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Author Topic: Convert PDF to DOC in a special way...  (Read 5986 times)

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Convert PDF to DOC in a special way...
« on: December 02, 2012, 08:59:45 PM »
Convert PDF to DOC in a special way...

I have a pdf form. I need to convert in doc because I use CRM Goldmine to fusion or insert fields in the doc.

The most simple way for me will be if I can simply consider each page of the PDF as an image, and convert the pdf into a word document composed by images. Each page in the word document is an image.

Then I can use an overlay with transparent textbox to insert the fields to my convenience.

Do you know a method to do this with good resolution and results ?

Best Regards
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Re: Convert PDF to DOC in a special way...
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2012, 09:47:13 PM »
here's one of many that might work for you

http://www.boxoft.com/pdf-to-jpg/

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Re: Convert PDF to DOC in a special way...
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2012, 10:05:16 PM »
But a jpg only goes in one page of the doc document.
My document have three pages.

Best Regards

i would a soft to convert the three pages of the pdf in a word document with three pages (three images)


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Re: Convert PDF to DOC in a special way...
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2012, 10:13:04 PM »
Boxoft pdf to jpg can do 1 page of the pdf at a time.
If you try it, you might like it, I don't know.

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Re: Convert PDF to DOC in a special way...
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2012, 10:14:54 PM »
opps, wrong place for this post, sorry

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Re: Convert PDF to DOC in a special way...
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2012, 05:44:54 PM »
 ;D

Oh don't worry . Perhaps someone knows any program.

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Re: Convert PDF to DOC in a special way...
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2012, 09:29:54 PM »
If it's important, I would recommend recreating the file as a DOC from scratch. I have never seen any PDF conversion that was decent (I've tried out many, including Acrobat). Some will convert to pure text somewhat reasonably, but you'll still need to reformat everything and insert fields, images, etc. The image method you mentioned can work, but it will still be a pretty ugly solution.
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Re: Convert PDF to DOC in a special way...
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2012, 04:04:12 AM »
What Renegade says. You will end up with a blurry form with sharp overlays, especially when printed.

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Re: Convert PDF to DOC in a special way...
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2012, 04:14:26 AM »
Maybe Universal Document Converter 5.5 would help(compatible w/Office 2013) - it converts pdf into image files(multiple pages will be correctly handled if you choose tiff format)- UDC does NOT convert pdf to doc/docx files.

http://www.print-driver.com/overview/

OR, you may try Abby products:
Finereader Pro OCR :http://finereader.abbyy.com/about_ocr/whatis_ocr/
Screenshot reader : http://www.abbyy.com/screenshot_reader/

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« Last Edit: December 04, 2012, 04:25:38 AM by SKA »

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Re: Convert PDF to DOC in a special way...
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2012, 04:18:46 AM »
Maybe Universal Document Converter 5.5 would help(compatible w/Office 2013) to convert pdf into image files(multiple pages will be correctly handled if choose tiff format, note that color tiff files are usually large size, if black n white tiff files sizes are smaller):

http://www.print-driver.com/overview/

I can print to multi-page Tiff with PDFCreator (which I think Contro uses as well)
http://sourceforge.n...projects/pdfcreator/

Can one successfully bring a multi-page tiff into a word processor?
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Re: Convert PDF to DOC in a special way...
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2012, 04:31:49 AM »
Re: Can one successfully bring a multi-page tiff into a word processor?

If OCR is not reqd, directly adding a TIFF file via Word import menu is possible but one may have to resize the tiff image inside the doc/docx to fit the page size(A4 , etc.)

These products use OCR/other components to convert to doc/docx or xls/xlsx or other Office formats:
Nuance PDF Converter Pro, FineReader Pro OCR , Nitro Pro OCR edition etc.

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Re: Convert PDF to DOC in a special way...
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2012, 08:46:49 AM »
PDF XChange Viewer can export pdfs as image, yo may try this to see if it works in your case:

PDF XChange Viewer:
-file->export->export to image:png,300dpi
MSWord:
-Remove margins on new doc
-insert image from file->order files by name, select them all and insert them into your doc

Edit:

BTW the best pdf to doc converter I have tried so far is VeryPDF PDF2Word,
you might want to try the free online converter or the shareware desktop version.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2012, 09:10:01 AM by kilele »

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Re: Convert PDF to DOC in a special way...
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2012, 03:43:21 PM »
If it's important, I would recommend recreating the file as a DOC from scratch. I have never seen any PDF conversion that was decent (I've tried out many, including Acrobat). Some will convert to pure text somewhat reasonably, but you'll still need to reformat everything and insert fields, images, etc. The image method you mentioned can work, but it will still be a pretty ugly solution.

I tried some time ago Solid Converter from PDF to DOC and impresive result.
Now is different.

