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801  DonationCoder.com Software / Post New Requests Here / Re: Seeking advice: Cadillac of "ClipBoard Managers" for Serious Research on: February 10, 2014, 08:59:28 PM
Thanks to the above members TaoPhoenix, Tomos, Rjbull for offering suggestions.

Tomos asks what am I "managing" the data with.  That seems to really point to the crux of the issue.  Having used Clipboard Trap..., I have a 'shoebox' of long text files, each one with an assortment of topics.
Perhaps the focus of my query should NOT be with the clipboard manager point-in-time so much, but instead with "managing" the data.

I'm going to get aggressive once, and if I fail this time, I'll hold my piece. Esp since I now know that Demigod Kormanik is close at hand!

1. Stop using the word Clipboard. You added the new word "Shoebox". Let's empty the Shoebox.
2. Create your "Super Header/Overall Header/Main Header/Subtopic 1 2 3 4 5 6 7"
3. If it really is text files, go all Control-A SelectAll/Control-C Copy/Click to Node/Control-V Paste on them all

4. ETA is 17 minutes. If you don't have your entire shoebox of text files copied by then you're doing something wrong. Stopwatch starts in T-Minus-7 minutes for you to notice if  you are in fact still here, or later if you are one of those "post twice a day" fellows, (which I discourage in a lightning hot topic!)




+7 min ultra slack
+7 min to read
+17 min to actually do
802  DonationCoder.com Software / Post New Requests Here / Re: Seeking advice: Cadillac of "ClipBoard Managers" for Serious Research on: February 10, 2014, 08:11:59 PM
From my bad layman's understanding outside his scope, I think :

1. "Merge" mystifies me - if it's as simple as cut and paste, do it, because for me "merging research" involves moving stuff around. But if you need hyper-precise automated data merging, I think an intermediate script is called for here.

2. I don't think it has its own built in scripting to parse a page and capture, so it sounds like a lowtek script is needed to do that, and even later upload it unto MyInfo. To my Layman Non-Programmer mind that doesn't sound hard, but then printing PDF's off of Webpages is harder than it looks too. Maybe it depends on the inspiration.

3. I think we're edging into a "clash of the Killer Features". For me, the $100 app was that this one of only two the only program that could take all your data, and then "12 clicks later" produce this:


Remember you can adjust the relative pane sizes vs which pane really needs width.

*Minus 12 minutes because I like spaces in my filenames on Windows and that's not really best!

P.S. It's supposed to be expanded. I am working with the dev on that bug.  Just click the little + signs to expand.

803  DonationCoder.com Software / Post New Requests Here / Re: Seeking advice: Cadillac of "ClipBoard Managers" for Serious Research on: February 10, 2014, 07:51:03 PM
I'll recommend again my top choice I use myself for this stuff: "MyInfo".
TaoPhoenix, does MyInfo have hotkeys for adding Web pages and parts of Web pages, like RightNote does, or is it whole-page and mouse only?  Also, does it have a Merge feature, something I found useful with EverNote 2.2 (the old desktop app) for combining sections of Web pages?

Well, let's try this in a couple of replies!

You know you just posted a triple barreled question, didn't you? Didn't you? In a thread, asking about ... subtopics?

So since for this moment Nick Kormanik isn't "Lead Querent" and you are, I added more nodes, and hid his nodes, to produce "your structure". (Heh Hint. Programmer to Manager Application - if you have three managers and they want to know different things, you can hide the other stuff they don't care about and emphasize "that day's important stuff" to answer questions!)

So "What is adding a whole webpage"? Sometimes you can just add a link. That is, if you think the page will be stable. I Recommend Miles "BBSS" for that instead, and THEN pasted into MyInfo! But if you MUST have a whole webpage, and can live with a little format-squabbling between javascripts, I get this below by going all
Control-A Select All - Control C Copy - Click over to Node - Control V Paste.


InsertMenu / Insert Web Document might be there.

