Lots of hotkeys definable. The most of any VDM I've tested.
-No sticky windows ( as far as I could tell)
---EDIT: See jgpaiva's reply below; apparently dragging an icon out of the pager makes it sticky. Thanks J!---
-Wallpapers support. In fact, I had to define the wallpapers to have any at all. VirDim took over my wallpaper function!
-Tray Support unknown. See BugsConsGripes below.
-Very good compatibility support. Configuration offers the options of Hide-Min-Move for window hiding functions with an exclude list.
-Memory Usage:4-5 MB
Bugs, Cons, Gripes
-Desktop switching was very slow.
-Some windows were sticky even though I tried all the hiding options and there is no manual method of defining sticky windows that I could play with.
-'All windows in Task List' did not work for me.
-NT4 Incompatibility: Some items in the tray menu and all items in the shell menu were blank. From prior experiences, I know this as a GDI incompatibility thing peculiar to NT4 so if someone could tell me what goes on in those menus, that would be great.

XDesk (Free and Shareware versions available)
http://www.xdesksoftware.com/xdesk.html
This one has a shareware version (ver.4.20) and a freeware (1.96) The shareware version looks mighty feature packed so I'm going to do a full review of the freeware version with a few notes added about the expanded capabilities of the shareware version. Fair 'nuff?
Features
-Up to 10 desktops
-No pager in Freeware version.
-No mini-windows either, for that matter.
-Hotkeys for window/desktop switching, some special functions
-Sticky windows support through configuration dialog.
-Wallpapers support very good.
-Tray support very good, different menus on different mouse-clicks of tray buttons.
-Compatibility support.
-Memory Usage:4-5 MB
Bugs, Cons, Gripes
-No pager. The shareware version has a pager called 'QuickView' accessed by hovering on the tray buttons. The mini-windows in it were not defined so I could not figure out which I was dragging.
-Confusing configuration dialog. Some dialogs accessed by different mouse/button combinations.
-In trying out the shareware version, I must say it has many more capabilities than the freeware, but that comes with another load of configuration baggage which is quite confusing to say the least. I rate this one 'Most Annoying VDM'. One nifty feature is each desktop can have not only it's own wallpaper, but it's own icons and icon positioning.

More Info

Wiki page about Virtual Desktops
http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Virtual_desktop
Some great information and links to some shareware VDM apps.

XDesk's Virtual Desktop Info page
http://www.xdesksoftware.com/vdesk.html
How nice of them to explain the topic as well as provide links to their competitors. Some links broken.

Other Options...

MS has a Virtual Desktop Powertoy but it's for XP only. Most alternative shells like Litestep, BlackBox 4 Windows, Geoshell, etc. have a Virtual Desktop plugin/module. PowerPro can manage quite a few desktops and access them with buttons, hotkeys, scripts, etc. although I didn't review it here because PowerPro is so much more than a VDM it would be like buying an automobile factory and crowing over the quality of the office windows... Besides, I don't really like PP's VDM support.
There's a lot more to say, just Google for "virtual desktop" "virtual window", you get the idea.
I realize this review is fairly minimal but it is, after all, a "Mini-Review", so feel free to ask questions, add reviews, gripe, whatever.
-hpp3

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Living Room / Spending too much time on hold?
« on: February 13, 2006, 12:14 PM »
Nothing I could say would do justice over what hasn't already been.
Go here:
http://gethuman.com/


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Living Room / P-P-P-Powerbook!
« on: February 07, 2006, 01:22 PM »
A wonderful story of how the innocent ebay sale of a Mac Powerbook turned into a tense tale of sticking it to a scammer...
http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/

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General Software Discussion / Most under-rated media player?
« on: January 26, 2006, 05:41 PM »
Okay, ignore the BIG SHINY BUTTONS and Self-Aggrandizement at FMod.org and go to Downloads, scroll down to FMod 3.75, download and unzip. Now, take fmod.dll from \api and FMod.exe from \samples\fmod and put them in the same directory. Open FMod.exe.
A very clean smallish media player that supports a whole bunch of formats without too many bells and whistles. Oh, and there's a bunch of stuff in there for the coder types to make their own player, or use the FMod sound engine for whatever. Just thought I'd mention it as this seemed to work on all my ragtag second-hand systems that had real problems throwing up WMP.

