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Author Topic: Firefox 25.x scrolling sucks  (Read 3560 times)

MilesAhead

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Firefox 25.x scrolling sucks
« on: November 15, 2013, 11:45:25 AM »
Firefox 25.x scrolling sucks.  This topic was discussed some time back with older versions. It suggested making a new topic since the old one was, er, old.  :)

I'm running FF portable 25.0 and as default browser..  Firefox installed 25.1.  After going through AddOns it seems on the Portable it was Tab Mix Plus that prevented me from scrolling.  On the installed it seems to be Download Status Bar.  Granted these might act normally on a snappy network.  But the WiFi at the library can really hang.  But for some reason killing and/or removing these AddOns seems to allow me to scroll the page at least.

The installed FF was so bad it would open to an empty page and still hang.  I couldn't even open a bookmark folder without waiting for who knows what.  Really weird.

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Re: Firefox 25.x scrolling sucks
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2013, 12:09:10 PM »
Try "Tab Utilities". And see if that helps.
You have to use the development channel version.
Scroll to the bottom of the page for the development channel.

https://addons.mozil...addon/tab-utilities/

You might need to disable or uninstall Tab Mix Plus.

If that helps, I don't know. No scrolling problems here.

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Re: Firefox 25.x scrolling sucks
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2013, 01:08:02 PM »
I don't remember it being this bad ever.  It's almost like the signals from the mouse are on hold.  It's tough to tell exactly what's what when the network hangs so often.  Kind of strange in itself because sometimes all the pages in my browser will be spinning cursors except that I download a 9 MB file and it's down as soon as I click it.  Really hard to figure.  :)

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Re: Firefox 25.x scrolling sucks
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2013, 04:06:54 PM »
Old flashes are at the root of evil ( :huh: )... Update Flash, and you will have less problems.

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Re: Firefox 25.x scrolling sucks
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2013, 10:05:51 AM »
Old flashes are at the root of evil ( :huh: )... Update Flash, and you will have less problems.


I have the newest release.  I'll double check it though.
Thanks.  :)

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Re: Firefox 25.x scrolling sucks
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2013, 04:29:15 PM »
Out of desperation I tried Waterfox Portable 18.01.  That helps somewhat.  Tough to tell with herky jerky WiFi.  Seems like all of them have been total crap lately.  I can't set portable browser as default so I set it to IE.  I only use that for WiFi login screens that need to launch via default browser.

This 18.01 is a lot snappier than 24.0 WF.  Still a bit sluggish coming up.  But no where near as bad as 24.0.

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Re: Firefox 25.x scrolling sucks
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2013, 11:31:26 PM »
I can't set portable browser as default so I set it to IE.

Try this: Change Default Browser
Or this: Register Firefox Portable With Default Programs in Windows 7/Vista

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This 18.01 is a lot snappier than 24.0 WF.  Still a bit sluggish coming up.  But no where near as bad as 24.0.

Have you tried Pale Moon, (x86, x64 and portable builds) ?

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Re: Firefox 25.x scrolling sucks
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2013, 09:26:04 AM »
I tried Pale Moon awhile back.  I think most of it is the staccato WiFi on/off/on/off/on/off

The thing I don't understand is why these browsers insist on connecting when using the back button when the page was loaded only a few seconds ago.  What's the Internet Cache for?  It's infuriating when you have to sit and wait just to go back one page when you know damn well the data is already there.

Seems they overreacted to complaints from people who had to hit F5 in older versions.  Now it loads no matter what settings are in effect it seems.

At least this WF is much better afa scrolling.

I'll take a look at default portable setting.  Thanks.  :)

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Re: Firefox 25.x scrolling sucks
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2013, 10:11:11 AM »
Maybe you would know... is there a method to launch a FF derived browser skipping session restore for this launch only?  I tried Shift click, alt click on the shortcut. It just comes up as always.  If I could bring it up blank then the page open would go to it instead of IE.  Opening with sessions it tries to connect before the WiFi is initialized causing the browser to just hang.


(I tried searching for the answer but all I get is how to set the session settings.. which does me no good as I want the session restore for WiFi that will connect with no manual intervention.)

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Re: Firefox 25.x scrolling sucks
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2013, 10:43:00 AM »
Instead of messing with sessions I set up BrowserBunch to open with my 4 main tabs and set the browser to open a blank page.  Otherwise it will just come up frozen with the network here.

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Re: Firefox 25.x scrolling sucks
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2013, 10:52:35 AM »
If I could bring it up blank then the page open would go to it instead of IE.

I'm not 100% sure what you mean by 'page open' - but IIUC, this'll work:
install the 'Session Manager' extension. In the options, select "Prompt for a session" for "At startup always load..."

If I click on a link, and FF is not open, it will open the page. The Session Manager dialogue window opens too - I can ignore it or cancel it, or open the last/or another session (will open in a second window).

Tom

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Re: Firefox 25.x scrolling sucks
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2013, 11:10:29 AM »
I don't know if it's a Windows8 thing or what but it seems even if IE is the default browser, if another browser is open, a page launch will go to it instead. I have no idea how it's being launched as it's part of the WiFi click a hotspot "connect" button.  This is my first Laptop so it's all new ground.

I prefer to use BrowserBunch because if I switch to another browser all I have to do is add it to the row of buttons. Not configure yet another program.

One thing I did find is if you turn off FF addressbar url trim in about:config then you have to provide the full url on the command line.. with the http:// and the whole nine yards.  Otherwise the browser bunch text file read in can have just site.domainsuffix or 3w.site.domainsuffix etc..

Strange that it's so damn picky.  :)

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Re: Firefox 25.x scrolling sucks
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2013, 07:17:39 PM »
The thing I don't understand is why these browsers insist on connecting when using the back button when the page was loaded only a few seconds ago.  What's the Internet Cache for?  It's infuriating when you have to sit and wait just to go back one page when you know damn well the data is already there.

You could try changing the cached doc check frequency to 2 (Never) or 0 (Once per session), default is 3 (when it expires - which seems to be rather vague).

about:config -> browser.cache.check_doc_frequency

In Pale Moon Commander addon:

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Re: Firefox 25.x scrolling sucks
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2013, 09:17:23 AM »
Thanks for the info.  :)

edit: I tried setting of 2 but it still loads the page when it first connects regardless of cache.  So I'm going with 0.  At least the back button is responsive.  Instead of spinning cursors I think Windows 9 needs to play a porno while you're waiting for pages to load.  Man!!  My 14.4 modem was faster than this over the phone!!!
« Last Edit: November 19, 2013, 09:41:46 AM by MilesAhead »