One down! : )

804  DonationCoder.com Software / Post New Requests Here / Re: Seeking advice: Cadillac of "ClipBoard Managers" for Serious Research on: February 10, 2014, 07:39:41 PM
^mightn't be a bad idea, but if he's looking for a clipboard manager, it would be good if any alternative could offer universal clipping and the ability in a dialogue to dictate where the clip goes (no idea if MyInfo offers that).

@Nicholas, what (if anything) are you using to manage the info?

I think I'm getting at that once we shift from the word "clipboard manager", then universally you copy something, and the same "actionspace" where you have to decide "where it goes", you click on the MyInfo Project node and then paste it.

For me the key is scale, Clipboard managers can even handle some 20 items, but then for me they fall flat pretty fast. Those things are best used for the top 20 most used things you always find yourself pasting.

Instead, he said research, hence my piping up. So Research is meant to be long term. And I emphasized that because research evolves, if you/he doesn't like the exact structure of the material, you can easily move it around in entire chunks. Up, down, sideways, make mirror copies, and more.

It's tied for "two winners" of a year long search I did a few years back on this stuff, with the only reason the other candidate failed being it emerged it had a fatal core bug but the killer export and other basic features were there.

And looping high back to that "what software would you pay for", ... it's only of only like three programs I have paid over $50 for.

805  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: A Point About Grammar on: February 10, 2014, 07:29:28 PM
Gosh, then the language has become rather like a local dialect. Mind you, American-English is arguably a dialect of received English anyway.

Actually to amuse you, I would like to suggest half seriously that "dialect" is a "space time" phenomenon! I am a partial "style empath" depending on what I am reading as a Project. (Not just a misc wiki entry, but when I really get into a Project of the Month.)

This Month the project is a writer called O. Henry. Y'all may have heard of him, but except for the five or so staple classics that always show up in English Class textbooks, I bet you haven't seen his real flair for a really "Heavy Narrator" and fondness for "Parallel Sentences" and such. He also so mastered his style that when he passed away, no one had the heart to try to best him at it for decades.

Nowadays the Heavy Narrator is frowned upon, though I've noticed Tom Clancy at it.

Let's try an example, modified (badly!) for the times:

Mouser was displeased. A man of less culture and poise but more wealth would have sworn out of arrogance. However, Mouser was more cultured, more poised, and less wealthy, and "Two out of Three Ain't Bad" is true, except the first two are MeatLoaf and meatloaf, making poor Mouser the third, and he was in a bad way.

His Thesis wasn't going well. All Genius is bestowed upon us by Karma Angels, but poor Mouser's Karma could not quite afford the highest grade Genius. He received just enough to become tantalized by the Higher Orders, but not yet to solve them. So while taking some time to ponder, an image of a little white bird crossed his luminescent mind.

So Mouser strapped some code to his hard drive, ordered a pizza, and set out to make his or somebody else's fortune with a software site designed upon begging with onion tears asking for donations. Thus TearyEyedProgrammer DonationCoder was born.

806  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: A Point About Grammar on: February 10, 2014, 07:07:39 PM
Am I the only one that's annoyed by the seemingly decreasing quality of language in "professional" news, articles and general writing?

I really don't care about people making mistakes in forums or informal writing. A lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and that's not a problem. What I find annoying is "professional" media that simply don't know how to use English properly.

* Statistical "outlyers". It's "outliers". Sigh...
* "mass nouns" -- They're called "countable" and "uncountable", not "mass".
* Verb agreement

The list goes on and on.

It's just jarring to get "hit" by grammar, spelling, and word choice mistakes that there really is no excuse for.

It's one thing for it to be "the odd time", but it's not. It's all the time.

Am I just super-anal? Is poor grammar really acceptable in professional media?

Naw, you're not going crazy Ren. "Professional" media took a hit with the rise of Bloggers and the Web mauling their cash cows of comics and classifieds and a few other things that *also* helped pay for a Few Good Men.

"Professional" blogs are really feeling the heat to "post or perish", and that's where for me the worst mistakes are seen to be made.

807  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content] on: February 10, 2014, 04:45:48 AM
Took me an eternity to understand.  Well done !

Well done indeed, though I had a hunch and first clicked on the "play arrow" that ... didn't play, and then right clicked and did "view image"!

