Welcome Guest.   Make a donation to an author on the site October 20, 2014, 08:10:49 AM  *

Please login or register.
Or did you miss your validation email?


Login with username and password (forgot your password?)
Why not become a lifetime supporting member of the site with a one-time donation of any amount? Your donation entitles you to a ton of additional benefits, including access to exclusive discounts and downloads, the ability to enter monthly free software drawings, and a single non-expiring license key for all of our programs.


You must sign up here before you can post and access some areas of the site. Registration is totally free and confidential.
 
The N.A.N.Y. Challenge 2011! Download 30+ custom programs!
   
   Forum Home   Thread Marks Chat! Downloads Search Login Register  
Pages: [1]   Go Down
  Reply  |  New Topic  |  Print  
Author Topic: Apple Patent Reveals Extensive Stalking Plans  (Read 2902 times)
Stoic Joker
Honorary Member
**
Posts: 5,313



View Profile WWW Give some DonationCredits to this forum member
« on: May 03, 2011, 12:59:03 PM »

Just ran across this and thought it might interest some folks.

Apple Patent Reveals Extensive Stalking Plans (Gawker.com)
Logged
40hz
Supporting Member
**
Posts: 10,719



see users location on a map View Profile Read user's biography. Give some DonationCredits to this forum member
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2011, 02:04:44 PM »

Too funny! The above gawker link locked up my iPhone twice when I tried to read it! My client just tried it on her's. Same result.

Coincidence?

You be the judge.  tongue

(I'm joking here. Although it did lock up Safari on both our iPhones. What is Gawker doing these days with its websites?) Grin
Logged

Don't you see? It's turtles all the way down!
Stoic Joker
Honorary Member
**
Posts: 5,313



View Profile WWW Give some DonationCredits to this forum member
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2011, 02:55:46 PM »

Function CantHandleTruth(browser) {
 if(browser == Safari) {
   Kill! Kill! Kill!;
}else{
  JustLoadThePage();
}
}
Logged
tomos
Charter Member
***
Posts: 8,603



see users location on a map View Profile WWW Give some DonationCredits to this forum member
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2011, 03:49:10 PM »

so they have been lying, oh surprise...
(not that I'd expect any better of most corporations)

damn, we need a bit of good news around here Angry
(no, not shooting the messenger lol)
Logged

Tom
Stoic Joker
Honorary Member
**
Posts: 5,313



View Profile WWW Give some DonationCredits to this forum member
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2011, 03:57:53 PM »

damn, we need a bit of good news around here Angry

Sorry, I thought it was good news... *Shrug* ...For those of us what don't have any iLife. cheesy
Logged
tomos
Charter Member
***
Posts: 8,603



see users location on a map View Profile WWW Give some DonationCredits to this forum member
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2011, 04:04:55 PM »

damn, we need a bit of good news around here Angry

Sorry, I thought it was good news... *Shrug* ...For those of us what don't have any iLife. cheesy

yes, point taken Grin
Logged

Tom
Renegade
Charter Member
***
Posts: 11,609



Tell me something you don't know...

see users location on a map View Profile WWW Give some DonationCredits to this forum member
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2011, 04:09:37 PM »

Everyone here already has a vast vocabulary of profanities, obscenities, curse and swear words, so you already know my opinion on the topic.
Logged

Slow Down Music - Where I commit thought crimes...

Freedom is the right to be wrong, not the right to do wrong. - John Diefenbaker
Stoic Joker
Honorary Member
**
Posts: 5,313



View Profile WWW Give some DonationCredits to this forum member
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2011, 04:51:45 PM »

Everyone here already has a vast vocabulary of profanities, obscenities, curse and swear words, so you already know my opinion on the topic.

 Sad But you do it so well...  Sad
Logged
Renegade
Charter Member
***
Posts: 11,609



Tell me something you don't know...

see users location on a map View Profile WWW Give some DonationCredits to this forum member
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2011, 05:06:34 PM »

Everyone here already has a vast vocabulary of profanities, obscenities, curse and swear words, so you already know my opinion on the topic.

 Sad But you do it so well...  Sad

I'm really trying to be more positive and avoid ranting. I'd rather rave about great products and services than scream about bad ones and evil companies. There's just nothing very good to say about Apple. Sad
Logged

Slow Down Music - Where I commit thought crimes...

