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I'm currently migrating from PostBox to The Bat so I would be glad to get that key...


Great, sending you a PM.

I won a key to "The Bat" professional in the fundraiser drawing last month. However after using the 30 days of free trial I've decided I just don't get along with it and I'm going back to Claws Mail.

I'd be happy to forward the key that I was given to another DCer (but do try the trial first to make sure it's for you!)


I did see this myself (I checked via an API I use which snapshots websites without you needing to actually visit them)
-Stephen66515 (April 29, 2018, 04:47 PM)

Wow, my precaution was to move my hand nearer to the mute button on my keyboard before I clicked...

I know Hammerhead said they won't be back, but the website is (at the moment) completely safe and it's a great picture - hint: check out the background.

General Software Discussion / Re: The Bat! advice needed
« on: April 18, 2018, 11:48 AM »
Yes, but (at least according to their chart) it only works on POP3 accounts. I'm all IMAP.

General Software Discussion / Re: The Bat! advice needed
« on: April 18, 2018, 11:38 AM »
There's no (free) spam filter available either. Hmph.

I did figure out that if I display HTML by default (instead of Text first, with HTML available in a tab) I consistently get the "show images" button, so that must just be a bug. However there's no way to download images "just for this message" - I have to whitelist the source.

I got my key today, but haven't entered it yet. I suppose I should post some of these questions over at their support forum.


General Software Discussion / The Bat! advice needed
« on: April 15, 2018, 07:40 AM »
Perhaps I should post this at TheBat! forums but I know we have some active users here so I thought I'd try here first. I received "The Bat!" email client in the April 2018 giveaway (100% happiness!) and I've been using the trial while I wait (and wait...) for my key to be delivered. I'm switching from years of using Claws Mail, and I had a couple questions that maybe someone can help me with.

First, I wonder if there's a way to make IMAP access be "asynchronous" ... I'll explain what I mean. In Claws Mail, when I delete a message it is marked for deletion (shown by a lighter font in the message list), when I move a message it is marked with an arrow, when I mark as spam it gets both. Then when I've marked all the actions I intend to take I hit a button "Execute" and all the moves are made. There is no need for a "Compact" option. In The Bat! (must I always type this exclamation mark?) deleted items are instantly gone, but I keep finding when I visit my webmail page from another computer, for example, that the messages are still there, just marked with strikethrough until I hit "compact". So is there a way to get things the way I'm used to, or can you suggest your workflow for IMAP mail deletion/compaction (i.e. what combination of checkboxes have you chosen in the mail options pages)?

Also, and this might be related, in Claws mail (as I have it configured) highlighting a message (i.e. by deleting the one above, or by using arrow keys on the message list) does not load it automatically - only once the Enter key is pressed or the message clicked on directly is it loaded in the preview pane. Can I do that in The Bat!?

Second, I'm finding the IE-based HTML renderer much better than the built-in one, especially in terms of layout, but there seems to be no way to see the destination of a link. The status bar shows nothing, and while the built-in HTML viewer shows link destinations in a pop-up tooltip, there is no such thing in the IE viewer. This is such a huge security flaw that I won't even consider clicking on a link... am I missing a simple checkbox somewhere to get this information, preferably in a status bar?

I'm still getting my head around the new system so there may be more things I need to ask but these are two that are bugging me for the moment. Thanks in advance!



A couple more questions: First, the "show images" button for the HTML message preview pane appears inconsistently. How can I get that button to always appear?

Second, I'm having trouble getting filtering to work the way I want. As an example, I'd like messages in my "Junk" folder to be deleted after a month. I can either create a filter to do this or set a age limit in the folder settings. But when are filters triggered for existing messages? It seems they only fire when a message is downloaded, or read. And if I set an age limit, the rules can apparently be set run "on exit" which I assume means when exiting the program.... but I never exit the program. My last email client would sit in my taskbar for months until a windows 10 update finally killed it. Claws mail ran filter rules whenever I opened a folder.

Living Room / Re: Thread on 3d Printing Cody Model
« on: April 07, 2018, 06:44 AM »
I printed out the 8"x8"x8" baby cody model.

How long did it take? And how much filament?

Living Room / Re: Show us the View Outside Your Window
« on: April 04, 2018, 07:48 AM »
April 4 and the view outside my window is snow snow snow today. But here's one from a few months ago that I just downloaded from our game camera:
(This should be an animated .gif, hopefully it works...)

Couldn't participate in this thread until today. Introducing our 4 new Buff Orpington chicks, Lady, BonBon, Sally, and Orckle. (Not sure the spelling has been pinned down on the last one yet).

I knew you'd like it :) I had the same experience after trying more organic programs (blender) and more supposedly-precise ones (sketchup). Neither category was compatible with my brain. But OpenSCAD just makes sense! Lately I've been printing parts for my father-in-law's recumbent bicycle. He needed a part with a radius to match that pipe and a hole just right there, and in about 10 minutes I had a design done. While there are certainly applications for which it is unsuited (c.f. my attempt at modelling Cody), for anything which is basically geometric, or for anything which requires precise dimensions, the use of a language rather than a gui is a huge asset.

