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View first unread in thread?
« on: November 21, 2014, 05:45:34 AM »
Most forums have a "view first unread" button for threads.  I found one reference to pressing the "new icon" to show the first unread in the thread.  Bit I don't see the icon or anything that looks like it will view the first unread post.  I've been hitting "Go Down" then backing up..  kind of awkward.  Is there a button that does the View First Unread in Thread function?
« Last Edit: November 24, 2014, 05:00:29 PM by MilesAhead »

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Re: v\View first unread in thread?
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2014, 07:03:35 AM »
Once a thread is displayed - it has been read.
A button ~View unread post~ can not exist
on the layout with the post "being under reading/having been read".

".new#new" addition to the link
can lead to the first unread post from outside a thread
only once,,
until a thread will be updated again when it is not being viewed.
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Re: v\View first unread in thread?
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2014, 09:12:31 AM »
Try it yourself
http://www.sevenforu...et-ssds-booting.html

I don't care about the html.  In forums the link is usually labelled "view first unread."

Edit:  The second time into the thread "view first unread" won't be there if there are no additions to the thread.  But what difference does that make?  Once I read the first unread I'm in position to read the replies to it.


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Re: v\View first unread in thread?
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2014, 01:13:29 PM »
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Try it yourself
http://www.sevenforums.co...rmarket-ssds-booting.html

Should i register there preliminarily ?
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« Last Edit: November 21, 2014, 01:20:21 PM by gri »

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Re: v\View first unread in thread?
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2014, 01:19:06 PM »
Try it yourself
http://www.sevenforu...et-ssds-booting.html

Should i register there preliminarily ?

If you use Windows 7 I recommend it. If you are on Windows 8 this forum has the same feature
http://www.eightforums.com/

Might as well choose the appropriate forum if applicable since they are great sources for the Windows OS.  :)

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Re: v\View first unread in thread?
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2014, 01:42:54 PM »
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If you use Windows 7 I recommend it.

I just wanted to clarify that testing is impossible without registration.

(I can not show publicly which OSes i am using.)
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Re: v\View first unread in thread?
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2014, 02:59:10 PM »
Most forums have a "view first unread" button for threads.  I found one reference to pressing the "new icon" to show the first unread in the thread.  Bit I don't see the icon or anything that looks like it will view the first unread post.  I've been hitting "Go Down" then backing up..  kind of awkward.  Is there a button that does the View First Unread in Thread function?

That new does the same thing.  It views the first post that is unread for you.  After you press it, that goes away... until someone posts again to that thread.  Am I misunderstanding your need?

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Re: v\View first unread in thread?
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2014, 03:57:16 PM »
Most forums have a "view first unread" button for threads.  I found one reference to pressing the "new icon" to show the first unread in the thread.  Bit I don't see the icon or anything that looks like it will view the first unread post.  I've been hitting "Go Down" then backing up..  kind of awkward.  Is there a button that does the View First Unread in Thread function?

That new does the same thing.  It views the first post that is unread for you.  After you press it, that goes away... until someone posts again to that thread.  Am I misunderstanding your need?

What "new" are you talking about?  Say in this thread as example.  You just posted a new reply.  I log on and click "show new replies to your posts" and this thread has a link shown.  I click it.  But I don't see any "new" button or link inside the thread.  All I have to use is "go down."  In the other forums when I open a thread with new replies I can click "view first unread" since there may be 4 pages of new replies.

I gather everyone else can see something that's not showing in my browser.  At least that's how it feels?   :-\

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Re: v\View first unread in thread?
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2014, 04:33:07 PM »
I just go to show unread posts.. and it shows me a list of posts, each with a new beside it.

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Re: v\View first unread in thread?
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2014, 05:59:00 AM »
You are doing it outside the thread.  What I'm talking about is inside the thread instead of pressing Go Down there should be a link View First Unread (in thread) so that you are in position to read the unread posts of the thread without clicking a link for each.  To me it's way more convenient than a top/bottom of page which is all Go Up and Go Down is.  After all I have Home End keys already.

Not life shattering.  :)  But if you got accustomed to it I think you'd miss it.

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Re: v\View first unread in thread?
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2014, 10:03:35 AM »
Additional Required Information
What's your OS? Please state which version of Windows you are running

Please tell Windows 7 Help Forums administrator
to move the OS field
to the "Additional Information (Optional)" section.
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Re: v\View first unread in thread?
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2014, 10:09:53 AM »
Additional Required Information
What's your OS? Please state which version of Windows you are running

Please tell Windows 7 Help Forums administrator
to move the OS field
to the "Additional Information (Optional)" section.


Why go through a proxy?  Tell him yourself.

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Re: v\View first unread in thread?
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2014, 01:35:09 PM »
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Tell him yourself.

How can i, being not registered there ?
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Re: v\View first unread in thread?
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2014, 10:13:23 AM »
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Tell him yourself.

How can i, being not registered there ?


You are the one who wants to send the message.  Where there's a wll there's a way.  :)
Me, if I wasn't running Windows and the forum was Windows Seven Forums I would just put Windows 7 for OS.  I don't think they send the FBI if you lie.  :)  (They send the NSA.)

