topbanner_forum
  *

avatar image

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
  • May 24, 2019, 02:02 AM
  • Proudly celebrating 13 years online.
  • Donate now to become a lifetime supporting member of the site and get a non-expiring license key for all of our programs.
  • donate

Author Topic: Switching.social  (Read 1481 times)

wraith808

  • Supporting Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • **
  • default avatar
  • Posts: 10,103
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Switching.social
« on: January 26, 2019, 09:44 PM »
https://switching.social/ is a list of ethical(?), easy-to-use and privacy-conscious alternatives.  I (?) ethical because that seems to be biased to the views of the site when that estimation should be in the eyes of the beholder.  But there are quite a few alternatives on there that seem to be worth looking into that I'd not heard of before.

Deozaan

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • ***
  • Points: 1
  • Posts: 8,727
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Switching.social
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2019, 02:27 AM »
Thanks! I perused a few of the links to see what they'd say about alternatives to a few things such as Windows, Office, and Chrome. They were all pretty much as I expected (Apple or Ubuntu, LibreOffice, and Firefox, respectively).

Also, I kind of hate the almost-but-not-quite Comic Sans font they use on their site. It makes it hard to read, IMO.

But when I looked at alternatives for Google Drive I found out about Nextcloud. :Thmbsup: I'll probably be setting up my own Nextcloud in the next few days to try it out.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2019, 02:33 AM by Deozaan »

wraith808

  • Supporting Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • **
  • default avatar
  • Posts: 10,103
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Switching.social
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2019, 01:35 PM »
I saw a few alternatives to gmail that I was going to look into.  I'd heard of Nextcloud before, but not Cryptpad, so I'm going to look into that also.

Shades

  • Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • **
  • Posts: 2,527
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Switching.social
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2019, 09:19 PM »
I'm running a Nextcloud server (v13.x...still need to migrate it to v15, although v13 still gets updated) on a old Linux box. Until this point, I must say that it is a very good experience. Has a lot of features in and off itself, but can be expanded with 3rd party mods. In my setup hardly any mods have been added, I mainly use it to transfer files to it from another continent by script using CarotDAV.

For my intends and purposes it is such a good solution that I didn't bother looking at anything else anymore.

However, if you look for something less resource intensive, WebDAV is pretty simple and you could simply enable the WebDAV mod from the Apache web server software. And I'm sure it is a pretty standard feature on the other main web server software packages (IIS, NGinX). That is the most basic version of a web drive you will ever get. but not really recommended if security is of any concern. Nextcloud comes with already with pretty decent authorization options and offers more options for extra security if you so desire.

wraith808

  • Supporting Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • **
  • default avatar
  • Posts: 10,103
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Switching.social
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2019, 04:03 PM »
https://mastodon.at/...ags/alternativesatoz

A series of toots by switching.social about different FOSS alternatives.

I currently have experience with writeFreely (excellent alternative for writing and having it federate or just using as a lightweight blog), PixelFed (Instagram alternative), Pinafore (alternative interface for Mastodon), PeerTube (alternative to Youtube), Friendica/Diaspora*/HubZilla (alternative social networks- I also use HubZilla for my RSS reader), open.audio (alternative to Soundcloud), and Cryptpad (alternative to Google Docs, operates similarly to f0dder's fSekrit but the pads are sharable). 

I don't go all in on the FOSS nor the privacy bit, but I use these because they are nice.  And the fact that you can own what you use in a different way than normal software has become appealing to me.  I don't have my own instances for all of these (in fact, right now I only have my own instance for Friendica and HubZilla), but the fact that I can do that with most of these is a really compelling idea.

Deozaan

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • ***
  • Points: 1
  • Posts: 8,727
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Switching.social
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2019, 05:10 PM »
https://mastodon.at/...ags/alternativesatoz

A series of toots by switching.social about different FOSS alternatives.

Looks like they were just tooting their list of alternatives from their site, and they finished going through the list about a month ago.

I'll probably be setting up my own Nextcloud in the next few days to try it out.

I attempted to set up Nextcloud on my hosted (shared) webserver, but it requires PHP 7 and my host has me on PHP 5. I was too lazy to immediately request my host upgrade me to PHP 7 so I could do this, and then kind of forgot about it for a while. I just opened a ticket asking if I could get PHP 7 on my host, and they responded by saying my hosting plan is old and doesn't support changing PHP versions, and that I need to upgrade to a newer hosting package which will allow me to change PHP versions (among other things). This will, of course, incur an additional cost, though they are running a promotion right now that will allow my first invoice to be significantly discounted to something cheaper than what I've paid the past 3 years. And they allow the option of billing for 3 years at a time, which means I'd be paid through about mid 2022. But until I make a decision on whether or not to make the upgrade, for now it means I can't Nextcloud on my host as I had planned.

I'm running a Nextcloud server (v13.x...still need to migrate it to v15, although v13 still gets updated) on a old Linux box. Until this point, I must say that it is a very good experience. Has a lot of features in and off itself, but can be expanded with 3rd party mods. In my setup hardly any mods have been added, I mainly use it to transfer files to it from another continent by script using CarotDAV.

For my intends and purposes it is such a good solution that I didn't bother looking at anything else anymore.

Thanks for your input. Nice to hear it has your recommendation.

In the meantime I decided to try out one of the free providers, though I'm a little hesitant to put much data on one of these free providers because I'm not sure what kind of security they use by default. Does anyone know if Nextcloud uses end-to-end encryption by default? I don't want the free provider to have access to my data.

wraith808

  • Supporting Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • **
  • default avatar
  • Posts: 10,103
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Switching.social
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2019, 05:30 PM »
In the meantime I decided to try out one of the free providers, though I'm a little hesitant to put much data on one of these free providers because I'm not sure what kind of security they use by default. Does anyone know if Nextcloud uses end-to-end encryption by default? I don't want the free provider to have access to my data.

I am not sure, and it was one of the reasons that I haven't checked more deeply into it.  I can upgrade to the version of PHP, but the space requirement is what keeps me from hosting my own.

rgdot

  • Supporting Member
  • Joined in 2009
  • **
  • Posts: 2,135
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Switching.social
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2019, 10:36 PM »
Encryption keys are stored only on the Nextcloud server, eliminating exposure of your data to third-party storage providers. The encryption app does not protect your data if your Nextcloud server is compromised, and it does not prevent Nextcloud administrators from reading user’s files. This would require client-side encryption, which this app does not provide. If your Nextcloud server is not connected to any external storage services then it is better to use other encryption tools, such as file-level or whole-disk encryption.

Note also that SSL terminates at or before Apache on the Nextcloud server, and all files will exist in an unencrypted state between the SSL connection termination and the Nextcloud code that encrypts and decrypts files. This is also potentially exploitable by anyone with administrator access to your server. Read How Nextcloud uses encryption to protect your data for more information.

https://docs.nextclo...highlight=encryption

Deozaan

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • ***
  • Points: 1
  • Posts: 8,727
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Switching.social
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2019, 01:49 AM »
Thanks for that, rgdot. :Thmbsup:

datguy

  • Participant
  • Joined in 2019
  • *
  • Posts: 4
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Switching.social
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2019, 09:04 AM »
I used several alternatives from your list. I liked PixelFed , and Cryptpad is also not bad. But open.audio I don't like, soundcloud is better for me. They also made interesting with the promotion of the account, with plays and followers, I used soundcloudgrow service and pumped my acc very fast  8)
« Last Edit: April 27, 2019, 02:45 PM by datguy »