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Last post Author Topic: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.39.0 - Dec 22, 2016  (Read 165024 times)

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Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.38.0 BETA - Dec 16, 2016
« Reply #300 on: December 22, 2016, 03:54:10 AM »
I'd really love to hear some more reports that the beta works well before I release it officially..

just installed and using in my usual very basic manner -- does seem much more responsive; everything working fine so far :up:
Windows 7 x64

For the record:
I have WinAnti-Ransom [WAR] installed. It blocks every install: normally I click the Allow button, run the exe again, and it works fine.
CHS extracts to a different temp folder every times it's run, so keeps getting blocked by WAR (as the previous 'Allow' was for a different path).  I had to disable it in order to install.
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Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.39.0 - Dec 22, 2016
« Reply #301 on: December 22, 2016, 08:09:51 PM »
New official (non-beta) release:

v2.39.0 - Dec 22, 2016
  • [Improvement] Significantly improved performance when browsing through clips and adding new clips.
  • [Improvement] Home and End keys now go to top and bottom of grid.
  • [Improvement] New option to not update last view date of clips when browsing (better performance).
  • [Improvement] Path to database folder now shown in options dialog on Database Backup tab.
  • [NewFeature] You can now set custom printer font for printing clips.
« Last Edit: December 22, 2016, 08:29:48 PM by mouser »

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Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.39.0 - Dec 22, 2016
« Reply #302 on: December 23, 2016, 05:48:48 AM »
@mouser: Thanks. I have dl CHS v3.29 (portable ,ZIP version) and it's going fine.

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Re: CHS LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - "invisible" Title pasting error.
« Reply #303 on: December 25, 2016, 06:07:03 PM »
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The text in the clip is in the spoiler:
Spoiler
I had just selected the default Title "NOTE" and pasted over it with the clipboard string: "Words and Phrases to Lose in 2017" - which was the article title for the URL saved in the Memo pane.
Note the string is invisible in the Title in the Memo pane, though it is visible (correctly) in the Grid pane.
This was the second instance - the first was in the
lower clip in the Grid. It is inconsistently repeatable, but happens often. The invisible string will appear in the Title field in the Memo pane after a re-sort.


@mouser: This non-fatal, episodic error first occurred some time ago in CHS v3.6, and as it was a minor annoyance I did not think to mention it until today (using CHS v3.9) - when I recalled your request for feedback.
So I took the time to repeat it after its first occurrence today - just to see if I could repeat it - and I was able to do so, per the screenshot above.
I had never bothered before, because it was a minor issue.

However, it is an inconsistently repeatable error, as I can't make it occur every time I try, so I have not yet figured out the exact conditions to force it to happen, though it only seems to happen when something has been pasted (not typed) into the Title field in the Memo pane - whereupon the text "NOTE" in the Title field is cleared/deleted, but the pasted string is not yet displayed.

The "invisible" Title text of the changed clip in the Memo pane only becomes visible after the clips have been re-arranged in the Grid display, which can happen if the user clicks on one of the other clips in the Grid (whereupon the clip just edited is moved to the bottom of the Grid), or re-sorts the Grid. Either of those actions seems to force the CHS GUI display to be updated/re-displayed. I think that probably indicates that the bug may simply be due to a delay in displaying whatever is in the relevant display output buffer for the Title field in the Memo pane.

An additional note (may be relevant):
I am experiencing this error more frequently now, because I have changed my work processes to work around the problem of CHS not capturing the URL metadata of text clipped from some web browsers. I am now usually using Slimjet (a Chrome-based browser), and CHS does not capture the URL metadata of clips from Chrome browsers (though it is always captured in the Clipboard).

So I now have a frequently-used tedious manual workaround consisting of these steps:
  • Select the text in the web page to be copied.
  • Press CTRL+C (copies the text to the clipboard).
  • Press CTRL+L (selects the URL in the address pane).
  • Press CTRL+C (copies the URL to the clipboard).
  • Open CHS main screen.
  • Mouse-select the relevant clip for Step 2 in the Grid.
  • Mouse-select the Notes column field for that clip in the Grid.
  • Press CTRL+V (copies the URL to the Notes field for that clip).
  • Mouse-select a point in the text of that clip in the Memo pane to place the cursor where I want to insert the URL also.
  • Press CTRL+V (copies the URL into the Memo pane at the cursor-point selected).
  • Select some of the text in the Memo pane for that clip, to use as a Title.
  • Press CTRL+C (copies the text selected to the clipboard).
  • Mouse-select the Title text (default is "NOTE") of that clip in the Memo pane.
  • Press CTRL+V (pastes the current text from the clipboard over the Title text selected).
  • IT IS AT THIS POINT that the Title text just goes blank (per screenshot above).
« Last Edit: December 25, 2016, 07:21:16 PM by IainB »

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Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.39.0 - Dec 22, 2016
« Reply #304 on: January 16, 2017, 01:04:17 PM »
Can I get an update about this bug -- is it still happening?

