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Last post Author Topic: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016  (Read 158962 times)

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CHS - Access violation at address 0080DF94 - Read of address 00000008.
« Reply #275 on: January 07, 2016, 08:14:23 AM »
On 2015-05-09 using CHS v2.29.0, I got a spurious error:
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Access violation at address 0080DF94 in module
'ClipboardHeIpAndSpeII.exe'. Read of address 00000008.

I was busy editing notes in CHS at the time.
The error did not stop the CHS process, but I closed CHS down and restarted it anyway, just in case, and then got CHS to Verify, Repair, Optimize database .
_________________________

I can better define this problem now: (see image below - actual text copy is in the spoiler below that)

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In CHS, if you leave the cursor inside one or any (not sure if it applies to ALL) of the fields in the Grid pane, and then do a search, then the below Read of address 00000008 error occurs.
In the example below, I had left the cursor inside the Notes field when I did the search.
It seems to make no difference whether the field involved is in a record which is included as one of the search results.
This is a repeatable, non-fatal error.

Screen clipping taken: 2016-01-06 21:16
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   Clipboard Help+Spell
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   Access violation at address 0080E8C8 in module
   'ClipboardHelpAndSpell.exe'. Read of address 00000008.
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   OK   
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« Last Edit: January 07, 2016, 09:00:58 AM by IainB »

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Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
« Reply #276 on: January 07, 2016, 08:17:07 AM »
Nice work  :up: :up: :up:

I can confirm and reproduce this bug.. It's wonderful that you figured out a reliable way to trigger it, because now I can fix it  :Thmbsup:

Will try to get out an update this week.

Thanks IainB, both for finding the bug and for your good natured spirit about the hunt!

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Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
« Reply #277 on: January 07, 2016, 08:46:32 AM »
^ You're welcome - and thanks right back to you.   :Thmbsup:
I quite enjoy analysing software problems - if I use that software for my own purposes. It can only tend to benefit myself in the longer term.
I only tripped over it by chance, whilst doing some serious experimentation/discovery with CHS, I felt pleased to have finally found a consistent explanation of the trigger.

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v2.36.0 BETA - May 13, 2016
  • [MinorFeature] Added option (Tweaks tab) to disable default behavior of focusing search edit box when toggling display of main window.
  • [MinorFeature] Added option (Interface tab) to not flash/change tray icon when copying clips.
  • [MinorChange] Changed the default values on the maintenance tab to wait longer before moving clips from New to Old section and from Old to Recycle bin.
  • [MinorBugFix] You can now search for - as a single character.
  • [BugFix] Fixed bug where clip title edit field could temporarily disappear if previous clip was an image and window was minimized before capturing a text clip.

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Thanks for the update, but I am getting this when I try to update using the FARR DCUppdater (yes, is the correct spelling):

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I haven't figured out what the problem is yet.

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Not sure why you are getting that error BUT:
  • This is a Clipboard Help and Spell update, not a FARR update.
  • This is a beta release, not available via the updater or shown on any update check -- just available for download at the BETA link on first post.

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Ach, I'm half asleep, got no sleep last night.
As to the error message, for always I have had CHS set up as one of several FARR plugins and so that when I run DcUppdater ("Check for updates now" from the standard FARR Help menu), it checks for latest version updates for FARR and all plugins at the same time - updating whatever is listed in the Installables folder - in one hit. I've never seen that error message before, so thought I should mention it. I haven't figured out the root cause yet, but, as I only recently migrated FARR to this new (refurbished) laptop that I am using, I suspect that I may have inadvertently fouled up the FARR DcUppdater settings or not set it "PORTABLE" or something.    :-[
As for it being a CHS Beta update, my apologies - I was in too much of a hurry and did not read the post properly and thus did not register that this latest CHS version was a Beta update. I have now updated it separately via the opening post to this thread.

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[BugFix] Fixed bug where clip title edit field could temporarily disappear if previous clip was an image and window was minimized before capturing a text clip.
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Thought I should mention this: I noticed by chance in one instance the other day that, when the condition arose where the clip title edit field did happen to temporarily disappear, I chanced to inadvertently restore it by maximising and then minimizing the CHS window.

Since I can't make that condition arise to order, I was unable to test for consistency/repeatability.

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Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
« Reply #283 on: September 11, 2016, 09:50:21 PM »
Read of address 00000008.

