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601  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Wikimedia refuses to remove animal selfie because monkey ‘owns’ the photo on: August 07, 2014, 02:24:53 PM
Getting back to the original topic, the photo was apparently "rotated and cropped" but basically came out great. I just saved a copy to my local (backup) computer, to remind myself to re-save it again later whe my main machine is back up.

But there's a fantastic op here: just train animals to take pics semi-well! A whole cadre of them! Buy them their own cameras! Get a few snickering lawyers to get the procedures right!

The inevitable judge who gets one of those cases on his docket is gonna roll over laughing!
"Murder one, petty theft, Australian Platypus taking pictures copyright dispute .... uh ... what?!!"

Then you can make forums/blogs of who can be the first to get X species taking pics... then they make a new branch of the SPCA (Society for Purchasing Cameras for Animals)  ... oh my word, I needed a good laugh!!

 Grin  cheesy

602  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Moore's Law Dead by 2022, Expert Says on: July 29, 2014, 04:32:40 AM
My current box is 4 years old (about), and still has LOTS of power. It was mid-range when I got it too.

Few people need what many computers can do now. They do email, Fac
My current box is 4 years old (about), and still has LOTS of power. It was mid-range when I got it too.

Few people need what many computers can do now. They do email, Facebook, and not much else.

I'll update this a hair but I basically agree with it.

My box was quasi-high-end on purpose when I had a buddy build it cold.

I'm not just a "Facebook-email Newb", but if ya think about it, posting on like seven more sites and running a few new progs, I nailed the sweet spot too, and don't need much more beyond silly "end of life for XP" concerns.

I don't do hardcore gaming, so there's very little else that I could even want to do that requires more than (the original) quad core engine and twin Terabyte drives really needs. Yeah, I have a couple of system maintenance things I've been putting off, but performance wise, I thought long and far ahead and did it right and basically don't need much more.

603  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Seagate starts shipping 8TB hard drives, with 10TB and HAMR on the horizon on: July 28, 2014, 01:51:54 PM
This is rapidly becoming more tech than most people need, and now it's becoming things like ugly "end of life" policies that are becoming the limiting factor.

Not counting slight hardware age concerns, I completely nailed my forward-looking project machine from 2006, and haven't seen any real use need to upgrade except a couple of obscure one-day experiments.

My system has twin 1-TB drives and I barely have touched the second one.

604  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Looking for a seventies music title... on: July 26, 2014, 09:25:37 AM

That other link appears to have been taken down, but here is a YouTube link.

And it's in Danish.

605  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Animal Friends thread on: July 21, 2014, 05:53:08 AM
Every night for the past three years, a junkyard dog in Brazil has made an eight-mile journey along dark and dangerous roads so she can retrieve a bag of food for her friends – another dog, a cat, and several chickens.  At first she left home to feed her puppies, but now she still makes the journey so she can feed her friends.

Read Full Story

This is almost the best post ever. Anyone can post vids/pics of cats being funny for 45 seconds. Here we have a dog going at least four and maybe eight miles each way just to feed four more animal friends. That ... just ... rules.

606  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Recommend some music videos to me! on: July 21, 2014, 05:21:45 AM
Opposite Genres here:

3-6-Mafia's song from Rocky 5
One of those songs I prefer no video but it's easier to get get YouTube copy, just minimize it.
from Rocky 5, what I call them "Hit them with the Left".

Giacomo Voli's almost better than the original:
Modded David Bowie's Life on Mars (really innovative choice!)
I think he has 20% more power than David Bowie. I know you stand on shoulders and all that, but darn clean take, he only missed like three notes.

"Anyone" can do the first third of the song ... but it's the last third that will really do you in if you can't hit that last four notes.

607  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Readability and Reading List on: July 17, 2014, 07:09:17 AM
I'm getting suspicious that you and Contro are trying to drive the old man bananas???
Before I go running off looking for Firefox please tell me that the links you posted above don't all go to the same place!
All three links take me to the original page........... no converted page in the whole lot!!!