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Re: Convert PDF to DOC in a special way...
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2012, 03:45:26 PM »
Maybe Universal Document Converter 5.5 would help(compatible w/Office 2013) - it converts pdf into image files(multiple pages will be correctly handled if you choose tiff format)- UDC does NOT convert pdf to doc/docx files.

http://www.print-driver.com/overview/

OR, you may try Abby products:
Finereader Pro OCR :http://finereader.abbyy.com/about_ocr/whatis_ocr/
Screenshot reader : http://www.abbyy.com/screenshot_reader/

Ska

All I see is what you talk about. Always considering the possibility of OCR transcription.
In this very special case I only need images at the other end (doc )

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Re: Convert PDF to DOC in a special way...
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2012, 03:46:35 PM »
Maybe Universal Document Converter 5.5 would help(compatible w/Office 2013) to convert pdf into image files(multiple pages will be correctly handled if choose tiff format, note that color tiff files are usually large size, if black n white tiff files sizes are smaller):

http://www.print-driver.com/overview/

I can print to multi-page Tiff with PDFCreator (which I think Contro uses as well)
http://sourceforge.n...projects/pdfcreator/

Can one successfully bring a multi-page tiff into a word processor?

That's the question.

Can one successfully bring a multi-page tiff into a word processor ?
And only images, not OCR techniques.

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Re: Convert PDF to DOC in a special way...
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2012, 03:47:55 PM »
Re: Can one successfully bring a multi-page tiff into a word processor?

If OCR is not reqd, directly adding a TIFF file via Word import menu is possible but one may have to resize the tiff image inside the doc/docx to fit the page size(A4 , etc.)

These products use OCR/other components to convert to doc/docx or xls/xlsx or other Office formats:
Nuance PDF Converter Pro, FineReader Pro OCR , Nitro Pro OCR edition etc.

Ska

Do you refer to adapt the several pages tiff into a single page in the doc ?

Or is possible to split ?

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Re: Convert PDF to DOC in a special way...
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2012, 03:57:10 PM »
Now my conclusion if nobody tells more.

One possible solution.
- The first solution I try was not a tiff of several pages.
This is not possible with jpg . So I convert every page in the pdf in a jpg.
Then adapt in the good resolution to the background or watermark in a single word doc.
Each word document contain one image as watermark.
I process each document with CRM Goldmine writing overlay.
After I print to pdf the fusioned word doc.
And join the resultants pdf into the final one after the fusion.
In this way I can produce my documents with Goldmine and word xp or 2002. It must be this one, because I only have gmlink for word 2002.

This solution is a little difficult.

- The second solution with Solid Converter.
I convert the pdf in a doc document.
and using ............ transparent textboxes in each page of the doc document.
I insert the fields from Goldmine with no problem.
http://www.carolscor...-text-boxes-in-word/
You can use also in word 2002.
this is more fast..... only a document to be treated, not so many as pages have the document.....

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Re: Convert PDF to DOC in a special way...
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2012, 03:59:28 PM »
PDF XChange Viewer can export pdfs as image, yo may try this to see if it works in your case:

PDF XChange Viewer:
-file->export->export to image:png,300dpi
MSWord:
-Remove margins on new doc
-insert image from file->order files by name, select them all and insert them into your doc

Edit:

BTW the best pdf to doc converter I have tried so far is VeryPDF PDF2Word,
you might want to try the free online converter or the shareware desktop version.

I tried pdf-xchange, and the resolution is important. Apply for my first method above.
pdf-xchange also can create a tiff of several pages.
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Re: Convert PDF to DOC in a special way...
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2012, 05:14:29 PM »
Did you try and import a multi page tiff into word?

or
are you happy with your second solution:

"The second solution with Solid Converter"
Tom

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Re: Convert PDF to DOC in a special way...
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2012, 05:48:11 PM »
I tried the first approach as explained above with pdf-xchange and multi page tiff into word,
but word did not accept more than the first image, that's why I chose importing multiple images after removing the doc margin in order to prevent word from scaling them.

 

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Re: Convert PDF to DOC in a special way...
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2012, 06:00:35 PM »
Did you try and import a multi page tiff into word?

or
are you happy with your second solution:

"The second solution with Solid Converter"

have you tried ? :
Can one successfully bring a multi-page tiff into a word processor?

Ejem. I am in the phase of the minimum effort......
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Re: Convert PDF to DOC in a special way...
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2012, 06:01:17 PM »
I tried the first approach as explained above with pdf-xchange and multi page tiff into word,
but word did not accept more than the first image, that's why I chose importing multiple images after removing the doc margin in order to prevent word from scaling them.

 

ejem. this is the answer Tomos.

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Re: Convert PDF to DOC in a special way...
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2012, 06:02:20 PM »
I suppose the second method is possible also with veryPDF PDF to word converter.....
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Re: Convert PDF to DOC in a special way...
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2012, 06:04:58 PM »
Did you try and import a multi page tiff into word?

or
are you happy with your second solution:

"The second solution with Solid Converter"

have you tried ? :
Can one successfully bring a multi-page tiff into a word processor?

Ejem. I am in the phase of the minimum effort......
 :-[

 ;D well - that gave me a laugh :D

yes, it looks like kilele has us covered ;-)
Tom

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Re: Convert PDF to DOC in a special way...
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2012, 06:06:49 PM »
I am happier with the second solution than with the first solution I think is applying kilele.
I haven't to take care of mounting the final document or taking care of the resolutions of the image.

My only difficults were with the word interlining but I think I have more or less solved. Is a question of practice.

Best Regards
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P.D. The problem of interlining in the overlay is similar in the first solution.
 :-[

With one document I only have a minimum disfunction of the conversion. The size of a letter.
Solid converter is the champion. I reduce and ready.
Simply marvellous.

« Last Edit: December 04, 2012, 06:19:07 PM by Contro »