Freedom is the right to be wrong, not the right to do wrong. - John Diefenbaker
zridling
Friend of the Site
Charter Member
***
Posts: 3,291


Linux captive

see users location on a map View Profile WWW Read user's biography. Give some DonationCredits to this forum member
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2011, 05:43:06 PM »

I'm really trying to be more positive and avoid ranting. I'd rather rave about great products and services than scream about bad ones and evil companies. There's just nothing very good to say about Apple.

I'm kind of bummed with the corporate colonization of the net.* The desktop is an anachronism, and it seems like laptops will follow. Yet, I'm perfectly welcome by Facebook, Apple, Microsoft, Google, and various telcos to keep throwing money through my debit card just to access more and more content.

-- Want objective news? Pick your bias and pay for the opinions you want to hear.
-- Want an education? Pick your school and buy the degree; doesn't matter whether it's accredited or not, businesses know you didn't study and aren't prepared.
-- Want music or books? Pay per view through a proprietary device that either locks-in or loses your purchases on purpose.
-- Want a phone? Then your every move and call has long been tracked and sold for profit.
-- Going to court? Every piece of tech you use is used against you to convict you. (Great for catching bad guys, but why does it make the good guys feel like a criminal?)

*Maybe I need a vacation from the web. I'm starting to get too pissy about these things.
Logged

- zaine (on Google+)
Stoic Joker
Honorary Member
**
Posts: 5,313



View Profile WWW Give some DonationCredits to this forum member
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2011, 06:05:06 PM »

Everyone here already has a vast vocabulary of profanities, obscenities, curse and swear words, so you already know my opinion on the topic.

 Sad But you do it so well...  Sad

I'm really trying to be more positive and avoid ranting. I'd rather rave about great products and services than scream about bad ones and evil companies. There's just nothing very good to say about Apple. Sad

Understood, but you had mentioned in another thread that you were curious about how much of the iTracking story was actually true/hype. So I was hoping to get your take on how well the patent story/angle held water (e.g. I know shit about patents).

The highlight of your rants has always been (for me anyway) your extremely in-depth understanding of the architecture & detail provided, the whit is always good, and screaming fuck of course is optional. Wink
Logged
Renegade
Charter Member
***
Posts: 11,609



Tell me something you don't know...

see users location on a map View Profile WWW Give some DonationCredits to this forum member
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2011, 07:01:26 PM »

Everyone here already has a vast vocabulary of profanities, obscenities, curse and swear words, so you already know my opinion on the topic.

 Sad But you do it so well...  Sad

I'm really trying to be more positive and avoid ranting. I'd rather rave about great products and services than scream about bad ones and evil companies. There's just nothing very good to say about Apple. Sad

Understood, but you had mentioned in another thread that you were curious about how much of the iTracking story was actually true/hype. So I was hoping to get your take on how well the patent story/angle held water (e.g. I know shit about patents).

The highlight of your rants has always been (for me anyway) your extremely in-depth understanding of the architecture & detail provided, the whit is always good, and screaming fuck of course is optional. Wink

True - this pretty much nails Apple for a flat out black lie. It looks very much like they are more than guilty of everything they've been accused of, and more.

Looking at the patent briefly, it looks like nothing more than the normal, par for the course, average, every day common attempt to rape people/the patent system with obvious nonsense.

http://www.google.com/pat...location+aware+devices%22

For example:

Quote
8. The method of claim 1, where the database is included in the location aware device and is configured to be searchable by a user of the location aware device.

9. The method of claim 8, where the database is configured to be queried for at least a portion of the location history data.

Ahem, with respect to #8, in the "tech world", we call that functionality "SELECT".

With respect to #9, we call that functionality "WHERE".

Like
... How pathetic can you possibly get? This is not innovation. This is not "non-obvious". This is blatant crap.

Here's the patent (zipped PDF):

* 12_553_534_Location_Histories_for_Locati.zip (114.94 KB - downloaded 63 times.)

There's nothing novel in the patent application. It's all been done before in one form or another. C3 and C4i systems do a lot of that already, and they've been around for a long time. (Combat systems.)

But that's just the patent aspect of it. Like I said, another pathetic attempt to rape people through the patent system.

Then there are sites like "PatentlyApple.com":



Crap like that drives me batty.


And we haven't even gotten to to the ethical issues behind lying, cheating, and stealing...

(Reminds me of "Intolerance" by Tool.)