Naw, I wouldn't try to drive you bananas! It's more the reason I was suggesting my other hints before, because a new issue popped up.

It's true the second link was repeated, but I was trying to use the whole link for rhetorical purposes. But you apparently just discovered (see my grumpiness note from above) that they apparently don't cache the "readable" page very long, so you're right that it's reverting back to Forbes, but that is *not* what it was doing for me yesterday!!

"Read Now is a great idea but it's too flakey to do me any good."
You were saying earlier they may have stopped development ... maybe they were finding that each site has its own nasty javascript doing weird things, and it was getting harder and harder to produce "readability profiles" for sites plus different implementations across the browsers.

Plus, the Readability email itself sends a clue - re: the three different byte counts, I wouldn't put it past them based on the other weird things their script does, is to try to auto-detect browsers and produce something customized. In my signup email it says "go get the add-on" and auto-detects the browser and feeds me different instruction pages, when I was testing for you. So your three different versions could have been browser specific!

Yeah, I agree with the conclusion, "good idea, but flaky"!       : (

608  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Google “Project Zero” hopes to find zero-day vulnerabilities before the NSA on: July 16, 2014, 08:08:50 PM
Okay, picking my words a little and hoping I get my tone right...

I get that Google (and Facebook and all kinds of other gangs) are *selling info*. It's sleazy, but to me that's "grey hat". It's "we're psychologically manipulating you to make money, but you knew that but we made the services nice and fun/useful so you don't care". I've been reading a huge Star Trek DS9 Re-Watch overview, and that feels so like a Quark move - he's devious but eventually even he draws his lines.

Secret silent software bugs that only X number of governments even know exist is a whole other level of Black Hat. (Really, somewhere in the combo of Heartbleed and the True-Crypt mess I got grumpier than I have been in a while.)

So Google isn't some poor 12 man op with a lonely tech who was beaten by big guys - behind the sales guys there's a *lot* of tech crunching firepower there. So *maybe* the Agencies have a bit of a lead on them, but I'd bet not as big as those Agencies thought.

It's a fascinating twist - Govt can beat up "little guys" a few at a time in a Divide and Conquer strategy, but what if this story catches on, and then Microsoft and Facebook and Apple and Samsung and your choice of others jump in?

(I put Samsung in there because software bugs know no boundaries, so it's specifically a test of geographic negotiations beyond the US level.)

Short Selling jokes aside, can the US even manage to indict the CEO's of all of US tech? Their dealmaking might just be on the verge of coming to bite them. (There was a TV series about all that, corps, totally owning govt openly and outright.)

When we're not busy snarking in the Basement or the Living Room, having a gaping security flaw in software isn't good for any of these companies. So maybe (making up a name) Gennady Li Chandarovskiyij-Maharujshi is the greatest programmer alive at one of the Agencies, but can he really stand up to a world wide team that's now pissed off??

Going all story fiction for a moment, imagine it:
All these companies, led by the big dogs with little guys lending a spare hour;
CEO's around the world getting royally pissed and saying "our products are dominant enough and we have time to put away our micro-jockeying. Let's spend an entire year and 700 billion dollars/whatever to clean this mess up. Grab anyone who has any legit idea whatsoever about software security and let them do whatever they want (jokes aside), no questions asked including extra perks like the 90's like croissant sandwiches in the break room."

US Govt is slowly winning the PR war against "Anonymous", but what if the Big Tech companies with tips from millions of freelancers all unite and say "Thanks for all the fish, yummy, now watch what you made! We have a worldwide "team" of over a *thousand* software people (and four space aliens, only three of which you know about.) Do you *really* wanna keep doing this? Or can we just get back to selling people's info for money?"

