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Last post Author Topic: Latest FARR v2.00.140 ALPHA PREVIEW Release - Aug 15, 2007  (Read 345771 times)

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Re: FARR v2.00.01 ALPHA PREVIEW Release
« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2006, 10:26:19 PM »
\\ has to be at end to mean only show folders
if its in the middle it means match any intervening folder (in other words a\\c will match path a\b\c but not a\b1\b2\c)

ok im not sure i can make enter copy path ill have to think about it, BUT
at the least i can let you configure copy path as one of the actions available in options to associate with ctrl+# or alt+ctrl+#, etc.

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Re: FARR v2.00.01 ALPHA PREVIEW Release
« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2006, 10:33:36 PM »
ok, i get it now.. btw, the ability to configure the copy path action is very good..

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Re: FARR v2.00.01 ALPHA PREVIEW Release
« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2006, 11:12:23 PM »
thanks for the great suggestions JennyB, i will implement/fix.

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Re: FARR v2.00.01 ALPHA PREVIEW Release
« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2006, 04:32:24 AM »

Actually, i just tried, and that doesn't happen with removable drives! (if the drive isn't there, the file from the history isn't displayed)
So... No problems :D

I just checked that and you're right. The default list always only shows valid files, which is good. What's more, CD/DVD drives work OK so long as you keep a disc (any old disc will do) in place after you've picked one file.  If you pick a file from one CD and then pop the CD and put another in, the file disappears from the list. It comes back when the right CD is inserted.

It would be nice, though, if that message box were caught so that an empty drive behavĂ­ed the same as a removed drive.
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Re: FARR v2.00.01 ALPHA PREVIEW Release
« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2006, 05:59:11 AM »
ok, i get it now.. btw, the ability to configure the copy path action is very good..


ok, i get it now.. btw, the ability to configure the copy path action is very good..


Were you using "Copy Path" to paste it into the search window? I did a lot of that until I discovered the RIGHT arrow.  :-[



@Mouser I've just worked out what "Search for All Matches" does  :Thmbsup:

Shouldn't this be a global thing like a Maximise button?

Maybe it should be the Maximise button: when it's on F&RR displays all the search results, when it's off it stops looking when the window's full. The setting could be preserved as you go in and out of directories with the arrow keys, so you could use the results window for many jobs where you'd otherwise want to open a file manager.
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Re: FARR v2.00.01 ALPHA PREVIEW Release
« Reply #30 on: December 23, 2006, 01:02:24 AM »
that looks amazing! please hook a brother up with a download link...

cheers

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Re: FARR v2.00.01 ALPHA PREVIEW Release
« Reply #31 on: December 23, 2006, 04:46:03 AM »
wurst, i'm going to upload a much improved new beta tomorrow and i will send you the link.

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Re: FARR v2.00.01 ALPHA PREVIEW Release
« Reply #32 on: December 23, 2006, 05:52:02 AM »
Really looking forward to this one, FARR was my original reason for joining, along with Screenshot Captor.

I've been using a custom alias called C:\ with the expression   ^([a-z]\:\\)(.*)   and  Open $$1$$2 | $$1$$2    to go directly to folders, but actual folder searching WITH auto complete would be great.  With my expression, a wrong dir name simply does nothing.
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Re: FARR v2.00.01 ALPHA PREVIEW Release
« Reply #33 on: December 23, 2006, 02:42:45 PM »
mouser,

I'd love to play around with the new version of FARR! Could I have a download link as well (when you upload the new beta is fine :D)? Thanks!
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Re: FARR v2.00.01 ALPHA PREVIEW Release
« Reply #34 on: December 23, 2006, 07:22:18 PM »
Mouser can ya send me a beta link as well? I read the whole topic and am dying to test the new features!!!

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Re: Latest FARR v2.00.07 ALPHA PREVIEW Release - December 23, 2006
« Reply #35 on: December 24, 2006, 10:24:47 AM »
Some screenshots of v2.00.07 with dif skins:

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Re: Latest FARR v2.00.07 ALPHA PREVIEW Release - December 23, 2006
« Reply #36 on: December 24, 2006, 10:26:57 AM »
ps i have messaged the latest link to testers - it includes a Skin pack with +100 skins :)

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Re: Latest FARR v2.00.07 ALPHA PREVIEW Release - December 23, 2006
« Reply #37 on: December 24, 2006, 11:49:51 AM »
MOUSER! YOU FORGOT ME! How dare you!

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Re: Latest FARR v2.00.07 ALPHA PREVIEW Release - December 23, 2006
« Reply #38 on: December 24, 2006, 01:50:14 PM »
mouser: great work indeed! :beerchug: It seems much faster, but I've just moved to a new Macbook, and Windows itself runs at Warp 11 even when virtualized.

Could you explain the modified history heuristics in a bit more detail?

As an aside, here is FARR running under OSX ;)

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FARR Wishes: Performance TweaksTask ControlAdaptive History
[url=http://opera.com/]
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Re: Latest FARR v2.00.07 ALPHA PREVIEW Release - December 23, 2006
« Reply #39 on: December 24, 2006, 02:41:40 PM »
Quote
Could you explain the modified history heuristics in a bit more detail?

yep, i need to write up a whole thing about it, and make some movies, but basically it works like this:

you set the min and max for history items in heuristic scoring tab.

the first time you launch something it will get stored in history with min score.

each time you launch it again, it will get +1 points
each time you lanch something else it will lose -0.1 points

it wont ever get higher than max, or lower than min.

in this way, when you launch something a lot it will grow to max score, and so thus be on top of other items in history.

also note you can set any item manually to a score in history lower or higher than min and max (respetively), and it will maintain a fixed position when displaying hisotry on blank search.

let me know if this doesnt make sense, or wasn't what you had in mind.