There are legitimate uses for location tracking. Location tracking is a good thing. It's the lying and deception that's the problem.

I've pointed out this exact issue before and how Samsung deals with it in their bada mobile operating system. They're up front about it. They put the user in complete control. The bada SDK has all of this stuff in it and you can do it all -- but ONLY after you've been vetted by Samsung, come up with a user-friendly privacy agreement, and had you application tested. Samsung is doing this exact same thing the right way. That's fine. Apple is NOT doing this the right way. They're being sneaky, deceptive
.


Sigh... You had to go and set me off, didn't you~! cheesy tongue
Logged

Slow Down Music - Where I commit thought crimes...

Freedom is the right to be wrong, not the right to do wrong. - John Diefenbaker
Stoic Joker
Honorary Member
**
Posts: 5,313



View Profile WWW Give some DonationCredits to this forum member
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2011, 09:34:38 PM »

Under the circumstances I'd of been happy with just the first paragraph ... But I guess it is hard to just tap the ball... smiley
Logged
Renegade
Charter Member
***
Posts: 11,609



Tell me something you don't know...

see users location on a map View Profile WWW Give some DonationCredits to this forum member
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2011, 10:14:25 PM »

Under the circumstances I'd of been happy with just the first paragraph ... But I guess it is hard to just tap the ball... smiley

Hahahah~! smiley

They could have been honest about it, but they weren't. Like what is wrong with those people?

Location based services are a great idea.

As a simple example, just imagine what LBS could do when tied into car sensors -- you know where you went, how fast, and what your fuel levels were at each point. WOW~! Now you've got a MASSIVE data set that can tell you which routes cost more to drive and which routes are going to save you fuel, which in turn reduces emissions and results in a more environmentally friendly car.

LBS is a great thing. Tracking can be very good.

But nobody wants the Electric Eyew...

Quote
"Electric Eye" is an allusion to the book Nineteen Eighty-Fourw by George Orwell, in the use of the name of the pseudo-omnniscient satellite that watches over the community at all times. In this dystopia, the form of government, Ingsoc (Newspeak for English Socialism), is utterly totalitarian, and if citizens are caught rebelling in any manner, they "disappear". The song has been called "prescient" for its depiction of a modern surveillance state.




Yes. I just compared Apple to 1984. If the shoe fits...
Logged

Slow Down Music - Where I commit thought crimes...

Freedom is the right to be wrong, not the right to do wrong. - John Diefenbaker
Deozaan
Charter Member
***
Posts: 6,414



see users location on a map View Profile WWW Read user's biography. Give some DonationCredits to this forum member
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2011, 10:50:28 PM »

Too funny! The above gawker link locked up my iPhone twice when I tried to read it! My client just tried it on her's. Same result.

I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing because there's a PDF file embedded in the site.
Logged

Renegade
Charter Member
***
Posts: 11,609



Tell me something you don't know...

see users location on a map View Profile WWW Give some DonationCredits to this forum member
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2011, 11:04:22 PM »

Too funny! The above gawker link locked up my iPhone twice when I tried to read it! My client just tried it on her's. Same result.

I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing because there's a PDF file embedded in the site.

And we all know Steve Jobs LOOOOOOVES Adobe~!  Kiss
Logged

Slow Down Music - Where I commit thought crimes...

Freedom is the right to be wrong, not the right to do wrong. - John Diefenbaker
Renegade
Charter Member
***
Posts: 11,609



Tell me something you don't know...

see users location on a map View Profile WWW Give some DonationCredits to this forum member
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2011, 11:05:33 PM »

Here's something I found funny:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/n...uncement_of_the_Year.html

A user comment:

Quote
Intel is making significant technology news all the time. They are so cutting-edge all the time. But in a good way, not like Apple, that causes anxiety and overwhelming feelings.

Hahahahahahahahaahahahahaha~!  cheesy  Cool
Logged

Slow Down Music - Where I commit thought crimes...

Freedom is the right to be wrong, not the right to do wrong. - John Diefenbaker
Pages: [1]   Go Up
  Reply  |  New Topic  |  Print  
 
Jump to:  
   Forum Home   Thread Marks Chat! Downloads Search Login Register  

DonationCoder.com | About Us
DonationCoder.com Forum | Powered by SMF
[ Page time: 0.048s | Server load: 0.04 ]