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601  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: What modern music (today) is considered to be both pop AND intellectual? on: June 06, 2014, 05:08:07 AM
Nilsson!!  I've always considered him a "fifth Beatle".  Incredible vocal range and brilliant songwriter.  Thmbsup


Sometimes you can "back into" a great singer from a cover. Nilsson's re-arrangement of "Without You" is one I first learned about through an Air Supply cover. ("Semi-RIP" Russell Hitchcock. Back as a youngster when I used to follow this stuff intently, I think he got ill or something because he lost about half an octave on his range in about two years and this was the last song he could nail his signature tenor.)

The Air Supply version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjxEB-oM2WQ

Which led me to the Nillson version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bQGRRolrg0



602  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: What modern music (today) is considered to be both pop AND intellectual? on: June 06, 2014, 04:58:59 AM
One of my quiet little hobbies is taking a song that feels "promising" but not quite right for me, and doing about one to three easy mods to it, such as chopping out an annoying part, then fiddling with the tempo and pitch. I end up with "my song". No once else has to agree with the result, though I'm sure seven people in the world would. Because once the song is given to me, I get to share in the experience. I get the artist's vision, but then their control leaves.

Congratulations, you're a "re-mix artist".  Seriously, there are some folks making careers out of the stuff.  If you come up with anything that really tickles, let us hear it.  Thmbsup

Heh not really, it's more like "with an audience of one you can't fail". I just smashed out versions to loop during work just to help me concentrate. Basically my tastes run towards speed and tempo down from the originals, so I can't tell what would be any runaway hit.

A better way to do that is to make a new thread of people wanting to do that to songs and we can trade notes.

I also have to say I don't have any attention to the fine crafting, so it's more like a musical version of a pencil sketch.

But per my point, parody or no, "W-D-F-S" has some three or four melodic themes in the verses and bridges, so it's a little bit like "if your parody is too perfect, it becomes the thing." Certainly lyrics like "The secret of the Fox, and ancient mystery..." isn't any less valid than "real song" lyrics of hundreds of staple songs we can all come up with!

603  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: What modern music (today) is considered to be both pop AND intellectual? on: June 05, 2014, 02:44:23 PM
That's why we turned them into rules - sort of a crutch for the creativity impaired.

FWIW I think some "rules" are actually liberating. And creativity by itself is vastly over-hyped in my opinion. A musical idea is cheap. Most of us can crank out a dozen or more on demand. Finding one that's worth doing something with, and knowing how to do something with it, is an altogether different thing. Therein lies (to me) the difference between creativity and art. Creativity is just the raw material - not the finished piece. Or the process leading to it. You need both. But music isn't just about being creative.


I'll give you an easy rule.
Of course there are thunderous tons of exceptions, but if your melodic singing contains less than five notes, be very careful unless you're sure you know you have it down. This is why I have trouble with lots of those D list garage bands - I can't focus on the instruments if the singer is tanking it. Rap is tight-pitched, but it's a special case. It's that droning anti-shoegaze turkey gravy style of singing I can't stand.

604  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: What modern music (today) is considered to be both pop AND intellectual? on: June 05, 2014, 02:40:31 PM
I wanna stress a brand new angle that hasn't been possible until very recently.

One of my quiet little hobbies is taking a song that feels "promising" but not quite right for me, and doing about one to three easy mods to it, such as chopping out an annoying part, then fiddling with the tempo and pitch. I end up with "my song". No once else has to agree with the result, though I'm sure seven people in the world would. Because once the song is given to me, I get to share in the experience. I get the artist's vision, but then their control leaves.

605  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: What modern music (today) is considered to be both pop AND intellectual? on: June 05, 2014, 09:24:43 AM
Hmm, there's a couple of threads here that I think are fighting each other a bit.

One of the big problems I have with the "Alternative" scene especially beginning around the '90's is that the word itself was in reverse, a negative. Supposedly people wanted "Alternatives to crap" ... but what if the alternative to "overpolished stadium rock crap" is ... "semi-melodic uncrafted crap"?