I've seen a couple of these jokes before. : )

808  DonationCoder.com Software / Post New Requests Here / Re: Seeking advice: Cadillac of "ClipBoard Managers" for Serious Research on: February 10, 2014, 02:39:06 AM
For single topic clipboard saving I prefer Skwire's Clipboard Trap.

Presently, though, I'm researching an area with several sub-topics.

Let's assume 5 sub-topics.  We cruise the Internet reading this and that.  We come across an item we want to save to Sub-topic 1.  Copy and save.  Then we come across an item that belongs in Sub-topic 3.  Copy and save.  Etc. re Sub-topic 5, Sub-topic 2, Sub-topic 4.

I'm curious to hear views as to what might be the very best such research saving software presently available.

Greatly appreciate your input.

Nicholas Kormanik

Hi Nicholas,

As soon as we remove the term "Clipboard Manager" and go with your other term "Research Saving Software", I'll recommend again my top choice I use myself for this stuff: "MyInfo".

For certain structured research like what it sounds like you're doing, it's a good candidate match. Let's do one example in action.

Part ____. Initial Opening of your project.
- Open MyInfo
- Close the existing project from last time (it reloads, mostly useful when you work on the same research)
- Create New Project
- Create a couple of TopTopLevel headers as placeholders. (Just a pet tip from me, the need for a "Meta Comment" keeps showing up.)
- The "Project" IS your "Research", so you don't actually start with SubTopics - you simply have some initial topic split.

Part A:
1. Create a Topic. Click the lowest of the "reserved headers" and hit Control-Alt-N to start your first "Real Topic" & name it.
2. Click the first "Real Topic" and hit Control-N  Control-N  Control-N  Control-N  Control-N  Control-N  Control-N
Whoosh! There's your seven main topic shells! Name three of them, leave some blank ones, etc.
3. Click Topic 1 and hit Control-Alt-N to create your first SubTopic. Then click that SubTopic and hit Control-N a bunch of times to create your other subtopics at that level.

Part B.
1. The program is two-pane. So all that topic shell spacing was in a tree on the left. So on the right you just click on the node that you have some research for, and paste it in.
2. You can contract parts of nodes to hide the unused sections for later to reduce the "visual noise". That leaves your concentration for that day's heavy topic.
3. For me, the Killer App feature of the Pro version is that it can export to a web page, so then you have an export means for getting input and review.


Note: The odd looking toolbar is actually the result of a feature! I generally hate toolbars, and only needed about three things on it, so I used the program feature to strip the other twenty things from it!

I'll leave you now to go back to my "Notes Project" and add the contents of the seventeen paper sticky notes in my wallet!
809  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Unchecky: automatically unchecking unwanted offers, while installing software! on: February 08, 2014, 01:30:15 PM
Does anyone have actual testing results?

There's lots of those kinds of install forms out there, so this software concept sounds like it could be trickier to implement than it looks. From my Layman's view, there could be issues because installers tend to want to grab focus, and each installer is different so I don't know how the engine of this works.

810  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Why didn't anyone tell me I could make the Windows 7 taskbar height non-obscene? on: February 07, 2014, 09:58:20 AM
Heh if we consider Win 8.1 as a "service pack", then with that new engineering focused MS CEO, MS could be right in line for their pattern of "One OS Good, Next one bad"!

Here's hoping they make Win9 good!

811  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Continuing with XP on: February 07, 2014, 09:52:16 AM
For me a lot of little finesse details felt different, especially the stuff in what is XP's "Right click desktop/properties". A few of my more obscure programs misbehaved a little. (See a couple of my notes to Skwire last year.)

Otherwise my decision point is more price and hassle based rather than the "OhMyGawd get that Poison Ivy that is Win8 away from me!"

812  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Continuing with XP on: February 06, 2014, 08:23:59 PM
On topic:
I dont remember the change from XP to Win7 as being anything big - sure, any kind of change is challenging, on a computer especially for some reason. Even little changes can be frustrating, but in retrospect I'd say it was relatively easy.