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Re: v\View first unread in thread?
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2014, 12:00:00 PM »
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if you lie.

No.
I am Spacely Honest.
Because i'm a Human.

Quote from: MilesAhead
if I wasn't running Windows and the forum was Windows Seven Forums
I would just put Windows 7 for OS.

Show the link to any your own topic there.
(Members list is not accessible for guests.)

Quote from: MilesAhead
You are the one who wants to send the message.

No, i am the one who wish YOU globally quoted my request there
in ~MilesAhead to Admin~ public dialogue topic (gritoadmix).
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Re: v\View first unread in thread?
« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2014, 04:21:35 PM »
This thread is sidetracked.  Since Mouser doesn't chime in I can only assume the board software somehow makes it awkward to implement or everyone is fine with a chain of new posts from mixed threads.  Either way it looks like no joy.

I guess I'll just switch to newest post at top of thread instead of chronological order.

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Re: v\View first unread in thread?
« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2014, 09:16:08 PM »
This thread is sidetracked. 

Agreed... and good for pointing it out.  And if it's not obvious, once clarified... I have no help for you.  :(

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Re: v\View first unread in thread?
« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2014, 10:19:59 PM »
Most forums have a "view first unread" button for threads.  I found one reference to pressing the "new icon" to show the first unread in the thread.  Bit I don't see the icon or anything that looks like it will view the first unread post.  I've been hitting "Go Down" then backing up..  kind of awkward.  Is there a button that does the View First Unread in Thread function?
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...I can only assume the board software somehow makes it awkward to implement or everyone is fine with a chain of new posts from mixed threads.  Either way it looks like no joy.
 guess I'll just switch to newest post at top of thread instead of chronological order.
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Though it's neither a "button" nor a solution, the closest approach to a solution that I had for this same requirement was in Google Reader, which had  a rather good Firefox add-in - "Google Reader Filter", that was really handy on DCF where you could have lots of new posts on the same/different threads, interspersed with new topic posts. I managed to get it so that the filter displayed only the latest post in any ongoing discussion, thus, you only saw the latest post (with a prefix "Re:") or the first post of a new topic. This got rid of all the "noise" and greatly assisted skim-reading:

Google Reader - 01 Reader view.png

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Re: v\View first unread in thread?
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2014, 05:27:15 AM »


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No.
I am Spacely Honest.
Because i'm a Human.

It occurs to me if you enter "none" it will be accepted.

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Re: v\View first unread in thread?
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2014, 05:29:45 AM »
Thanks for the tip on Google Reader.  I'll take a look.   :Thmbsup:

Edit:  Looks like they killed it
http://www.google.com/reader/about/
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Re: v\View first unread in thread?
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2014, 06:44:58 AM »
Oh, sorry, yes. I would have mentioned it, but I assumed you would have already known that Google Reader was killed off some time ago.
I now use Bazqux reader, which looks just like Google Reader and behaves almost the same too. Only thing is, it cannot use the Google Reader Filter extension. I am wondering whether to rewrite the filter myself, or ask the developer to provide something that does the job.
The filter seems to be in Java script, and I am unfamiliar with writing that, but I could probably figure it out if I decided to give it the necessary time...

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Re: v\View first unread in thread?
« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2014, 11:03:01 AM »
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It occurs to me if you enter "none" it will be accepted.

I have tested such a choice.
It resulted in registration reject.

Can you declare which browser are you using ?
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Re: v\View first unread in thread?
« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2014, 11:24:58 AM »
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It occurs to me if you enter "none" it will be accepted.

I have tested such a choice.
It resulted in registration reject.

Can you declare which browser are you using ?


I am using Firefox.  But in any event on those Windows forums the specialized links, such as show unanswered posts, view first unread etc.. do everything with JavaScript search statements from what I can see.  If there is no new post since I last viewed the thread there will be no link.  I think it stores the post number I last viewed in each subscribed thread to make the View First Unread work.  For finding unanswered I suspect it does a query of threads with a post count = 1 etc..


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Re: v\View first unread in thread?
« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2014, 11:30:50 AM »
Oh, sorry, yes. I would have mentioned it, but I assumed you would have already known that Google Reader was killed off some time ago.
I now use Bazqux reader, which looks just like Google Reader and behaves almost the same too. Only thing is, it cannot use the Google Reader Filter extension. I am wondering whether to rewrite the filter myself, or ask the developer to provide something that does the job.
The filter seems to be in Java script, and I am unfamiliar with writing that, but I could probably figure it out if I decided to give it the necessary time...

The little bit of dabbling I did with JavaScript I found a bit frustrating.  Enough time has passed that I forget the particulars.  But I think what bugs me about doing web is that even with scripting languages, not to mention compiled, you can set a variable value and count on it being there whereas the back button seems to undo everything.  It just seems like a frustrating medium for programming.  I don't like to use anything more complicated than target = _top.  :)

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Re: v\View first unread in thread?
« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2014, 12:20:44 PM »
Here on SMF software
when you click the "new" icon in topic list -
the display of the updated thread is being positioned
with the first unread post at top of the screen
in the list of sequential posts.
Isn't it on your side ?
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