I saw news of a study once to the effect that you can get a "listenable" pop song with relatively little craft in "innovation" as long as the individual pieces fit together. From my own little pet project, I took the music program Audacity and chopped up "What does the Fox Say?" and re-spliced the verses minus the raucous chorus and wound up with something that is surprisingly listenable.

A new problem is emerging with the intersection of Viral and modern over-mixing effects. I put Gagnam Style in that group. Trying to stay on track, the lyrics might actually be "intelligent" because they parody a part of Korean culture not everyone agrees with. ("Gangnam" refers to an upscale district considered to be snooty but has a lot of what we would call "wannabes" mixed in. So the song parodies the wannabe-posh people.)

But below that clever level, the actual song is just rather standard techno - it doesn't make sense that it's the most watched item on YouTube *of all time*. I think today's social media amplifying tools can over-promote stuff that would normally before have just been kinda "underground".
606  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: What modern music (today) is considered to be both pop AND intellectual? on: June 04, 2014, 06:18:26 PM

My vote might be European melodic metal, soft or hard to your taste.

Just as one fun example:
Blind Guardian Nightfall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoyToHOWSV8

607  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Maple Prof. Review or An alternative outliner? And Ultra Recall vs. MyInfo again on: June 04, 2014, 06:15:49 PM

Hi Peter,

Have you tried to contact the MyInfo developer? He seems pretty good about working on stuff that people need!

It's Petko at support@milenix.com
608  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content] on: June 02, 2014, 09:57:25 PM

Heh what if Aliens saw Galaxy Quest as their only show, like a cross with the TNG episode The Royale? Wouldn't THAT show confuse them as their only "Historical Document" to go by!
 Grin
609  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: TrueCrypt is Now Abandonware?! on: June 01, 2014, 06:23:03 PM
Like a comment there says, who is "Alyssa Rowan"?

Heh you got in ahead of me. One of the Slashdot gang says someone *by that name/handle* has been legit in security crypto circles. But then see my note, "is this the real person or more dis-info?"

610  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: TrueCrypt is Now Abandonware?! on: June 01, 2014, 06:21:31 PM
Yeah, I saw that note too. Interesting how different sites have "personalities" on their comments. A current early concern is how do we cleanly know that such a sparse source of potential info is an authorized post for real and not some troll piggybacking on the other theory I saw which was "devs got grumpy and rage-quit." (But if so, then I'd think you'd end of life it, so the abruptness is again confusing people.)

Meanwhile I wouldn't put it past the gov to add a new little rule that tries to take out canaries as the way around "neither confirm nor deny". This whole topic is a twisty onion full of layers!

611  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: WinXP registry hack enables further security updates on: June 01, 2014, 03:06:33 PM
Eek. I didn't [make backups]

no system restore?

Yeah I did do one of those. But I thought those got deleted eventually. I didn't have any problems yet and I figured Stoic's comment talked about months later.
612  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: WinXP registry hack enables further security updates on: June 01, 2014, 09:14:27 AM
Here's the thing. Have you ever seen the sometimes very intricate tutorial instructions for using Server X as a workstation? That's the kind of deeply buried problems that are going to be had from this hack.

POS systems are like servers, with less options. So the thing(s) that these updates will break are going to be very subtle, and buried very deeply in the system's code.

So... Be very sure to make backups before using any of these updates, and plan on saving them for a fairly long time.

Eek. I didn't, so I guess I am just going to have to hope to get lucky! But since I don't have the chops to really mess around fixing something like that, maybe I have learned my lesson and will leave them alone now.

I'm at a down point my life where I don't really need my comp tanking. I might need y'all's help later with advice on this including maybe having someone write a "reverse" reg file to revert the old value of the registry or something.

613  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: WinXP registry hack enables further security updates on: May 31, 2014, 07:03:02 PM
I'm actually with you on that, but how long before the "Non-Windows XP" updates come out that will not install on anything but Embedded and Server 2003?  I do believe that time is coming...