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Living Room / Electronic Paper is here...
« on: January 24, 2006, 12:47 PM »
Check it out.
http://products.sel.sony.com/pa/PRS/reader_features.html
and about Sony and the whole DRM thing, read here:
http://www.gizmodo.c...ny-reader-146864.php

Personally, I think this stuff will hit big-time when it will be an input medium as well. Write a note and it comes out formatted text in the font most resembling your handwriting, draw a picture and throw it up as your site's favicon, take margin notes in the books you're reading with the capability to turn them on or off or share them with friends. The possibilities would open up with a tactile interface medium. I've always thought tablet pc's would be great if you could use your hands instead of a mouse or pen. Just use your fingers to 'stretch' a window, or tap (double-tap? right-tap?) on screen elements instead of clicking them. Because of the nature of the business I am employed in, I can envision a day when architects will have a table-top sized sheet of this stuff jacked in to their AutoCad workstation, upload final drawings or revisions to the builders on-site who can then project them on a wall or floor. I will essentially be out of a job, (paper and all that) but I hope to be living/doing something completely different by then.

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General Software Discussion / Virtual Slide Rules
« on: January 20, 2006, 02:48 PM »
W00T!! and you thought Graphcalc was cool! (it is, but... slide rules... :-*)
http://www.antiquark.com/sliderule/sim/

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General Software Discussion / Best.Interface.Ever
« on: January 12, 2006, 02:52 PM »
OK, in keeping with the spirit of the "adjective.noun.ever" how about kudos to software that is actually encouraging and intuitive?
We could all learn from the mistakes in "Worst.interface.ever" but what about the white hats? What are the common elements that make an app easy and intuitive, yet powerful at the same time. I'm sure many of them have been covered at flow|state but I want to know what you guys think.
Here's one that won't make it to flow|state, but is an example of UI genius nonetheless and analysis may prove fruitful:
The perfect example of process control.

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Living Room / Looking for a few good puns
« on: November 15, 2005, 06:14 PM »
I'm talking real groaners to torture my co-workers with. No blonde jokes or the like. I've heard that the "getting" of a pun is a sign of above-average intelligence and since I assume most of you fellows and fellowettes are of that ilk, Puns Ahoy!! May I begin?...

A piece of rope walks into a bar and orders a beer. The bartender gives him a snide look and says "We don't serve your kind here!" and tosses him out the door. The piece of rope gets up, dusts himself off and walks back in, cheerfully ordering a beer. The bartender again tosses him out with the same remark. This time, the piece of rope gets up, doubles himself into a loop-and-a-half and frizzes out his hair before walking back into the bar and again ordering a beer. The bartender gives him another look of disdain and says "Hey, aren't you the piece of rope I just kicked out of here twice?". "No sir," replies the rope, "I'm afraid not!"

 ;D

Get it?
A frayed knot!! LOL!!


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General Software Discussion / Anybody use Lua?
« on: November 01, 2005, 06:36 PM »
http://www.lua.org/
Looks kinda nifty, I've been hearing of a lot of folks using it as an embedded script engine 'specially for games. But apparently you can use it for stand-alone scripting and a brief look at LuaForge seems there's API wrappers and Gui libraries, etc. And what's this about being able to use C functions and call dlls? Hmmm... downloading the manual now. Any thoughts? How easy is it to get your head around for scripting? Can you compile a script ? (Oop.. answered that one, apparently the binary distro comes with luac.exe which will compile your script.)

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Post New Requests Here / IDEA: Png Painter
« on: October 28, 2005, 12:44 PM »
Ok, let me explain. I am intending this for skinnable button images and etc. in Litestep and other skinnable thingummys, but it'd also work great for webpage graphics or graphic whatevers in general. The first problem is, I am on NT4 which can't handle png alpha channel natively, so I use an Autohotkey script to send a png and a background color to rpng.exe which paints a png on top of my intended background color with alpha-blend, Alt-PrintScreen to capture the window, and open in MSpaint or Ultimate Paint ('cause it handles png's and it's got a funky interface) to snip the graphic out and convert to png bmp or ico from there. Cumbersome to say the least.
Here's the Challenge: to shorten this process.
Sources and binaries for rpng are available at http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/book/sources.html
Hack the source or code your own which will do pretty much the same as rpng.exe But...
send output to file (png,bmp,jpg,etc.) or graphics editor (too many to list)
I've tried simply piping rpng.exe output to a file (rpng.exe > foo.bmp) but to no avail. rpng is intended only as an example thingamabob for coders and it appears they meant it.... Perhaps someone has an idea on how Autohotkey or some similar script prog can simply wait for the window to open and automagically cut out the contents of the window and save it rather than copying a picture of the entire window as Alt-PrintScreen does now.

