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Last post Author Topic: Congratz to the US Military Forces!  (Read 21954 times)

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Congratz to the US Military Forces!
« on: May 01, 2011, 10:48:52 PM »
Well Done Lads...Well Done  :D

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Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces!
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2011, 11:00:09 PM »
Will be very interesting to read about the details of the operation in the coming weeks/months/years.

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Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces!
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2011, 11:05:43 PM »
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Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces!
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2011, 11:22:56 PM »
Ahhh... Got it...

http://www.guardian....bin-laden-dead-obama

Screenshot - 2011-05-02 , 2_19_32 PM.pngCongratz to the US Military Forces!

http://english.aljaz...011522132275789.html

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Osama bin Laden, the leader of al-Qaeda, is dead.

US president Barack Obama said bin Laden, the most-wanted fugitive on the US list, has been killed on Sunday in a US operation in the Pakistani city of Abbottabad, about 150km north of Islamabad.

"Tonight, I can report to the people of the United States and the world, the United States had carried an operation that has killed Osama Bin Laden, a terrorist responsible for killing thousands of innocent people," Obama said in a statement.

"Today, at my direction, the United States carried out that operation... they killed Osama Bin Laden and took custody of his body.

"The death of Bin Laden marks the most significant achievement to date against Al Qaeda.

"We must also reaffirm that United states is not and will never be at war against Islam. Bin Laden was not a Muslim leader, in fact, he slaughtered many Muslims," Obama said.
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Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces!
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2011, 12:18:31 AM »
Hey... Just wondering... But did Osama Bin Laden have an iPhone by any chance? :P
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Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces!
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2011, 12:19:27 AM »
It's a great symbolic victory, but it'd be great if we could just declare victory and come home from three wars we're borrowing money to fund. We've already been warned: "Osama's number two [Egyptian] guy is still out there!" (Didn't we kill that #2 guy about a thousand times over by now?) Oy.

At the least, it should guarantee Obama's reelection you figure.

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Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces!
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2011, 12:52:55 AM »
Hey... Just wondering... But did Osama Bin Laden have an iPhone by any chance? :P

Steve Jobs for President!   ;D

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Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces!
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2011, 01:07:18 AM »
so they created sock puppet laden and now killed it...tsk tsk.

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Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces!
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2011, 02:53:20 AM »
I couldn't help myself...

Submitted for your amusement:

Osama Bin Laden Dead Thanks to iPhone Tracking

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Highly reliable sources (the voices in my head) are reporting that the death of Osama Bin Laden is entirely thanks to him owning an iPhone, allowing his location to be tracked.

iPhoneTrackingWorks.jpgCongratz to the US Military Forces!
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« Last Edit: May 02, 2011, 03:04:00 AM by Renegade »

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Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces!
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2011, 03:12:21 AM »
I couldn't help myself...

Submitted for your amusement:

Osama Bin Laden Dead Thanks to iPhone Tracking

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Highly reliable sources (the voices in my head) are reporting that the death of Osama Bin Laden is entirely thanks to him owning an iPhone, allowing his location to be tracked.
(see attachment in previous post)

Heheh. That's the most appropriate news item I've seen so far.

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Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces!
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2011, 03:58:18 AM »
US president Barack Obama said bin Laden, the most-wanted fugitive on the US list, has been killed on Sunday in a US operation in the Pakistani city of Abbottabad, about 150km north of Islamabad.
Geez, haven't had enough coffee today - read that as "US president Barack Osama bin Laden" >_<

Abbottabad - "abort a bad [guy]", anyone?

Will be interesting to see what happens now. I have no illusions that Al Qaeda will fall to pieces because guy is gone, I'm thinking more in the lines of which terrorist actions we'll see and where.
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Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces!
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2011, 04:23:35 AM »
Twitter is really delivering today  :D
https://twitter.com/...us/64975980493668352

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Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces!
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2011, 04:56:11 AM »
Well Done Lads...Well Done  :D

Pics or it didn't happen. Some say the guy has apparently been dead for years. Pretty please, let's leave all politics off DC, because it's only downhill from there!

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Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces!
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2011, 05:11:45 AM »
I, for one, do not think that killing people is a good thing.

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Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces!
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2011, 05:14:08 AM »
I'll cheer if the military can handle the upcoming increasing terrorism action. Killing the guy is not the end, but the beginning of a new war IMHO. So +1 from me for fooders comment.

And the circumstances are still unclear. If he died in a fight while he shoots at the GIs, okay! But if they executed him without trial, its murder...nevertheless what he did (or we think he had done). But i don't understand the thinking of people anyway that operate Guantanamo and claim it's in the name of justice.

Nevertheless, IF he was guilty and IF he is really dead now and IF he died in a fair combat and IF we don't face another thousands of thousands dead bodies in near future died in increased revenge driven terrorism action THEN i'll join the choir of cheers for the good job done.

Sorry that i mixed some bitter tears in the delirium of joy of most of you but thats how i think *shrug*

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This was my one and only comment on this topic and i think i will not follow this thread further, as i don't think DC is the right place for politic discussion.
« Last Edit: May 02, 2011, 05:19:42 AM by JoTo »

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Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces!
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2011, 05:49:33 AM »
That's assuming they got the right guy - a quick burial at sea seems a bit fishy to me (sorry for he pun).