At least in my imagination I wanna believe we're on the verge of Tech calling Govt's bluff that they've been going "Divide and Subdue" too long, and the beautiful part is all the bribery is (mostly) illegal - how can they even pretend to shout about 770 companies and 12,345,845 freelancers all spending an entire year on software security?

So that's my message of daydream hope!

609  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Oh god...It's him! on: July 16, 2014, 07:49:00 PM
I have been focusing a lot on real life...

DC isn't real life!?
tellme   Cool
610  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Readability and Reading List on: July 16, 2014, 09:15:54 AM
As a test I went for a Forbes Magazine article, remembering that they are among the "noisier" sites, but not quite as "tricky" of a test case as Chessbase.

I grabbed a random article from a topic I recalled from last month, Congress mulling suing the President.

My version of the converted article is at:

1. It seems to matter if you are logged in to your Readability account. So even if the buttons are there, take a look to see if you are logged in. (I'm frowning a little at their processing model, that takes whatever article you are reading from wherever, and then stores the copy on their server. But that's another thread's topic!) So in my tests, when I was logged in, your final goal of saving the page was easier. Before I logged in, copying and pasting the readability version URL was redirecting me back to the original page, which is close to the problem you were having.

Trying to guess ahead of Cranky-IE8 vs your IE11, try saving in something approaching the following ways:
- "Webpage Complete .html"
- "Webpage single file .mht"
- Fiddle with whatever you have as "Compatability Mode"

On my cranky IE8 I couldn't get the first to work at all, and the second came through with "hidden" script text from Readability, in the form of an ugly "how did we (Readability) translating this page?" survey.

2. On my PaleMoon copy of Firefox, I got your full goal of the saved page instantly with a simple as "Save as complete page html". So a new workaround could be, if you really like and must use IE11, install a copy of Firefox anyway, log it in to Readability, and then when you're reading on IE11, once you get the converted page URL like

then just flip over to Firefox, paste the URL, hopefully the converted copy comes up, and then just save-as-html like you want to. Two more clicks, but at least not the 12 you were doing!

So I hope those notes are at least closer to what you are trying to do! Do they help?



611  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Readability and Reading List on: July 16, 2014, 09:03:20 AM
...when I save the converted page I get a copy of the original page and not the stripped down page (I'm smelling java!)

Okay, since I saw this thread pop up again, I decided to just go ahead and sign up as much for my own benefit as anything!

Your reply to my notes added some new info - that we're talking about IE11 apparently, so that narrows down the browser.

Now we get a slightly different problem in that I am on XP, so I only have IE8 (and it's getting cranky on me!) and my various copies of Firefox.

So that gets me closer to your original question, and hopefully you can modify one of these further hints and get to where you want to go. PS it's a nice concept for an addon!

612  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content] on: July 14, 2014, 04:45:26 PM

Nah. I'm a Panda Bear. : )

613  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Readability and Reading List on: July 14, 2014, 04:42:33 PM

Hmm. I'll trade you being a 4 fingered typist who somehow managed to get to 30 wpm, vs *never* having written a .bat file ever! So I'll go sideways in my attempt to work on your concept and problem.

I just glanced at Readability, but I'm not up for signing up for a service just for this post. My specialty is more user-level tweaking offline tricks to do stuff.

Some ideas:

1. Make a folder on your desktop called articles. Make a bunch of empty text files just by copying one and hitting Control-V until you get "copy of copy of copy of copy of newfile.txt" or whatever. Point is, you use Readability to strip the page down, then select the article, and paste it to one of the empty text shells, and rename it as you like. Bonus of this is you add your own name to what the article means, vs the site default page name. Downside is sometimes pages use pictures for part of the article.

2. I discovered a while back, a fast and dirty hack addon called "QuickJS" (Javascript) which toggles Javascript on and off in one click. (When you said Java, I think you mean Javascript, a different thing and a whole other thread.) So sometimes you just toggle that off, load the page, and it stops five of the seven other dumb things from loading. Then you "Save as html only", and while it looks a bit ugly, it tends to be pretty small all told.