I received an Access violation - Read of address 00000008 and found this thread.
Got the error when doing a search - program continued to work after closing  the error boxes.

You message shows  v2.36.0 BETA - May 13, 2016
I can not locate it on our site.

I am running v2.34.0 and it is the only one i see for download.

Thanks, excellent program.
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Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
« Reply #284 on: September 11, 2016, 10:17:06 PM »
Just found link to Beta 2.36 on the first page. I did not see it originally because my search took me to page 12.
http://www.donationc...pandspell/index.html
Shows 2.34

Forum CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016

Please post a sticky with current Beta so it is easy to find.

Thanks, excellent program.
Vietnamrum

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Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
« Reply #285 on: October 01, 2016, 07:10:11 PM »
I have never tried CHS but I'm just wondering, how is CHS's performance once the database gets large such as 400MB+?

The reason I'm asking is because I have a ClipCache Pro database of that size, and ClipCache is painfully slow now with any operation involving that database.

My laptop is reasonably powerful (core i7 5500U, 16GB RAM).

Basically I'm wondering if CHS could handle working with databases of this size better. E.g. I wanted to delete the larger clippings there, or put them into folders by year, but everything is so slow (freezes) that it's just not feasible with ClipCache.

The other thing I'm wondering if it's at all possible to import a ClipCache database into CHS.

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Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
« Reply #286 on: October 02, 2016, 07:16:24 PM »
@dr_andus: I'd be interested in any CHS performance factors/limitations you may discover on this. Please could you post your results here, as and when any turn up?

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Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
« Reply #287 on: October 03, 2016, 05:01:27 AM »
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how is CHS's performance once the database gets large such as 400MB+?

That's a good question, but i don't know the answer.. If there is interest we could find out -- I could write a function that generates some random clip data and we can see how it performs.

My suspicion is that, assuming the clips are in different "folders", so that it's not trying to sort and search 400mb of data at a time, that CHS will perform pretty well, but that's just my guess.  It's also quite possible that it performs very similarly to ClipCache... A factor involved here is how many clips there are (a relatively small number of large clips will perform better i would guess than a million clips).

What I will say is that CHS does try to "help" you not accumulate 400mb worth of clip data, by employing configurable options that will automatically move default (non-favorited) captured clips by default from new to old to trash groups.

As for importing, CHS doesn't have a way to import clips (though it can export them).  I would be willing to write a simple import function if you can get your data out of your existing program in a fairly clean and simple format.  The easiest would be one line per clip, with a line being just the clip text, no extra data like date, etc.

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Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
« Reply #288 on: October 03, 2016, 05:24:23 AM »
Hi mouser - thanks for your reply.

There doesn't seem to be an export function in ClipCache (and it can only import its own older version files).

Yes, the problem is that I have now one mega folder with 46,375 clips accumulated over 4 years, ranging in size from a couple of bytes to 16MB. No matter how I sort it or what I try to do with it, it now takes minutes to complete every operation (such as sort by size or date or search).

This was not by design. I just never had the patience to figure out the app and develop a workflow. Instead, it just runs in the background and saves every clip. This might not be an optimal workflow but it has the advantage that I can find things that I never knew I had (such when I find that I lost a bit of text somewhere ages ago and then I find a copy of it in ClipCache, which is a godsend).

So for me this is a backup solution, as none of my other backups protect me from some apps truncating text while I'm working on it or from me accidentally deleting text. The clipboard memory can be a last resort in finding lost stuff.

I guess I just have to start a new database, so that the current one stops growing.

Don't trouble yourself with the import script. I'll just need to take CHS for a test drive, as I'm curious about those rules you mentioned. Though I wouldn't want to defeat the unconscious backup function.

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Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
« Reply #289 on: October 03, 2016, 08:00:57 AM »
I'll just need to take CHS for a test drive, as I'm curious about those rules you mentioned. Though I wouldn't want to defeat the unconscious backup function.

You can stop it deleting anything.
I do remember having some performance issues some years back when I had everything being saved (unfortunately I cant find any record of it). I think it better as mouser says to group older clips in folders maybe by date.
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Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.34.0 - Jan 4, 2016
« Reply #290 on: October 03, 2016, 08:45:26 AM »
@Tom - thanks for the suggestion. Though it's now too late for my 400MB file (it would be just too painful to try to restructure it now), going forward I'll try to use folders by year or month.