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General Software Discussion / Rebirth now free
« on: September 15, 2005, 11:43 AM »
For those of you who were (not sure if any one REALLY is now) into the techno/industrial scene a few years back, you probably had this or wanted it very badly. Since Propellerheads sold out, they've dropped ReBirth but since it still WORKS for what it was intended, here it is fo' free:
http://www.rebirthmuseum.com/

This is what I spent a lot of time trying to emulate with freeware trackers, samplers, wave editors, etc. 'back in the day'. I relive those heady days of yesteryear every now and again at http://www.soundtrackers.de. Archive of free/share ware music and audio apps from before a thousand coders started doing Zip apps :)

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Living Room / Programming in general...
« on: August 11, 2005, 04:13 PM »
So, I was just wondering...
I assume most of the folks haunting this board are either curious about what 'programmers' do, have done a little here and there and some are real 'Coders'. So, on the topic of programming in general, where's the best starting-place for beginners? What's free and what costs a lot and what's the heck difference anyway? How does scripting differ from interpreted? What's high level vs. low? What are some folks' experience with say, Delphi vs. Java? And fer Peet's sake, what in a pig's eye is .NET?? We've all seen by now what can be done with a fairly full-featured scripting language, but whats below the surface that might make C++ or some other more in-depth tool any more rewarding? And why the snobbery? Is Assembly really all that hard?
I'm not really asking these for my own curiosity, just that the thread on scripting utilities started by zridling took on a tangent that just left me wondering at the fact that we have a bunch of capable coders hanging around with a bunch of curious potential acolytes waiting for the invitation through the blue scr... erm, door. Is there a website or forum on another board where these and related questions are answered and discussed, or can something be set up here at DonationCoder? (I have no idea how much forum bandwidth costs, and no use being redundant...) Just wondering...

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Mini-Reviews by Members / PowerPro
« on: June 29, 2005, 04:00 PM »
Powerpro 4.3
http://powerpro.webeddie.com/
------------------
(from the website...)
PowerPro lets you take control of how you use Windows 95/98/NT/2000/XP. Run commands and configure your system any way you want.

PowerPro gives you a compact and powerful launch bar, menu, and tray icon facility. But this is just the start. With a little experimenting with its configuration, you'll find that you can use PowerPro to change the way you work with your system. The source of its power is the way PowerPro integrates three capabilities:

    * Running commands: Tool bars, tray icons, hot keys, mouse actions, menus, timer, scheduler.
    * Controlling other program's windows: Close, minimize, maximize, roll-up to caption, tray minimize, position.
    * Providing utility functions: Send keystrokes to programs, run commands when windows first open, virtual desktops, clipboard extender, keyboard macros, shutdown, show all folder files in a menu, sounds, wallpaper, and screensaver activation and randomization.

That said, I must say PowerPro is the most powerful tool I have ever installed on a Windows box. I am always finding new ways to make it do something useful. Firefox changed the way I surf, Xplorer2 changed the way I file, but Powerpro changed the way I work with, play with and use Windows. Freeware.
Since this is a mini-review, 'nuff said
-Edvard

<edit>
I forgot, since this is a review, I should include some caveats (not necessarily bugs)
*transparency functions and some plugins are 2K/XP only.
*because this little program does so much, the configuration gui is quite complex.
*some apps do not behave well when using virtual desktops (although this is true for most virtual desktop progs)
*some functions have unexpected side effects, as they override windows function for the same mouse-click/hotkey. For example:
--enabling "right click drag" is nice to be able to drag a window from any part of the window, but it overrides windows' context drag.
--configuring a menu to pop up on right-clicking the desktop (one of the nice things many alternative shells do...) overrides windows context menu on icons unless the icon is left-click selected first.
*the forum is a yahoo! group (that's not necessarily bad but I would prefer not...)


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Unfinished Requests / IDEA: extra window functions
« on: June 27, 2005, 12:43 PM »
You know when you right click the button of a running task or the little titlebar icon and you get a dropdown that says Restore, Move, Size, etc? I want to add functions to that menu, specifically Move to Center (for those annoying times when I get a window half-off the *$%@#&% screen, and 'Move' doesn't %&$#@ work, BTW) but perhaps add calls to those third-party programs that do roll-up or vertical/horizontal maximize and other fancy window tricks. I realize that there probably is a prog that does this but I've not been able to find it.

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