3. "Links Files". If you're really cruising, and this time keying on the "memory problem", I have used text files with 2 line entries. (I get lazy and call the files like "July 13 links" but name them whatever.) So then you just copy the link and smash it into the text file, with a 7 word description of what it is. This is when having 20 separate items could overwhelm you in a folder, but 20 items in a text file isn't so bad if you have them in two week batches.

4. This last one is a bit different. Let's say there's an article (or a TV show!) that has just one incredible part and the rest is blah. Then you can do things like use Mouser's SC Capture to capture the exact part, then dump it into Tom Revell's Stickies. (If this sounds remotely interesting there is one more advanced trick for later.) Point is, you didn't want that entire 3000 word article, you wanted 2 sentences that changed your life for a week.

So there's some stuff!

614  News and Reviews / Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: Firefox add-on - MAFIAAFire now adds "PirateBay Danciing" - quick review on: July 14, 2014, 09:22:49 AM
Now, I don't know how long the website  has been blocked by MBAM, but to me this looks suspiciously like stealthy censorship

I wouldn't be surprised. I've noticed Chrome giving me errors/warnings when I go to some sites. It doesn't happen very often, but... Those sites aren't exactly mainstream, and I can see why someone would want to censor them.

To me this spills over into a bigger issue, merging "copyright concerns" with "security warnings". I expect a legit "security warning" to be ... about security.

But when the IP gang pressures a browser to report a site as "unsafe" really bugs me, because it tries to play the gen public's honest attempt to be safe, for a few loose ends.

My best example is showing up in Firefox/related's lists as "an attack site".

Now I'll listen to one of my betters here, but it generally seems like cheap tactics.

615  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: South Park moves behind Hulu paywall starting Sept 24, 2014 on: July 13, 2014, 07:34:00 PM
Oh my god! They killed South Park Fan respect!

616  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: The Rant Thread! on: July 13, 2014, 12:04:57 AM

Heh well first I got my first BlueScreen in months/years! But I assume that's just a fluke caused by other things.

But more to the point, not only is the image still there, but now the color scheme is inverted! (In Chrome).


So who knows. It's not a big deal, just kinda interesting.

But I will leave Ghostery on in PaleMoon and/or Firefox, because this is another time it seems to pick up a few things that AbBlock isn't. (I think one of those other ones was the whole "" thread.)

617  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: What I mean when I say "I think VR is bad news". on: July 12, 2014, 03:31:05 PM

Hmm. I will probably misfire my tone here and I only glanced at the article, but here goes.

To me VR/AR/___ can be divided into a few parts. For brevity, let's separate out a couple with quick notes. At one point about the year 2000 I "foresaw" parts of our current predicament. I'd sorta date about 1995 with the advent of Win95 plus Netscape as the early modern dawn of the net. Looking back, only five years from 1995-2000 really was rather quick of the net's "innocent age". Hopes were high, and we had some of our best cyberpunk movies.

By weird coincidences, the economic fall of Net 1.0 and the September theme came rather close together.

Now we're just in this "staring at each other in a fishbowl" stage that's basically been going on for *fifteen years*.
We're already had this "VR" mindset, where you look up anything you ever wanted to know related to anything you are doing. The only difference is an interface that's a little slower aka "pull out your phone (or go home to your desktop)" vs "overlaid on reality".

I'm terrible on faces so I'd see an obvious case of "wave my data glove and look up who that is", but that's just techno-peanuts.

I am thinking more of the emotional moods of society, and we had five years of youthful hope, and fifteen years of semi dark dystopia. What I don't have the answer to is how to keep that from becoming fifty years of increasing dystopia.

618  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: The Rant Thread! on: July 12, 2014, 03:15:47 PM
Where are you reading it?  On


I have ignored most of the pics, only occasionally nuking a couple that really seemed annoying.