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Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces!
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2011, 06:38:50 AM »
That's assuming they got the right guy - a quick burial at sea seems a bit fishy to me (sorry for he pun).

Agreed, however hoisting a body on a petard for a parade through town is rather frowned on these days - And an autopsy was hardly necessary - So there wasn't much need for the carcas going forward...


Also +1 with f0dder, cutting the head off this snake, will only result in more snakes.

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Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces!
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2011, 06:41:01 AM »
Might've been smart having the body buried on Muslim ground - just saying.
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Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces!
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2011, 07:10:24 AM »
I, for one, do not think that killing people is a good thing.

<sarcasm>It's a travesty if one of "us" gets killed, and justice when "we" kill one of "them". </sarcasm>

The level of hypocrisy in some places is, well... I leave that alone.
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Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces!
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2011, 07:26:40 AM »
That's assuming they got the right guy - a quick burial at sea seems a bit fishy to me (sorry for he pun).

They did DNA testing apparently.

I, for one, do not think that killing people is a good thing.

And I'll counter this by saying that sometimes people just need killing...

See this timeline of his recordings.  Not someone who was repentant about what he had done... and not someone who was going to stop organizing operations to kill others.

<sarcasm>It's a travesty if one of "us" gets killed, and justice when "we" kill one of "them". </sarcasm>

The level of hypocrisy in some places is, well... I leave that alone.

How about 2,977 of "us" to 1 of "them"?

Might've been smart having the body buried on Muslim ground - just saying.
And how do you go about finding an legitimized group that would be willing to host such a burial?

And on a lighter note...
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Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces!
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2011, 07:30:38 AM »
Might've been smart having the body buried on Muslim ground - just saying.
I am sure that the burial at sea was to prevent his final resting place becoming a holy pilgrimage site. We don't want to help him become more of a martyr.

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I, for one, do not think that killing people is a good thing.
I hope you are kidding, right? This guy is responsible for the deaths of thousands and thousands. We kill one to prevent thousands more being killed. I'm confident that if we could have simply captured him and brought him back then we would have. The reports I read is that he went down "resisting".

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Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces!
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2011, 07:34:00 AM »
Might've been smart having the body buried on Muslim ground - just saying.
I am sure that the burial at sea was to prevent his final resting place becoming a holy pilgrimage site. We don't want to help him become more of a martyr.
Good point - but perhaps letting them have his corpse could help put a dampener on the supporting Muslims? Oh well, they're probably going to be royally pissed anyway.

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I, for one, do not think that killing people is a good thing.
I hope you are kidding, right? This guy is responsible for the deaths of thousands and thousands. We kill one to prevent thousands more being killed. I'm confident that if we could have simply captured him and brought him back then we would have. The reports I read is that he went down "resisting".
They started!"

...besides, bin Laden isn't exactly the only casualty on their side - wonder who has lost most civilians? :-\
(there is IMHO a big difference between collateral damage and deliberately targeting civilians, though)
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Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces!
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2011, 07:42:44 AM »
How about 2,977 of "us" to 1 of "them"?

Sorry this is my last comment on this but... it isn't 3000 to 1, it is 3000 to untold numbers (probably more than 100000) of innocents in Iraq and Afghanistan. OK bin Laden deserved what he got but aren't the US and UK supposed to be civilised countries that say they want to show the way to a better future? If so how do street celebrations help? Relief that he is no longer part of the problem yes - celebration over murder (not justice) is no way forward. And don't forget the cost paid by all those other civilians caught in the middle.

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Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces!
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2011, 07:45:20 AM »
And I'll counter this by saying that sometimes people just need killing...


True enough.



<sarcasm>It's a travesty if one of "us" gets killed, and justice when "we" kill one of "them". </sarcasm>

The level of hypocrisy in some places is, well... I leave that alone.

How about 2,977 of "us" to 1 of "them"?



I probably didn't phrase that well.

Compare pictures of people rejoicing after 9/11 and the recent pictures of people doing the same thing over Osama. It's the same thing - people screaming for blood.

Either way, it's pretty sad to see people getting all hard & wet over other people dying.

I can't claim to be an angel though. There are people out there that I think would be better off dead, and people that I think would make the world a better place if they died.

I suppose it seems to be a fine line between rejoicing over someone's death, and being glad for what their death represents.
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Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces!
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2011, 08:05:12 AM »
Moving over to Libya for a moment:

From a purely realpolitik perspective, I think there's a risk of a very dangerous precedent being set here.

Up until now, It's been considered a very bad idea to make the leader of a country a "kill target" unless a war has been declared. Runs a little too close to establishing assassination of foreign leaders as part a nation's diplomatic policy.

Right now, it may seem like whacking a country's ruler is a practical and expedient measure. But that's only because it's mainly the bigger powers that feel they can employ such measures with impunity.

Unfortunately, these things seem to have a way of filtering down to the lowest political stratas.

Just my 2ยข


And that's about all I have to say - so this will be my only comment on this thread.
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