Paul, I'm not entirely sure how to respond. Your concept of touching, or nearly touching the monitor for regular interaction just seems impractical to me. Why? Think about ergonomics: http://ergonomics.ab...computer_setup_2.htm Note that it says to place your monitor *at least* 20 inches from yourself. Now my arm is 25-26" to the tips of my fingers. My hand by itself, from wrist to the tip of my long middle finger is about 8 inches. So that means I'd be holding my arm out fully extended trying to manipulate things *all day long*. That's going to quickly get tiring, and develop into some kind of RSI quite soon, I'm sure.
JavaJones, look at your previous criticisms. You never brought this up and instead used such words as "arm waving", 90% too far away and fingerprints on the edge of the screen.
It's disingenuous of you to switch arguments constantly without acknowledging first how silly and mistaken your original arguments were.
Most importantly, impractical is a far cry from silly.
It's even disingenuous to say it would be quickly tiring when part of the reason people get Carpal Tunnel Syndrome is because keyboard positions and mouse positions are not adapted to prevent fatigue.
Ergonomics equals comfort and has very little to do with fatigue.
In fact, if you actually were thinking of that screenshot then you would realize how unergonomic touchpads can be.
Can you imagine how frustrating it would be to accidentally swipe a pad because of the constraints of space if you were to have a pad jutting out of that keyboard or a pad where instead of the shape of the mouse alleviating discomfort from your wrist, you are forced to lie your palm flat on a surface even if we're talking un-even surfaces?
You also forgot the ergonomic factor that if you don't want to use monitor sensors, you just cover it. Don't want to use touchpads? Need to pull it out and replace it with a mouse.
No offense intended but it seems to me that it sounds impractical to you because you are trying to pigeonhole the sensors into something it's not. The 10Gui is not replacing keyboards here. It is replacing the mouse.
Your argument would be the equivalent of saying it is going to be quickly tiring to rest/constantly move your hands on the mouse because you can't rest both of your hands on the keyboard.
Maybe your monitor is closer than mine (and closer than recommended), but if you're conforming to ergonomic guidelines then I don't see how your idea is functional. And certainly no one would want to build a fundamental interaction device for a computer that inherently defies guidelines for ergonomic computer setups.
Any touchpad no matter how superior inherently defies guidelines for ergonomic computer setups.
That's why mostly artist has adapted to tablet pcs while many have not. Without reprioritizing their computer goals, the ergonomics of the tablet pc isn't there.
This holds the same for laptop touchpads and I've seen many insert a mouse because it is so un-ergonomic.
In fact, for the tasks of the 10Gui it is less un-ergonomic to play thumb chopsticks flat on a surface than it is to temporarily point your finger at the edge of the monitor just as it is no more un-ergonomic to push the power button of your monitor off than to whine how every monitor doesn't come with a remote because it is "too far" according to "guidelines for egonomic computer setups".
This may surprise you but the "Natal" video doesn't actually show very precise interaction. Try using that, or even the Wii interface, to precisely select a single word from a paragraph of text. That's the kind of UI interaction I deal with constantly on a daily basis, and anything that is going to replace my PC UI device has to be at least as good as the basic mouse in that regard.
This may also surprise you but the range of the Natal is so far compared to the fingers close to your monitor and we're talking about concept ideas here.
It is again a disingenuous red herring on your part to go from silly... impractical... no precedent for a UI...and now this!
You're a guy suggesting a touch surface to replace a mouse and you're using an example of precisely selecting a single word from a paragraph?!
Again, finger gestures are supposed to replace a "mouse" not a "keyboard".