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Re: Latest FARR v2.00.07 ALPHA PREVIEW Release - December 23, 2006
« Reply #40 on: December 24, 2006, 02:46:17 PM »
which icon above should i make the default?

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Re: Latest FARR v2.00.07 ALPHA PREVIEW Release - December 23, 2006
« Reply #41 on: December 24, 2006, 03:29:19 PM »
mouser: sounds good to me, though it woud be nice if we could choose the values for increment and decrement.

It seems that it adds 2 on each load for me though, I go from e.g. 761 to 763 on relaunch (making sure I am not showing the history on start which has the old value not current value).

Best icon in my opinion (ah, the joys of aesthetic relativism...) is nudone's white F key for the default. It fits into most colour schemes and signifies exactly what FARR does...
FARR Wishes: Performance TweaksTask ControlAdaptive History
[url=http://opera.com/]

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Re: Latest FARR v2.00.07 ALPHA PREVIEW Release - December 23, 2006
« Reply #42 on: December 24, 2006, 04:04:07 PM »
I am partial to the blue F. That or the winman. Great icons!

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Re: Latest FARR v2.00.07 ALPHA PREVIEW Release - December 23, 2006
« Reply #43 on: December 24, 2006, 10:42:16 PM »
ps.
anyone who wants to try the alpha version please message me.

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Re: Latest FARR v2.00.07 ALPHA PREVIEW Release - December 23, 2006
« Reply #44 on: December 25, 2006, 07:45:40 PM »
Were you using "Copy Path" to paste it into the search window? I did a lot of that until I discovered the RIGHT arrow.
i knew about the right-arrow key but i copy paths mainly for pasting into file dialogs.. i don't use the browse button that much.. :)

btw, mouser.. is the link same as the previous alphas?

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Re: Latest FARR v2.00.07 ALPHA PREVIEW Release - December 23, 2006
« Reply #45 on: December 25, 2006, 10:23:54 PM »
Just installed FARR 2 alpha 07. Great work, mouser! I'll enjoy using it in upcoming days, but a few initial reactions:

1. Directory searching is great. Very handy to use Right arrow (easier than Alt+Right) to browse into a folder. The Left arrow doesn't work as well because you have to go down into the search results to use it, and if there are no search results then you can't do that, so it's easier just to get in the habit of using Alt+Left.

2. Why does the wildcard * only find files, not folders? As a result, it seems that there's no way to show folders which must begin with ABC. (One tries to enter ABC* but only files appear.)

3. Now with the extra capabilities of directory searching, I will want to open folders from FARR more often. But I use Windows Explorer as seldom as possible (why would I, when Total Commander exists?) How about a user confuguration option to specify the preferred file manager command (of course including command line switches, so use a placeholder like %d to indicate the place in the command line where the desired dir name should be inserted.)

4. IMHO the all-grey edit/input line is confusing, a violation of the windows norm that input fields are white (or sometimes another color, but in any case different than the basic grey color of buttons and status lines and menu bars etc. Personally, I can adapt to any color, but I do think that it's likely to be confusing to new users, to be expected to type into a field that doesn't LOOK like an input field.

5. I don't much care about the program icon, since I keep it hidden most of the time, since I call FARR by its hotkey.

6. At some point in the future, perhaps FARR will be able to browse into archive (eg ZIP) files. By default, probably better not to search them (because of performance), but explicit browsing down could be very powerful.

Thanks!


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Re: Latest FARR v2.00.07 ALPHA PREVIEW Release - December 23, 2006
« Reply #46 on: December 25, 2006, 10:59:15 PM »
ps i have messaged the latest link to testers - it includes a Skin pack with +100 skins
mouser, the link given to me doesn't have the +100 skins.. :(
also, how do i turn off the frightening big bold text on the edit line? ;)
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jdmarch: to answer your q#3, see here: "Custom File Explorer" option...


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Re: Latest FARR v2.00.07 ALPHA PREVIEW Release - December 23, 2006
« Reply #47 on: December 25, 2006, 11:22:40 PM »
Re: Custom File Explorer
Thanks, lanux, very nice! (Would be just perfect if I could configure command line switches and the placeholder variable, so that I could make the folder open in total commander's right panel).
Eventually this should be in the help file for those of us that actually do occasionally RTFM :)

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Re: Latest FARR v2.00.07 ALPHA PREVIEW Release - December 23, 2006
« Reply #48 on: December 26, 2006, 12:03:02 AM »
now that you mention it, salamander also has some cmd-line option for left-right panels.. jdmarch, why don't you post this request in the Custom File Explorer thread itself? this way, it will be easier for mouser to work at it.. :)

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Re: Latest FARR v2.00.07 ALPHA PREVIEW Release - December 23, 2006
« Reply #49 on: December 26, 2006, 01:07:02 AM »
...
2. Why does the wildcard * only find files, not folders? As a result, it seems that there's no way to show folders which must begin with ABC. (One tries to enter ABC* but only files appear.)
...
4. IMHO the all-grey edit/input line is confusing, a violation of the windows norm that input fields are white (or sometimes another color, but in any case different than the basic grey color of buttons and status lines and menu bars etc. Personally, I can adapt to any color, but I do think that it's likely to be confusing to new users, to be expected to type into a field that doesn't LOOK like an input field.
...

2.
You actually dont need to use the * with folders or files, it will find patterns that have just the first few letters already.  the only time to use * is when you want like *.mp3 file patterns.  otherwise just do ABC and FARR interprets that as *ABC*.

4.
i'm afraid you are probably right about this one, it just looks so much nicer when it's skinned this way, imho.  i'll put an option maybe to use normal standard input box colors.