Edit to add: I won at the 3d-printing game when I used OpenSCAD to model, and then successfully printed, a new heel-tip for one of my wife's high-heel shoes. Other models I've made which might be useful to others include a model-rocket launch-rod cap, and a little platform to mount a circuit board to a rod.


Living Room / Re: Gadget WEEKENDS
« on: March 31, 2018, 06:15 AM »
I bought a surprisingly-inexpensive intervalometer for my DSLR.
Use HD, full screen or you can't see the stars!

Living Room / Re: Thread on 3d Printing Cody Model
« on: March 30, 2018, 08:37 PM »
I will soon try painting one of the baby codys.

You should try acetone-fuming with one of the codys. It smooths out all the ridges and makes it much easier to paint. Lots of info online; I did it with a widemouth mason jar on my heated bed and a little lower-able platform made of stiff electrical wire.

Edit: this is for ABS. good link here:

Ugh I hate updating Drupal. It's so fraught... after backing up you're supposed to:
Delete all files except the Sites folder and any files such as ".htaccess" and "robots.txt" that have been customized. (This assumes any contributed modules, custom themes etc. That you use are in the sites directory)

I cringe when I hit that delete key.

Did it last night though since it seems to be a very serious vulnerability.

Living Room / Re: Thread on 3d Printing Cody Model
« on: March 30, 2018, 07:12 AM »
Here, use this one instead. I got rid of all the "center=true" so things grow "up" instead of "out". Should make dimensions easier to play with.

Living Room / Re: Thread on 3d Printing Cody Model
« on: March 30, 2018, 06:51 AM »
I think I will need your help making the "rod".

You can do it! Look at the bottom of the file; I've commented out a cylinder "//simple platform for Cody".
translate([0,0,2]){cylinder (r=20,h=3,center=true);}
First change r and h - note that the height expands from the middle so it sticks out the bottom.
translate([0,0,2]){cylinder (r=2,h=30,center=true);}
Then change the "z" value in the translate function to slide it upward. You can move it up by half the height, plus half the thickness of the cylinder. Overlap is OK.
translate([0,0,17]){cylinder (r=2,h=30,center=true);}

Living Room / Re: Thread on 3d Printing Cody Model
« on: March 30, 2018, 06:28 AM »
The nice thing is everything you suggest (mostly) is really easy. Comment out the cody, change the height of the column, etc.

I haven't tried it but I think OpenSCAD can import an stl - you may be able to do this in one print.

I changed the font in the latest version, from Arial Black to Liberation Mono ( and Liberation Sans (other text).

I normally go through and fix indenting and comment things before I do this :) but here's the source - I included the font needed for the edge; fonts for the top will need to be on your system (OpenSCAD has a font list under the help menu to be sure).

When you're using OpenSCAD it shows a "preview" but to print it you need to do a "render" (F6 or a toolbar button) which is pretty slow with the fonts. Then you can export an STL.

Helpful tip for OpenSCAD, if you put a "#" at the beginning of a line or object then it's highlighted in red, so you can see what you're editing.

Living Room / Re: Thread on 3d Printing Cody Model
« on: March 29, 2018, 09:53 PM »
OK, this one is thinner (5mm) but just as large, has a gear-looking thing for the pedestal, and has a chunkier, simpler cody on the bottom. I switched the font but no matter what I do that "e" in "coder" is high. Since that text won't change maybe I'll make it in Inkscape and bring it over as a dxf. It's also not manifold, and I don't know why, but it sliced fine as far as I can tell.

Living Room / Re: Thread on 3d Printing Cody Model
« on: March 29, 2018, 02:46 PM »
"currency" symbol:

Living Room / Re: Thread on 3d Printing Cody Model
« on: March 29, 2018, 02:40 PM »
I think this is what you meant:
I had the plain center to serve as a base for Cody (edit: with the hex socket for some sort of peg); I'm not sure how it'll look with him sitting on the $ sign. Also, the symbol is pretty US-specific. Maybe kill two birds by using the "currency" symbol i.e. "ยค" instead. I spun the text around as well.

I need a test print to see how these small bits look. Currently the size of the coin is 76mm, about 3 inches.

Living Room / Re: Thread on 3d Printing Cody Model
« on: March 29, 2018, 11:23 AM »
Here's what I'm working on. I'm happy to receive creative direction!

Living Room / Re: Thread on 3d Printing Cody Model
« on: March 28, 2018, 01:50 PM »
I found a better library to use:

Updates as they become available :)

Living Room / Re: Thread on 3d Printing Cody Model
« on: March 28, 2018, 06:47 AM »
Text on the bottom/sides is easy to design and render, less easy to print.
the write.scad library is nice because it does curved text for tops and sides of cylinders, but it has a weird format for fonts and doesn't look like it kerns correctly.

Living Room / Re: Thread on 3d Printing Cody Model
« on: March 27, 2018, 03:22 PM »
Sure, I can look at that. Could you maybe draw a sketch of what you're thinking?

Edit: Also is there an "official" DC font?

Living Room / Re: Thread on 3d Printing Cody Model
« on: February 17, 2018, 12:23 PM »
This is hard!

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