I'd report it as "Modestly Challenging". My home comp was designed years ago to ride out XP as far as it could go, which is basically now + maybe squeaking by knowing there's no patches.

One job I had used Win7 comps, and there *was* stuff to do to get the details right. I'm a "Medium power user".

813  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Continuing with XP on: February 06, 2014, 01:26:52 PM
I'd be concerned about the point wraith808 mentioned.

Putting on a tinfoil hat, the XP support ending thing isn't exactly a secret...

Yeah, me too, a little.

"Security Vulnerabilities" come in a couple of varieties - the ones that are more proof-of-concept, and every so often a doozy comes along that really hits the wild.

814  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Satya Nadella becomes Microsoft's new CEO - will things change? on: February 05, 2014, 08:23:40 PM
@Wraith - thx for that link! Also an excellent article. Thmbsup

Just to generate discussion, that's a terrible article.

I bet the *man* is great - just the article is terrible.

2. "Be Loyal". Great for him, useless for the 350,000 other loyal people laid off who didn't manage to nail CEO.

3. Master the Tech Details
Last I looked at it, Bill Gates was a crossover - early tech background, kinda got a bit out of his scope, and went into the Biz side. Then Steve Ballmer was apparently all marketing and made a lot of anti-tech decisions. And he kept the job "forever".

4. "Master the Business Details".
Except that as a marketer, Steve Ballmer didn't master the Business Details either. Way too many Runaway-Chicken directions occurred under his tenure.

5. Be a Golden Goose that Makes Money
_____ % of departments under Ballmer lost horrible amounts of money.

6. Be Nice.
Balmer is not nice.

Instead, Ballmer had some kind of quiet immunity that protected him for years, rather than being rated on his merits.

Meanwhile the rest of us who are nice get no such luck.

815  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Programmers: What size monitors do you guys prefer? on: February 04, 2014, 08:42:23 AM

At home I've been pleased with the 24" monitor I bought some seven years ago, though it's really on the tail of its life now!  At one time at an old job I had two monitors, but since then I've only used my single one from home recreationally.

I'm thinking that the "programming environment" doesn't need to be maximized, so that "extra real estate" would become just other parts of the desktop housing the partially hidden windows of other apps that you just click to bring to the front.

I'll add a small surprise twist to this discussion by mentioning one of my favorite "under the radar" programs from here: Trandesk. It's not even a NANY. It's from the super obscure "C programming contest" here.

Most of the reason people go into multi monitor setups is because they don't want to play musical chairs with overlapping app focus. But for me Trandesk works as a virtual monitor - In "Workspace 1" I'd have my four instances of Firefox, three PaleMoon, and some five apps open. And that's plenty of noise for one workspace! So then on the second one I'd open the other couple of browser instances and the other few apps.

So my vote is Big Monitor + Trandesk!

816  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Dopamine Driven Game Design on: February 03, 2014, 04:50:12 PM
New take:

1. All of the Internet is Dopamine Driven
It's a "minor" problem for businesses when their employees lose more-than-normal (whatever that is) productive time, on the net. The best models for Net news sites are "frequent and compelling updates". So your favorite seven sites might chew half an hour to an hour of your time.

2. Quit being cavalier with Brain Words. Look at old literature and notice the huge chunks where people were bored out of their minds. First World Problem - Oh Look, people post notes on the Internet and sometimes too many at work!

Dopamine triggers with a "Payoff". So a good designed game will be ... "fun" ... to play.

3. Watch out for ReFraming. As an eight year old, I played Atari PacMan for so many hours our machine caught on fire. I think. So what. Me and my device Dad bought me. But gaming now has a lot of Sharing. Be careful. What exactly is the "gripe point" here?

817  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: How In-app Purchases Has Destroyed The Industry on: February 03, 2014, 04:36:38 PM
Just to get people talking, here's a bit of a "(something-other-than-Devil)" view.

Not All Gaming Is Created Equal.

This includes the colossal field called ... Sports.

Very briefly, in Sports, people don't bat an eye that upgrading certain equipment means better overall results. Each has its own. Tennis Racquets, Shoes, and shockingly, even Chess Equipment.

