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Author Topic: IDEA: Minimized Apps Render As Desktop Icons  (Read 9883 times)

kingsmob77

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IDEA: Minimized Apps Render As Desktop Icons
« on: October 23, 2009, 02:53 PM »
OK, I hope I can explain this one though even if I can, it very well may turn out to be outside the scope of coding snacks.

My inspiration for this idea comes from two sources:
The Blackbox for Windows plugin - bbDeskMinimize and the freeware application - DM2's "Minimize to Floating Icon" feature.

In bbDeskMinimze, all minimized apps are rendered as icons on the desktop.  However, they are limited in style by the BB engine and look pretty block.  Also, the position is static, the only movement facilitated via the .rc file.

Here are some exaples of bbDeskMinimize:

bbLean with bbDeskMinimize - Firefox and Notepad windows both open


bbLean with bbDeskMinimize - Firefox minized to icon and Notepad open


bbLean with bbDeskMinimize - Firefox and Notepad Windows both minimized to Icons


DM2 minimizes app from a custom menu on the title bar of a window. The app is minimized to an opaque square without a caption.  Also you have little control over where they spawn or placement.  While it is more control that the bbLean plugin, it is still limiting.

Neither of these quite fites the bill as I am not using bbLean right now and the DM2 functionality doesn't quite do what I want and has a lot of quirky behavior that makes it less than desirable.

Here is an example of the DM2 functionality:

Screenshot from the about section of the DM2 website


What I would like is an app that allows you to choose between minimizing all windows to icons or selecting individual icons.  I would like the appearance and manipulation to be more like a native windows DT icon.  With a caption and the ability to drag the icons around the desktop.  Double clicking would open the application.

Extra points would be custom labels per shortcut and/or custom icons per shortcut.

Does that make sense?  If it would help, I could whip up some mock ups of the application to give a better idea of what I'm thinking.  Also, I have the source for the bbDeskMinimize plugin.  It's open source so I could upload it here for reference.

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« Last Edit: October 23, 2009, 03:11 PM by kingsmob77 »

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Re: IDEA: Minimized Apps Render As Desktop Icons
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2009, 03:13 PM »
Uhh, I probably should have posted this to the "Post New Requests Here" topic.  Sorry about that.  Moderators, feel free to move the topic if appropriate.
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Re: IDEA: Minimized Apps Render As Desktop Icons
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2009, 11:05 AM »
Moderators, feel free to move the topic if appropriate.
I guess they did.  ;)

I like it, sounds like a great idea. Especially if there is some way to hide all other desktop icons and switch between the two views (desktop and minimised views). I suppose you could then jettison most of the taskbar...
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Re: IDEA: Minimized Apps Render As Desktop Icons
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2009, 01:09 PM »
I'm not sure about the "floating" part but I think Windows 3.1 minimized to the desktop something like that.  Even now when I try to use a component on a Delphi program to hide it to the task tray, if the state gets confused it can minimize to the desktop just above the taskbar.  How to do it deliberately though I have no clue.

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Re: IDEA: Minimized Apps Render As Desktop Icons
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2009, 02:05 PM »
You know, now that you mention it, I also remember 3.1 working like that.  Hard to tell for sure, that was a loooong time ago.

I think I set up a 3.1 VM and see is this is the case.

Either way, I do think this would be a very cool app. 
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Re: IDEA: Minimized Apps Render As Desktop Icons
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2009, 08:52 AM »
No one interested in this one?

C'maon, it would be totally cool.  :D
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Re: IDEA: Minimized Apps Render As Desktop Icons
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2009, 10:49 AM »
I don't know if you're a programmer at all but I think the issue here is that this is not nearly as easy as it might seem.

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Re: IDEA: Minimized Apps Render As Desktop Icons
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2009, 10:57 AM »
Outside of Chrome apps and Prism, it's a cool idea but I have to wonder whether this is worth doing.

Why would the desktop be ergonomically better than say a systray icon or a drawer panel or a dock?

Edit:

There's something like this in KDE but I haven't tried it and I'm not really a programmer:

http://www.gnome-loo...enlet?content=102890
« Last Edit: November 23, 2009, 11:03 AM by Paul Keith »

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Re: IDEA: Minimized Apps Render As Desktop Icons
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2009, 05:35 PM »
I don't know if you're a programmer at all but I think the issue here is that this is not nearly as easy as it might seem.

Another consideration is if a user employs a minimize control application, like WinTray or some commercial one, everything is likely to get very confused.  Explorer crashes are likely.