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Author Topic: Ophcrack Failed to find my password on Windows 10  (Read 2562 times)

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Ophcrack Failed to find my password on Windows 10
« on: March 22, 2018, 05:34 AM »
I got my laptop upgraded to windows 10 a few days ago and Ophcrack works well to help me find lost password. but now it seems no longer work on Windows 10 built. Is something I am missing or it doesn't work on win in nature?

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Re: Ophcrack Failed to find my password on Windows 10
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2018, 05:43 AM »
As this discussion pertains to cracking/hacking, I would direct you to their Wiki

DonationCoder.com is not affiliated with Ophcrack and as such, the only answers you would get here is from any potential users of said tool(s).

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Re: Ophcrack Failed to find my password on Windows 10
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2018, 10:20 PM »
As this discussion pertains to cracking/hacking, I would direct you to their Wiki

DonationCoder.com is not affiliated with Ophcrack and as such, the only answers you would get here is from any potential users of said tool(s).
-Stephen66515 (March 22, 2018, 05:43 AM)

Thanks for pointing out. sadly, not able to find the solution to get it fixed.

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Re: Ophcrack Failed to find my password on Windows 10
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2018, 11:32 PM »
I seem to remember reading that they changed the login mechanism, (when using a password), so that it operates in a secure environment inaccessible to the user thus the normal methods, (Ophcrack, John the Ripper, etc), wouldn't work and that you could really only reset passwords under Windows 10.

Note, this is my understanding/interpretation, quite possibly wrong, based on a half remembered article read over a year ago.

f0dder would definitely know.

In the meantime, this might be what I'm thinking of: Windows 10: Virtualization-based security

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Re: Ophcrack Failed to find my password on Windows 10
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2018, 09:59 PM »
I seem to remember reading that they changed the login mechanism, (when using a password), so that it operates in a secure environment inaccessible to the user thus the normal methods, (Ophcrack, John the Ripper, etc), wouldn't work and that you could really only reset passwords under Windows 10.

Note, this is my understanding/interpretation, quite possibly wrong, based on a half remembered article read over a year ago.

f0dder would definitely know.

In the meantime, this might be what I'm thinking of: Windows 10: Virtualization-based security

Appreciated for the input. Yes, you are correct. MS changed the policy in windows 10. Users can login with MS account.

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Re: Ophcrack Failed to find my password on Windows 10
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2018, 10:16 PM »
Are you logging in with MS Account?  Or local account?

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Re: Ophcrack Failed to find my password on Windows 10
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2018, 07:15 AM »
Not quite what you asked for, But... We've used this successfully on 10 for resetting passwords: Lazesoft Recover My Password (local account is assumed).

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Re: Ophcrack Failed to find my password on Windows 10
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2018, 08:16 AM »
Not quite what you asked for, But... We've used this successfully on 10 for resetting passwords: Lazesoft Recover My Password (local account is assumed).

Because with MS account, you can go through the standard MS password recovery process.

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Re: Ophcrack Failed to find my password on Windows 10
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2018, 12:47 AM »
Try grabbing the NTLM hashes, (Ophcrack, samdump, mimikatz, etc), and upload to NTLM Decryptor.

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Re: Ophcrack Failed to find my password on Windows 10
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2018, 09:45 PM »
I got my laptop upgraded to windows 10 a few days ago and Ophcrack works well to help me find lost password. but now it seems no longer work on Windows 10 built. Is something I am missing or it doesn't work on win in nature?

Not quite what you asked for, But... We've used this successfully on 10 for resetting passwords: Recover My Password (local account is assumed).

so, what is other ways you know/suggest?
« Last Edit: April 18, 2018, 09:01 PM by bassspoo »

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Re: Ophcrack Failed to find my password on Windows 10
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2018, 10:00 PM »
so, what is other ways you know/suggest?

Is there a reason you need to recover your password rather than reset?

ie. Do you have folders/files that are OS encrypted?

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Re: Ophcrack Failed to find my password on Windows 10
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2018, 09:04 PM »
so, what is other ways you know/suggest?

Is there a reason you need to recover your password rather than reset?

ie. Do you have folders/files that are OS encrypted?

No, both are fine for me. Only one drive was encrypted with bitlocker. however, it is not the system drive. I already got this fixed. the burning process failed last time and that is why I am asking for new suggestion.

Thanks

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Re: Ophcrack Failed to find my password on Windows 10
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2018, 02:24 AM »
Ophcrack
sometimes ,i'm also surprised that the Ophcrack doesn't seem to work on Windows 10,i looked at their website and didn't say Windows 10 is not supported

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Re: Ophcrack Failed to find my password on Windows 10
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2018, 07:43 AM »
There is a convoluted work around to enable the hidden admin account - you can then login as admin and reset local passwords on other users. I have used this method to help clients but don't want to publish the details here - though a quick google search will help ;-)

Not sure there is a solution if you use an MS account to login other than their password reset tools online.

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Re: Ophcrack Failed to find my password on Windows 10
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2018, 08:26 AM »
There is a convoluted work around to enable the hidden admin account - you can then login as admin and reset local passwords on other users. I have used this method to help clients but don't want to publish the details here - though a quick google search will help ;-)

Not sure there is a solution if you use an MS account to login other than their password reset tools online.

This link to a tutorial may be helpful:
https://www.tenforum...nt-windows-10-a.html


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Re: Ophcrack Failed to find my password on Windows 10
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2018, 01:46 PM »
There is a convoluted work around to enable the hidden admin account - you can then login as admin and reset local passwords on other users. I have used this method to help clients but don't want to publish the details here - though a quick google search will help ;-)

Not sure there is a solution if you use an MS account to login other than their password reset tools online.


This is actually the reason that I switched to using MS accounts at home- there's an alternative for resetting.

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Re: Ophcrack Failed to find my password on Windows 10
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2018, 05:19 PM »
I always used the 'Offline NT Passwords & Registry editor' to reset the admin password. Still works with Windows 10. Caveat: that was one of the earlier Windows 10 builds at the time. And it didn't have any file system encryption enabled anywhere. That last bit is important, because if you have that Windows functionality enabled somewhere on the disk (or the whole disk), accessing the encrypted data will be next to impossible.