So in these "Games", watch the line where "cheap game" merges with "Sport". You start to get clashes with "Cheap Game" vs "Sport" eventually. Of course the sneakier Developers push this line.

If you go back to the world of "Pure Games", the best example from my younger days is "Magic the Gathering". It's In-App Purchase driven from day one and everyone knew it and mostly accepted it. You can goof off with your friend but if you wanted to get serious, it would cost you easily $300 on a good day. *If* you also made a few savvy trades. Twenty Three years ago.

Now, new angle. Something is totally wrong with Apps. "Several Someones" have decided that it's the new marketplace of idiots, and therefore any half baked junk is an "App".

The fallacy of course is that Phones are just Comps from 15 years ago. So it's far from clear why an App on a Phone from 2014 is 30 times worse than a (better) precursor program on a Win98 machine from 1999. I mean, they hold demo competitions on who can squeeze the most functionality out of older hardware, most famously the Commodore line. So what's with a cute prog from 1999 that outperforms a phone app from 2013?

Something about the Culture. In the old days, you/they released software as best as they knew how, with every last ounce of tech they had. Today's Apps are slammed out as fast as they can do it without too egregious bugs making them look bad. Somewhere in there ... is the problem.

818  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: CrossLoop – Simple Secure Screen Sharing on: February 03, 2014, 04:14:45 PM
I just tried to use CrossLoop to help out my sister. I instructed her to go to the website to download and install the software to her PC. But CrossLoop is dead.

To support our rapidly growing AVG CloudCare offering, AVG Technologies in 2012 acquired some of CrossLoop’s assets, including the service provided at the www.crossloop.com website. AVG has made the business decision to no longer provide the remote support and management tools available through the CrossLoop website.

Effective today, January 31, 2014, the CrossLoop website at www.crossloop.com and related products and services are no longer available (pursuant to the terms of use available at http://www.crossloop.com/termsofservice.html). This announcement applies to any and all versions of the product, including paid and free releases. It will no longer be possible to register for a user account, or purchase or access the CrossLoop website, services or products.

AVG is providing a full refund on valid, active subscriptions. If you feel you are entitled to a refund but have not received one by February 28, 2014, please notify us at crossloop-refunds@avg.com.

If you wish to contact us directly with regards to your account, or for any other questions, please contact us at crossloop-support@avg.com.

We thank you for being a customer.

I guess I can uninstall it now. . .


It's not so much that as how it's now only available bundled in (AVG makes pains to say it's included free) with a bunch of AVG cloud services you probably won't want. If they merely wanted to make it 'pay-only' that wouldn't have been a problem. They could have moved the old subscription base over and continued without anyone minding -or- announced there wouldn't be any renewals and served out the subscription periods. Instead they've elected to be disruptive by immediately shutting down the service and only offering refunds to current subscribers.

Nope! This is pure carrot and stick. You want CrossLoop? Well it's not for sale. But...if you want to subscribe to a pile of AVG things you may not want (or are getting from other suppliers) you can magically get CrossLoop for "free."

It's the old 'bundle blackmail,' (aka dog-in-the-hayloft) marketing strategy at work here.

Like I said: jive move AVG... Angry

(Can anybody tell I'm really pissed about this? Grin)
((Apologies if I mucked up the quotes))

I'm "pissed from afar", as a moderately informed bystander.

Somewhere about here is my comment about the true volatility of software, across the entire industry.

Company A produces software, and even escapes the whole free-vs-paid trap and convinces you to pay for their program. (Only some five programs ever passed that bar for me.)

Company Sauron-Clone8 "Purchases some of the assets including ____, which includes The-Program&Service-you-liked, for (usual biz fake reasons)."

Company A's stuff becomes "no longer available". Company Sauron-Clone8 "offers refunds" blah blah blah.

No. Here's why.

Specifically/Especially the "Lifetime License" is the one at risk.

Because a Business in 2002 is doing just fine, did its math right and can afford the license, and off it goes. So you look hard, it all checks out, and you buy a Lifetime License in 2003.

That small company A has no idea that in 2011 Sauron_Clone8 will buy them out to shut them down, just because some 3/4 executive manager decided that was an action item to do.

