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Last post Author Topic: PC Upgrade - still possible to reuse old components?  (Read 14069 times)

Lashiec

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Re: PC Upgrade - still possible to reuse old components?
« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2007, 09:54:30 AM »
Me too, my mainboard is using a nForce 570 SLI chipset, and it performs wonderfully, but giving lanux conditions, this is the best he can get without investing 200$ in that Asus mainboard. VIA gave me good results in the past, they're not up to the level of performance of nVidia chipsets, but they do a decent job. Some blame could be put onto Intel and AMD, particularly Intel, which VIA accused time ago of being bastards when it came to provide license renewal for they can produce chipsets for the Core 2 Duo.

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Re: PC Upgrade - still possible to reuse old components?
« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2007, 11:01:42 AM »
if given a choice, i too would not be opting for some obscure chipsets but i'm hoping to get lucky on this one.. :) anyway, i'm also searching for ASRock mainboards with nVidia chipset..

btw, what is the difference between 20-pin & 24-pin ATX power connectors?


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Re: PC Upgrade - still possible to reuse old components?
« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2007, 11:13:53 AM »
One has 20 pins in the connector and the other 24 ;D

OK, enough jokes. The 24-pin connector is the most current specification, ATX v2.2. The extra 4 pins were added to give enough power for the PCI-Express slot, for graphic cards that lack the 6-pin PCI-e connector. In "older" motherboards, there used to be an extra 4-pin connector, that was rectangular, not squared like the one used for the ATX extra connector (the little one located near the purple printer port in the ASRock mainboard)

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Re: PC Upgrade - still possible to reuse old components?
« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2007, 11:31:49 AM »
One has 20 pins in the connector and the other 24 ;D

:) ok, since the ASRock AM2V890 has only 20-pins, do i have to be selective about the graphic card that i buy so that it is not under-powered?


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Re: PC Upgrade - still possible to reuse old components?
« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2007, 12:17:39 PM »
My friend, your question really puzzled me. It seems that you don't have to worry, apparently that connector is used when you're running a SLI combo, and was used to power high-end AGP cards (not that it's used here) as well.

Anyway, if you buy a somewhat powerful card, most need a 6-pin PCI-e connector, so the lack of that connector is out of question.

Ah, the whole thing is complicated ;D

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Re: PC Upgrade - still possible to reuse old components?
« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2007, 01:53:43 PM »
I think it is safe to say that if it has a PCIe slot and a 20 pin ATX connector there shouldn't be a problem. You aren't going for a heavy duty graphics card anyway - and SLI systems have to support 2 of them - which is why they need extra power (on my mobo I have a 24 pin connector and an extra 4 pin molex if I run 2 PCIe cards)

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Re: PC Upgrade - still possible to reuse old components?
« Reply #31 on: August 29, 2007, 07:58:38 PM »
thanks for the clarifications.. i was reading another review & the reviewer mentioned about instability caused by lower voltage but apparently there is a BIOS fix. and this got me thinking, albeit in the wrong direction.. :)

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Re: PC Upgrade - still possible to reuse old components?
« Reply #32 on: August 29, 2007, 11:05:08 PM »
another comments request, how good are these cards?

• ASUS GF 8500GT (256MB/DDR2/128bit)
• Gigabyte 7300GT Silent-Pipe (256MB/DDR2/128bit)
• Winfast 8500GT (256MB/DDR2/128bit)

couldn't find a proper review.. too cheap, i guess for the manufacturer to find a reviewer.. :)

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Re: PC Upgrade - still possible to reuse old components?
« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2007, 10:24:13 AM »
The ASUS card head on. It's the best of the three, better than the Leadtek because of the company, and better than the Gigabyte because it's DirectX10 compliant and does not sport the infamous "Turbo Cache". Both are silent so... the only thing you're missing with the Asus is the "Xpand Rally" game that comes with the Gigabyte, but don't worry, I have a copy if you wish :)

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Re: PC Upgrade - still possible to reuse old components?
« Reply #34 on: September 01, 2007, 03:09:45 PM »
thanks for the heads-up, Lashiec.. :Thmbsup: tomorrow is the big day, wish me luck.. :)

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Re: PC Upgrade - still possible to reuse old components?
« Reply #35 on: September 01, 2007, 10:30:54 PM »
I've just read your comment about Gothic 3 on tinjaw's giveaway post, and so I just logged to ask something: are you planning to use this new computer with the card I recommended you to play Gothic 3?

(No, you aren't, no, you aren't, no...)

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Re: PC Upgrade - still possible to reuse old components?
« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2007, 10:41:46 PM »
lol, don't worry i'm not going to.. but just curious, wouldn't the ASUS card hold up against G3?

Gothic 3 is on another PC that has a NX 7600GT (256MB DDR3).. :) that is a mid-range card but performs quite admirably on a 'High' settings in G3.. :)

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Re: PC Upgrade - still possible to reuse old components?
« Reply #37 on: September 01, 2007, 10:48:30 PM »
Phew! I thought you were upgrading your main computer and so I was fearing I recommended you such card. I doubt so, it'll run but I suspect it won't be as capable as your 7600, just starting by the memory (DDRD2 vs. DDR3, faster the latter), and then staring at cold numbers (memory bandwidth and fill rate) shows that the 7600 beats the 8500 by a x2 factor. But well, you can test it yourself when you assemble the computer ;)

(On a side note: Hooray! 500 posts!)

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Re: PC Upgrade - still possible to reuse old components?
« Reply #38 on: September 01, 2007, 11:03:13 PM »
i would be happy if the ASUS card is able to display Dora's and Elmo's FMV without hitches.. ;)

(on a side-note: congrats! also, don't forget to make a post here too..)

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Re: PC Upgrade - still possible to reuse old components?
« Reply #39 on: September 02, 2007, 10:46:42 AM »
Dammit! I didn't take a shot! :wallbash:

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Re: PC Upgrade - still possible to reuse old components?
« Reply #40 on: September 02, 2007, 07:16:13 PM »
Dammit! I didn't take a shot! :wallbash:
Don't worry, try again at your 600th post.. :)