The latest version of CHS seems to have been a great success in terms of speed improvements.  I would like to squash any remaining oddities..

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Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.39.0 - Dec 22, 2016
« Reply #305 on: January 17, 2017, 12:04:45 AM »
@mouser: To answer your Q, from my perspective:
The described episodic and non-fatal CHS problem of tardy display of the Title text copied/pasted into the Memo pane is still occurring - e.g., I noticed it sometimes occurring yesterday, whilst I was doing  a fair amount of clipping and editing in CHS.

As I think I have already pointed out, the problem is nothing new, having been observed by me for a long time and on different laptops and versions of Windows. Because it is episodic, it would probably only be observed by people who were - like me - periodically engaged in doing a lot of editing of clip Titles, with the Title text being copied/pasted into the Memo pane, from the same or another existing clip. Even then, unless the user was - like me - an analytical user accusomed to testing software, the problem might well pass unnoticed.

Similarly with the tooth-grindingly chronic, laggy scrolling refresh timing problem, it seems. Fortunately, that seems to have been almost fully fixed now (thankyou very much!), with CHS most of the time now being/feeling blazingly fast by comparison with its earlier performance levels. Such a great improvement. I am now getting the sub-second response times I would expect and like to get from CHS on my computer system. As one inevitably becomes accustomed to this new, faster level of ergonomic performance, it of course reduces one's tolerance/expectations for delays even further, so that I can now very occasionally perceive those very brief, almost imperceptible, and intermittent lags that might still manifest for some so far inexplicable reason. These are minor imperfections. It's all about "better. faster, bigger or smaller", I suppose.

Two things that I have thought might be desirable improvements:
  • (a) In addition to the existing fixed or variable text strings that can be inserted into the clip Title field, for my purposes at least it could be useful for the Title field to be able to be filled by the first "n" characters in the string of the first line of text in a clip (set as a default user parameter). This could be a time-saver.
  • (b) The Notes field to always automatically include the source URL for clips captured from any web browser. This currently only seems to work in CHS if the browser is Firefox, or something, despite the Clipboard apparently always containing that metadata anyway. This too could be a time-saver.

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Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL v2.39.0 - "invisible" Title pasting error.
« Reply #306 on: January 20, 2017, 10:36:29 PM »
I have accidentally discovered how to consistently reproduce this obscure "error" - except it is NOT an error at all, as CHS seems to be doing exactly what it was probably designed to do.

What I have "discovered" is that the Title field in the Memo pane seems to be able to accept multiple lines of pasted text, including line feeds - I'm not sure what the max text limit might be.
So, if you copy a string which has an invisible linefeed character embedded at the end and then paste it into the Title field in the Memo pane, the result will be as follows:
  • (a) The text and the line feed are pasted in correctly to the Memo pane and the cursor in the Title field rests at the last character displayed - which is the line feed - thus the preceding text will have been scrolled up (out of sight) and the invisible line feed character is all that the user "sees" in the Title field window of the Memo pane.

  • (b) In the Grid pane, the first line of the the Title text string is displayed.

Thus, when the Memo pane is refreshed, the Title field then reverts to displaying just the first line of text, as was already being displayed in the Grid pane. So, the apparent delay in displaying the first line of text is not a delay at all.

Far from it being an "error", I would suggest that this is an undocumented feature of CHS which could be turned into a rather useful feature for users of CHS, by the simple expedient of making the Title field window in the Memo pane able to be draggable-down by the user, so as to expand its depth to display "n" more lines of title text, as may be required by the user.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2017, 10:41:33 PM by IainB »

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Re: CLIPBOARD HELP+SPELL LATEST VERSION INFO THREAD - v2.39.0 - Dec 22, 2016
« Reply #307 on: January 21, 2017, 08:17:50 AM »
awesome find. nice to have another mystery solved.
but i'd consider that a bug -- you shouldn't be able to have a title with newlines in it. I will fix.