This brings up a grand meta-topic: Are any DC'ers registered attorneys? To me this feels like it begins to have legal implications, even if we don't stand to gain much. If Company A sells "Lifetime Licenses" "In Good Faith" and all that, and Company Sauron_Clone8 decides to "buy selected assets", how are they escaping the contractual obligations to provide the services?!

Bonus: "Some assets". Forgive the clunky wording based on my old program from work, but what is "Assets +ConditionAdd AssetsNotBought"? Can we "utilize" those NotBought Assets? : )

819  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content] on: February 03, 2014, 04:01:11 PM

From another thread, my reply is much more humor thread oriented:

(From 40hz) "It's the old 'bundle blackmail,' (aka dog-in-the-hayloft) marketing strategy at work here."

Heh damnit you made me look up dogs in haylofts! (Edit: The first page of Startpage Advanced doesn't even tell me!)

So wha' da' hell dozzat mean?

Tell us in vernacular!


820  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content] on: February 03, 2014, 03:42:57 PM
What are you going on about? David Thorne writes humorous articles. They're almost certainly not true, but that doesn't make them any less funny.
Maybe I'm being too critical.  I never thought any of this was true.  And yes... they're funny.

Nah, don't feel used. *We're* the ones publishing it here!
This got me started.  If this had said republished... that would have been the end.  This sentence, as is, implies it was published by someone at DC.

Mr. Thorne didn't publish his own stuff in this thread or say...
This brand of humor doesn't appeal to me so I didn't know there was an actual Mr. Thorne.  I only viewed what the DC thread-link sent me to.

...How does that reflect poorly on DonationCoder or the software being offered/discussed here?
Who really knows how anyone gets their jollies.

And how does that make you feel used...
Guess there's no relyable *jerk filter* on any site.  It's readers choice.

To this day I believe I've/we've been punked here.**  PM's only brought hatred and name-calling towards me.
The powers that be, at DC, don't seem to care or don't want to rock the boat?  So be it.
The suspicious behavior seems to have stopped but this only reinforces my view.

This isn't Facebook... this is DonationCoder.
Where some non-geeks come seeking assistance.  Good or bad it may be a starting point or different perspective they may not have had.

**Possible multiple ID's was the issue and the reason I'm jaded.  Cloned advice sux any way you look at it.   Sad

(Bleh - I had a nice post started, then a fluke browser crash nuked it! This version is slightly shorter.)

I'm involved, so lemme see if I can help fix this, so then we can get back to things we should be doing, like pestering Mouser.

1. I'm pretty sure you/we are not being "punked". First, to respond to the wording comment, I was trying to reply to your note earlier, and didn't predict this exact reply. So let's say that except for software stuff, very little gets "published" here. "Posted" is the word I'll use today. It's the Humor Thread, specifically designed for people to post stuff they like, with snippets, links, or both. Stuff from David Thorne aka 27b/6 is "medium famous", so there's high chances it will travel to Humor Threads on several boards.

Specially, I want to mention certain boards have their own "pet in house go-to humor". My best example is that Slashdot has a triple-joke that online comic xkcd gets posted in the comments basically every story. It's part of that site's Culture. Randall Munroe, while being a genius, has nothing to do with those reposts. We're far softer here, but a few sites will pop up more than once.

Meanwhile, as for ID's, this isn't like when you see "Info-Blog-Spam". I don't know Oblivion very well, but the fella from Page 1 is Zaine Ridling, a Minor Deity in the software world, and way smarter than I am. (I had to borrow one of his brain cells to pass a question on my tax preparer exam, but then I had to give it back, so then I forgot the answer!)

2. Notice it is a QuickMeme copy of the actual blog comedy entry. Noting in passing this site is in my top two list of sites concerning Copyright analysis, in concept anything that ever appears on any site like "QuickMeme" comes from somewhere else. So the concept is you should go back to the original source. DonationCoder is full of Smart People. I'm the resident idiot but I got lucky on this one. So some of us can usually do this to help.