I agree, and I do not know. I am playing a bit of a dance on trusting the mags/scuttle between today this hack works, vs whatever random time MS sends a "land mined" update the net will start screaming. At its best that IS what the Net does best now - it's a lot harder to play dirty tricks and cover them up for long.

So yes it's not perfect but for millions of us who simply cannot update, it's better than the growing gaping hole.
614  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: WinXP registry hack enables further security updates on: May 31, 2014, 04:58:55 PM
I did it for this round, because there's only like 20 tech mags out there and hundreds of millions of XP users right? So when a couple of them did it themselves and it worked, they didn't get 55,000 angry "you suk" messages back.

Maybe not the way to go forever but to me it's gotta be a shade better than just a growing black hole.

615  Other Software / Announce Your Software/Service/Product / Re: Wrike - the most practical project management tool on: May 31, 2014, 02:02:25 PM
Kinda a bit odd posting history here so lemme add a "clueless layman" perspective to all of this.

I am growing a bit grumpy at 30 day trials because they are a bit too short to actually do something short of tease. This is Project Mgt software right? What projects needing software are ever done in 30 days? 30 is just a cute round number. The only reason people pick 30 is because it looks nice and cute rather than 28 or 31 because we like round looking numbers more than actual month lengths!

I'd suggest a 99 day trial. You know, 3 actual months plus a couple days from Thursday to Tuesday when someone finally gets serious.

From a whole other angle, in Biz school they teach you that you have to be ready to burn years of funding before a biz gets profitable, so why do software devs decide they have rights to expect 3 month profits or bust?

616  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: We Drove a Car While It Was Being Hacked on: May 31, 2014, 10:18:37 AM
Yeah, shades of Flannery O'Connor, everything that gets internet enabled starts to converge.

Most people can't really ruin their life from their computer, not just by going to google and putting whatever into their search engine. Trouble, yes, but not on the order of trying to prove in court that you committed multiple vehicular homicide when your car was hacked and you crashed into a school bus!
ohmy

And this attack sounds "fast", aka that researcher just sorta stood there and "did it", not like taking months of planning or whatever. So I am terrified if someone does a wide band attack within an hour on all million cars in NYC! You would never clean that up. The damage would last for months!

617  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Anyone using CherryTree for Windows, or Linux for that matter? on: May 30, 2014, 02:14:55 PM
I haven't even looked at it. But then even with big chunks of downtime, when I get serious I am a rabid Tree note fanatic.

If I want to create a node of Undermined/Wins/By Miner/2 3 4, I have only found two programs that worked for me, (one of which had a fatal deep structural flaw).

So I am just a bit puzzled at any program that can't let me create a 3 level deep node in twelve seconds because that's how I think every day.

618  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: TrueCrypt is Now Abandonware?! on: May 30, 2014, 02:00:08 PM
I just can't see that the means of announcing this is in character for this project. It just doesn't make sense to recommend BitLocker (given suspicion of MS being sympathetic to gov't surveillance), or to completely ignore Unix and Mac users. I think there's something more than meets the eye.

I’m giving equal odds between:
  • Warrant canaryw (“we’re not saying that we’re being forced to introduce a vulnerability, but we have reason to believe that users of this program may be in danger”). While difficult to add an actual backdoor, it may be that they're being pressured to put a flaw into their PRG code or something subtle like that.
  • The developer(s) is in a snit, maybe because of the trouble of the audit, and just wants to burn it all down
  • The developer just wants to move on, and is taking an opportunity to make a political statement by stepping out in this way (like the Reichstag fire – cause the damage yourself, but make it look like your enemy caused it)

I just want to drift a little off topic to add exposure to a concept that I barely could reference before.

Warrant Canary/Canary Server/____

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant_canary

I think this will become an undersold concept in security concepts. It runs like this:
"Today I was not arrested for ____".

