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Author Topic: Joel Spolsky's Recent Essays Opposing Simplicity  (Read 7862 times)

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Joel Spolsky's Recent Essays Opposing Simplicity
« on: December 15, 2006, 03:42:10 AM »
These days we here a lot about keeping things simple in software, in terms of user interfaces (I tend to think of Apple as one of the proponents of this basic approach to design).

Joel Spolsky is one of the best writers about software and his two latest long essays have discussed why this approach isn't always a good idea.  He argues for elegance but against simplicity.  Well worth reading:

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On Simplicty - Read here..
On Elegance - Read here..

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Re: Joel Spolsky's Recent Essays Opposing Simplicity
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2006, 05:57:29 PM »
Someone else today on same topic:
http://ryan-technora...2/on-simplicity.html

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Re: Joel Spolsky's Recent Essays Opposing Simplicity
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2007, 02:36:56 PM »
A response article by Scott Berkun:

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In defense of simplicity
Recently two notable design advocates, Don Norman and Joel Spolsky, challenged the value of simplicity in design, and I’m here to offer a late defense.
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It’s easy to confuse success with quality, and both articles discount our secret inability to make satisfying choices. We are attracted to things with more features, that cost less, or come in larger quantities, despite our inner suspicions that we’re likely to complain about those purchases soon after. We date people, eat food, take jobs and buy products for superficial, misguided reasons all the time. We’re easily seduced, and every marketer knows we always have been and always will be.

But we shouldn’t confuse the success of feature-laden crap as a signal for the irrelevance of simplicity any more than the success of Rocky IV and Burger King signaled the irrelevance of good film-making or fine dining. It just means there are gaps between what we need, what we want, and why we buy, and that the masses are by definition less discriminating than the niches of people with refined tastes for a particular thing.


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Re: Joel Spolsky's Recent Essays Opposing Simplicity
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2007, 04:55:14 PM »
Somebody who's not buying into the "Spolsky is a guru" crap: Joel On Software: Please Get Off of Software - good read, imho.

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Re: Joel Spolsky's Recent Essays Opposing Simplicity
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2007, 05:07:41 PM »
For the record I find Joel to be an excellent writer who produces regularly insightfull and thought provoking essay (he is also frequently very annoyingly self-promoting to the point of being painful to read).

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Re: Joel Spolsky's Recent Essays Opposing Simplicity
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2007, 08:53:17 PM »
I find him complex about 80% of the time and simple about 20%.  :P

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Re: Joel Spolsky's Recent Essays Opposing Simplicity
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2007, 09:16:54 PM »
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Joel On Software: Please Get Off of Software

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

this pun just hit me - love it  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Joel Spolsky's Recent Essays Opposing Simplicity
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2007, 03:53:50 AM »
Hehe yeah, it's pretty cute. There's also some nice stuff in the blog in general... iirc it's from one of the operators in #c++ on EFnet.
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Re: Joel Spolsky's Recent Essays Opposing Simplicity
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2007, 05:44:57 PM »

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Re: Joel Spolsky's Recent Essays Opposing Simplicity
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2007, 08:26:56 AM »
Somebody who's not buying into the "Spolsky is a guru" crap: Joel On Software: Please Get Off of Software - good read, imho.

My God... It's been a while since I laughed so hard... And on top of the that, most of the points made by author are really good points, especially the ones concerning the $800 chair. What the hell, $800 for a chair? Does it have a fridge at one side or something?
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