Not sure... I have adblock plus and ghostery running... and didnt see any of what you were talking about.

Adblock certainly doesn't do anything, and it's fair to say they're same site ads, so arguably among the legit ads possible. My rant was just about them being big pictures which always beat out text. I just put back Ghostery, and it didn't seem to do anything.

Try this page:

Then see if you see this image in the post:

If you do, that's my point. If you don't, then we have a new topic because if we're both running Adblock (which one? I'm running edge) and Ghostery and I see it and you don't, that's a technical thing to discuss.
Keith D has written a lot of books, and I'm sure some of them are pretty good. It was just a bit much of selling as I clanged through his entire series. Title dropping in text would have been fine, maybe ten years ago I might have bought a couple of them. It was just the pic thing that annoyed me a little.

619  Other Software / Found Deals and Discounts / Re: NoteFrog lifetime license $9.95 - but no new licenses ever after?? on: July 11, 2014, 10:38:53 PM

Going a bit broader, we're losing the culture where all the cool toys came from. 30 year olds who had a dream are becoming 36/45 year olds who are wearing out and have nowhere to pass the torch to.

Also, except litero-figuratively, "the net isn't getting any faster", but the corp/govt responses to it are. So all the money from the 20 year plan to lock it down is really starting to show.

Again ignoring the straw man of data rates, the net in 1999 is the same net we have today. But weird factors are crushing our enthusiasm for it all, year by year.

This latest thing is just another one. "Last gasp to make my mortgage for 7 more months but I'm not into this anymore".

I don't know "what to do with the paradigm". I miss the optimism of the old days, but the new trends feel like juggernauts.

620  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: The Rant Thread! on: July 11, 2014, 10:33:01 PM
Where are you reading it?  On


I have ignored most of the pics, only occasionally nuking a couple that really seemed annoying.

621  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: The Rant Thread! on: July 11, 2014, 01:22:41 PM
Okay a new one popped up.

I am reading Keith DeCandito's reviews on Star Trek TNG.

Pretty good all told, but he's putting in just a few too many full pic ads of his or friend's books in.

It's well known that 1 200X380 pic overpowers 2000 words of text.

So just as a lark, after trying to play fair, I nuked one of the pics with AdBlock.

The result was immense. I don't really mind texts calling out their products. It's when a big pic "bullies" the text to the side that I begin to get grumpy.

After all you wonder why WHY AREN'T YOU READING MY AD FOR NEW COKE??? when lil' ol text GETS PUSHED TO THE SIDE BY A HUGE PIC THAT ASKS YOU TO BUY SOMETHING can't be read coherently!?

622  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content] on: July 11, 2014, 12:09:12 PM
Troll Truck

How did they even do that? I'm guessing it's some sort of real truck and then somehow the footage is spliced together, then lettered over on top?

623  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: DonationCoder Recipe Sharing Thread on: July 11, 2014, 12:04:00 PM
Heh I've been reading lots of "Star Trek TNG walkthroughs" so I'm full of comments (from the better episodes) about "added nice complexity" and all that.

So I shall take the Recipe Thread into new territory with a dark and murky one!

It's a paraphrase from a SciFi (Non-Trek) short story (whose exact title is escaping me at the moment - note to self check my anthologies).

It's a brilliant sideways show-not-tell about tough times in the gritty near future. You can vary it, and it goes something like this:


Fried Rats

2-5 rats
2-5 grams of salt

Make a fire out of street trash
Fry the rats to desired finish
Add the salt to taste

Serves 5-20 depending on the number of rats used.


Insert your haunting minor key music here!

624  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content] on: July 09, 2014, 04:20:52 PM
Heh Giampy I don't even know what that pic means : )
625  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Interesting "stuff" on: July 08, 2014, 07:18:12 PM
That's a really complicated video and I've seen the movies 3 times (except #2) and a chunk of new Dr. Who and I still only got 30% of it!!

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