While it is horribly vulnerable to slackards like me, for someone really on the front line of a top level issue, it's a way to send a negative signal that trouble is brewing. I'd seen it described once before a long ways back, but this thread produced a fresh new reference that I just had to echo.

I think it adds a (rather desperate) new level to "you have the right to remain silent".

619  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: TrueCrypt is Now Abandonware?! on: May 30, 2014, 01:26:55 PM
Okay, here's a new angle.

From a "medium layperson" point of view, what's with this explosion of tools that aren't valid/supported anymore? Maybe MS's notes on the slow death of XP vaguely filtered to me, but I didn't see any articles ever of this current rash of stuff breaking.

Heartbleed, barely a one time shot (but shouldn't really), but truecrypt devs just getting "bored"/other and quitting bothering to update? What is it about May 2014 that takes one of the top contenders in encryption out of the game forever!?

(Rant)
What is with these .Gov depts claiming to spend *Billions* on "Cybersecurity" and then the next story out of Slashdot is "OpenSSL" (that basically the entire Internet uses) "gets two developers". So lemme do the math on my seven dollar calculator. A software routine that counts for like $555 Million in software security security services experiences the greatest hack ever in twenty years, and some foundation assigns Joe and Ted to fix it?!

Slashdot has a sharp eye for Security Theater but where's even the theater?! You see these weird proposals now and then for fancy new initiatives, but how about just funding five guys and a supply of pizza? Nope. Can't do that. It might even break six figures.

mad
620  Special User Sections / Site/Forum Features / Re: A Practical Guide to DonationCoder.com Forum Search on: May 30, 2014, 01:12:18 PM
What I find eating time is trying to find all my posts in a topic if any.  It seems a bit laborious to get the topic ID, then click into Advanced Search, then enter my user name, then try to figure out what term to search since '*' is not supported.

Seems like it would be a real time saver if there was a button at the top of all topics "List Your Posts."  It sure would beat Control f on every page in the topic.  smiley

Especially if someone adds to a topic that's been around awhile.  It's pretty easy to forget if you already made the comment you want to make if the thread is a few months old.  smiley

Heh Talk about a Necro Thread!

The way I do it is "last posts by this person" because I don't care much about anything more than a few months old. : )

621  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Ludum Dare topic for other games on: May 29, 2014, 04:22:14 PM
But that feels like the "breaker" move.

I think little more can be done until I get my requested custom copy from the dev. I want to save all five miners and I think that takes a program tweak.

622  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Ludum Dare topic for other games on: May 29, 2014, 01:41:27 PM
Haha! Got it!

A fairly simple strategy just gave me a 4 miner win!

You just toss one down the mine shaft and ignore him!

[attachthumb=#]
623  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: The DonationCoder.com 30-Day Healthy Eating and Exercise Challenge! on: May 27, 2014, 01:35:42 PM

And while your watch thing certainly looks like it does a lot more than the Bit Fit, I heard there was an update to iOS that made the iPhone waterproof (Wink) so your purchase may have been in vain.

I'm not quite *that* gullible tongue

Damnit my iPhone isn't working anymore!
Just kidding!
 Grin
624  Other Software / Developer's Corner / Re: About the Python 2 to 3 Transition... on: May 27, 2014, 01:29:36 PM
So not a programmer here, so forgive me if you have to smile at my question:

Does this kind of version war exist in many other places? The only one I vaguely recall might be Visual Basic.

I had vaguely heard of this issue a few years ago, but forgot it because it's not important to me. But I don't recall many people saying the same kind of thing like "Oh man, give me old school Ruby, before it was on that rail crap."

625  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Ludum Dare topic for other games on: May 27, 2014, 01:38:46 AM
I think I found a bug.

My guy at stats like 12 10 11 has "Fallen Over" (" Near Death") while a couple of my guys at 025 130 36-10 are "still standing" despite being in far worse shape. (And I swear the update math is a little strange.)

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