I agree that "27bslash6" is a pretty obscure name if you don't know it. Let's look at it.
http://www.27bslash6.com/overdue.html - the "Spider" joke
Whenever you see a joke, always nuke the long address and go back to the "top level".
That gives us http://www.27bslash6.com/
THAT displays "Copyright © David Thorne 2008-2014 All rights reserved."

3. So if you can live with it not being a Dupe, let's look at one of your more disturbing notes.

"Thanks for bringing me back to the reality of DC.  Where some replies are genuine and others are not.  Readers choice.

With this in mind... how can anyone presume they're getting semi-accurate info about anything ... .

Including any *free software* that's offered.  No wonder it's free... you could end up more screwed than you were before.
But hey... it's free... sucker.

Jokers in this thread are going to be jerkers elsewhere.  Guess there's no such thing as Donation Refunds. "

Elsewhere you asked about a "Jerk Filter". DC is in my top-2 info sites. They handle "jerks" in different ways. Slashdot has a "mod" filter. People can "Mod Down" the worst of the trolls and "Mod Up" the better responses. There's some bias, and problems, but it sorta works. Here, Mouser moves the more contentious stuff to something called the "Basement".

Next, look at ID's. DC is small enough where you can begin to notice who posts what. The same 50 people account for 75+% of the posts here. So it's not "JohnDoe137" with two posts - it's someone with ____ other posts that prove they're not throwaway accounts.

Now, let's talk about "Free Software". I for one am a bit upset about you/user feeling "suckered". A ton of Free Software is made because we're pissed at people/groups like Microsoft charging $100+ for a Spreadsheet program in MS Office. So minor details aside, the five-ish free/cheaper alternatives are pretty good.

Lots of smaller Free Software gets made just because "Computing is Hard" and you just shouldn't have to pay for *every single line of code* you need. One of the legendary events here is "New Apps for the New Year", where people present little project software for free. No strings. Just because they think someone will like it. Or look at the Coding Snacks. You need a dirt-simple tool, but you can't code - you post it as a snack. Someone bangs it out in 30 lines of code in a couple of days.


Does that help?



821  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content] on: January 31, 2014, 10:08:02 PM

I feel used.   Sad   There's another David Thorne scenario on page 1 of this very thread.  Reply #1.   Angry

Apparently this jerk likes seeing his own crap published.  Sounds familiar... some how.   huh

Nah, don't feel used. *We're* the ones publishing it here!

And the Spider one *is* the viral one. It's this new one that's more rare.

822  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Programming/Coder humor on: January 30, 2014, 12:50:10 AM
Heh in Programmer/"Commissioner" humor, it's those edge cases that killed me this year. I made some brutally dirty "proto-apps" that did certain things. But they don't work on DC. Or on any of 570 other sites. Oops.

I think Programming in general is like this, hence the current struggle to "micro monetize" and the people building "deep resources for free" just because no one needs to write the same crucial 10,000 line of code EVERY SINGLE TIME.

823  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Programming/Coder humor on: January 30, 2014, 12:44:02 AM
... (Video)

Best Quote Ever:
(Slightly modded)
"So what you do is grab code, and put it your program, and give credit, and never ever look at it again."

824  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Robot Odyssey - An incredible programming game from 1984 on: January 28, 2014, 06:20:25 AM

That's ... just ... epic!

It reminds me of how precise childhood ages can affect computing experiences. Even today I wouldn't be able to do that game! My switchover point came between the Commodore 64 being just too hard for me at about 9 to do anything natively, but the Commodore 128 had both advanced enough and I had a couple years myself under my belt, so by 12 I made what I would now jokingly call "A New York City Rush Hour Train Crowd Simulator"!
(Heh "Avoid the never ending masses of faceless people rushing at you"!)

But after that point, my overall interest in low-level computing waned, and I even formally retired from video games about 1995, except a few casual hobby-game dabbling. (I can precisely date it to just after beating Killer Instinct).

825  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content] on: January 25, 2014, 10:12:18 PM
I sort of hope it IS, but even if it isn't, it's still pretty funny.  cheesy

Here is his main page, but it doesn't look like he has added anything for a year.

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