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Last post Author Topic: The conflict of interest that is Google  (Read 37259 times)

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Re: The conflict of interest that is Google
« Reply #125 on: March 21, 2015, 06:14:51 AM »
That's rich!

Actually, while it is funny as hell, the Onion's usual tinge of truth makes it just a little painful to laugh much at it. And so my abject hate of all things Goldman Sachs grows ever stronger!

Thanks.

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Re: The conflict of interest that is Google
« Reply #126 on: March 21, 2015, 12:50:54 PM »
From slashdot:

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from: http://tech.slashdot...h-results-for-profit

I'm glad someone posted it.

Google is a leader, part of an oligopoly - if it isn't a monopoly - and can probably do whatever the heck it wants, with impunity.
Unfortunately, when one tries to address the apparent causal problem (i.e., Capitalism), one runs smack into the brick wall that other economic ideologies seem to have done - e.g., the Communist/Socialist "command economy" system.

One thing that drives me up the wall is "capitalism". Google is in bed with the state everywhere, and what they do can hardly be called "capitalism" if one believes that "capitalism" means free markets. It's a twisted form of fascism, which is at least better than communism/socialism in some ways, but still degenerate.

Just stumbled upon this as a good example of this sort of thing:
“Wall Street Firm Develops New High-Speed Algorithm Capable Of Performing Over 10,000 Ethical Violations Per Second”

Sadly, it's not far from the truth. :(

That's rich!

Actually, while it is funny as hell, the Onion's usual tinge of truth makes it just a little painful to laugh much at it. And so my abject hate of all things Goldman Sachs grows ever stronger!

The Onion is less fake news than prediction. You can literally go back and look at older articles, then go ahead a few years and see it in reality. It's sad. :(

Spain taxed the sun. The sun. Taxed it. Really. Not a joke. Not fake. Spain really in reality taxes the sun.

Can you imagine this in a title from The Onion?

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In a Response to Spain Taxing the Sun, Italy Taxes Shadows

Yes - it would seem like insanity. But it's true. Italy is now taxing shadows. In reality. For realz. No joke.

http://www.zerohedge...e-now-taxing-shadows

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As Italian newspaper Leggo reports, store owners in Conegliano are now faced with the unfortunate (albeit comically absurd) proposition of paying taxes on shadows.

The rationale appears to go something like this: an awning casts a shadow on public property and therefore you must pay to use that property.

The really screwed up thing here is that the sun actually wears down materials (in this case sidewalks), and shading them preserves them. So, if anything, the "tax" should be in reverse.

So, for Google and the FCC, this isn't much of a surprise. There's nothing that's beyond belief.

Google has some great services, but... FFS... They need to clean up a bit.

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Re: The conflict of interest that is Google
« Reply #127 on: March 21, 2015, 05:53:32 PM »
Staying on topic, another take on the google article:

Google reportedly blackmailed websites into giving it content for free

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According to the report, for one example, Google took content from companies like Yelp, TripAdvisor, and Amazon. In the latter case, Google lifted product rankings and placed them in their own search results for those products. When the companies complained to Google about the process, Google threatened to remove them entirely from results. The Journal quotes this section of the report: "It is clear that Google’s threat was intended to produce, and did produce, the desired effect, which was to coerce Yelp and TripAdvisor into backing down." The Commission ultimately had Google agree to let websites opt out of the process.

http://www.theverge....ed-anti-trust-report

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Re: The conflict of interest that is Google
« Reply #128 on: March 22, 2015, 06:29:49 AM »
^ Classic monopolistic behaviour.

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Re: The conflict of interest that is Google
« Reply #129 on: March 31, 2015, 09:18:53 PM »
With Apologies to Murphy.

If something can be abused, it will.

Google new motto should be in the lines of
"Do not GET CAUGHT while doing evil."
« Last Edit: March 31, 2015, 10:32:15 PM by rxantos »

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Re: The conflict of interest that is Google
« Reply #130 on: April 01, 2015, 01:48:43 AM »
With Apologies to Murphy.

If something can be abused, it will.

Google new motto should be in the lines of
"Do not GET CAUGHT while doing evil."

It's getting worse!

"Something will be abused. There is no whether, because anything can be abused with sufficient malice. If you have failed to abuse something, apply more malice."

"Actual worry about getting caught doesn't even always apply. The corps have moved on to playing "talk to the hand" to the government. IF they take sanctions, ignore them. That's because they are under the silly impression that laws matter!"

Now excuse me while I go abuse something else!
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Re: The conflict of interest that is Google
« Reply #131 on: April 01, 2015, 09:51:16 AM »
Lord Acton was right... "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

Almost right.

Power corrupts, but blind obedience corrupts the most.

Stalin was just one man after all. Nothing without the useful idiots.  There is even a study on how 9 out of 10 people will obey an order to harm someone else if an authority figure tells them to do so. And the experiment was further corroborated by others, so pretty much is scientific proof that the majority of people act like sheep. And the sheep mentality is what enables the biggest evils in the world. Ranging to the "we where just following orders" crew. To the "I will not do shit and let evil thrive because Jesus will come for me" crew. And the all popular rational coward crew "I know that is wrong, but I will get affected if I do not obey".

I would say that less than 10% of the people goes into the. "I do not care if is convenient or not, or any threats you make, wrong is wrong and I will have no part of it." And less than 1% would say this is wrong, and I will fight you no mater the cost. Victory or Sovngarde :) (Those who played Skyrim know the reference).

The not so funny thing is that the majority of the sheep will help the tyrant send that 1% to Sovngarde. So the main threat is the sheep not the tyrant. The "let's help the tyrant extort more resources, spend 90% of them on himself so he will throw us a bone." crew.

In the case of Google, they are corrupt. But the problem is not their corruption, the power is the corruption of those who blindly follow Google. Without people taking the search engine seriously, they are nothing. Without the people accepting their policies they are nothing.

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Re: The conflict of interest that is Google
« Reply #132 on: April 01, 2015, 11:11:54 AM »
^Nailed it!

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Re: The conflict of interest that is Google
« Reply #133 on: June 29, 2015, 08:09:34 PM »
Another article on google leveraging search to self-promote: