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^Agree.

Microsoft hasn't been too successful in strong-arming corporate IT to knuckle under to Windows 8. At least in its present incarnation. Something which will (of necessity) change if Microsoft doesn't want to be sitting with a complete desktop flop on their hands.

As long as Microsoft wants to maintain its present dominance on today's main productivity hardware platforms, they'll continue to sell Windows 7.  Even if they have to lie about it and fudge the sales statistics by only selling Windows 8 -  but with 'downgrade rights' to 7 - same as they did with Windows 7 to XP.

But long before that issue comes to a head, I think you'll see Windows 8 ship with the option to install with a default 'traditional desktop' and probably a "desk toy" to bring back something very similar to the old start button, even if they never call it that - or officially support it.

Most big businesses hate it when they're wrong about their most recent brainstorm or pet initiative. And Microsoft hates being told they're wrong more than most businesses. Possibly because they've been proven so wrong so often.

At least Apple has the advantage of having a mindset that is immune to criticism and scorn. But Apple is a cult masquerading as a technology company. So the rules that govern most of the tech world simply don't apply to Apple. And probably never will.

Unfortunately for those who covet Apple's unique position, the world will only tolerate one maverick or "bad-boy" company at a time. Apple can just because they're Apple. Microsoft can't because they're not. Simple as that.

Which is something Microsoft has yet to realize. Or accept.

So, nope! Windows 7 will be here for some time. Or will until such time as Microsoft can force the vast majority of its business users into their cloud services and hosted software offerings. Something they are most aggressively striving to accomplish as we speak.
 

I'm starting to giggle and think Microsoft has a Moth-Flame liking to being wrong! They keep trying to be some strange hybrid of Chinese Knockoff and Bully-Pulpit Industry-Mover. Their branding suffers badly from their old heritage of becoming dominant and then forcing whatever they want. On the music side, if they had bothered to do any competent audience impression testing, they wouldn't have made anything as half-baked as the Plays-For-Sure --> Zune --> Windows Phone 7 fiasco.

On the OS side, Vista was a desperation move, and they knew it wasn't ready, so they just resolved to "fake it" until Windows 7 came out. Meanwhile, no, they're not going to fix anything for Windows 8, *because they are now pretending to go to Yearly Releases and the next one is sorta ready! "Windows Blue" is indeed rumored to undo a lot of the PITA factor of Windows 8 ... and so they'll just leave Win8 sitting there!

I do believe they bulk license a ton of OEM copies, and then it does take a fairly long time for the makers to straggle their way through their licensed copies. Windows Vista was lurking until half past the intro of Win 7.

Just look at this history of branding! (With a couple minor omissions)
3
3.11
95
98
2000
Me
XP
7
8
Blue

... Really?!

I think I am going to rethink how I wrote the app. I use an auto hotkey app to make the hotkey. I think I am going to remove that and just leave Ctrl+V as is and do all the scrubbing by watching the clipboard. That may fix some of the clashes as it will just be the native windows hotkey.

I like that as a concept if you can make it work. The clashes didn't surprise me, because it makes sense for programs to clash over the same shortcuts. I've seen it before other apps like this including I think a couple from here.

Thanks again for the input! I'll take a closer look at these and try to add what I can and fix the bugs. As far as the registration, I usually keep it so that if it is paid for once there are no upgrade fees. Unless there is a big update that would cost me a lot but I don't see that happening on this app.

Maybe glance over and put some notes in the help file that a lot of the combos coincide with functions in other apps, and they seem to be fighting a bit with Scrubby.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forth

[Mouser]

  I came across this in a PCWorld newsletter yesterday:

Free Clipboard Help+Spell adds a lot of power to your clipboard

On their own, X, C, and V are just three random letters. But combine them
with the Ctrl key, and you get one of the most iconic keystroke trios in the
history of computing. Cutting, copying, and pasting data is something we all
do on a daily basis, so doing it more efficiently can translate into major
time savings. Clipboard Help+Spell is a donationware utility by Mouser that
does just that. Note: The "Download Now" button below the full review and on
the Product Information page will download the software to your system.

Can you put the link in for us? Did PCWorld smash it into one of those infested installer packages or is it a direct link to here?

On a different topic, maybe clarify your intended upgrade policy for the paid versions.

We've seen cases where you pay for your version, only for V2.0 to come out and then it denies you the upgrade! Some places do a "payment good for only one major version upgrade", but this doesn't feel like a long running app that will go to V4.8 or whatever.

I have updated Scrubby and added a few more features and removed the per-scrub alert. Went down to only 15 uses (per execution not per scrub). Please see the help file for more info. You can download Scrubby and view the help file here -> http://starpunch.blogspot.com/2013/04/scrubby.html

@TaoPhoenix Does this new version satisfy your post? :-)

Hi Chris! That's close!

Yes, the basic feel is much better. Especially because I was toggling on and off the Scrubbing, see below, it's WAY better that it didn't force me to burn scrubs! (Heh and I am still burning through sessions but I think that's a bit different, more bugtesting per se.)

I am digging a little into bug fixes and feature tweaks. The most annoying one is that when it creates the unformatted text, LibreOffice doesn't see it as "regular text" to paste, but instead pulls into "Paste Special" which is a big ugly diagram box that in a way defeats the spirit of the utility. Do you know/can you figure out what that's about?

There might be a bit of an elusive bug where if you toggle on and off the app over and over, it was looking like the toggle wasn't working right, but I haven't nailed that down yet.

Some other things that are probably more feature upgrades but feel pretty basic to me, listed in order of "Begg-iness" : )

Bugs:
- Put a (toggable?) check in so that if something starts as regular text, it stays regular text and Scrubby leaves it alone. This matters if for example you're doing alternating copy-paste, one is a web link and one is text, that "converted text" currently keeps pulling in that Paste Special box whereas regular text wouldn't.

- If I have scrubbing on, copying a web link and hitting "control-v" seems to pull up
Ad Block (Element helper?) "Blockable items on the page" here in DC. I have no idea what that means! But I suspect it's not unrelated to LibreOffice's pulling into Paste Special - that some kind of other control characters are getting in there. Any ideas?
With Scrubbing Off the address is:
http://www.aphelion-webzi....com/sections/shorts.html

Features:
-  Put a "Change Font Formatting Only" option. Because there are at least a couple of places that if you copy a link, the link travels which in that specific case is fine, but then your entire workspace is plain 8 or 10 point and the link "with full formatting" keeps coming in 12 point bold italic!

3. This one is just me wishing a little, but then it's how I think when I see related-apps:
Remember this story page?
http://www.aphelion-webzi....com/sections/shorts.html
Let's say you copy a story and author like:
Henchmen Academy
By Spencer Carvalho

When it comes through to LibreOffice, it pastes into two cells *down*. I even went to LibreOffice Calc and changed "Upon enter key move right" in the settings. But still pastes down.

It would be REEEELY nice if it pasted *across* into two cells *across*! Is that doable?  


Heh I had another small point or two but I'm starting to forget for now with this long post! : )

I'd say just sign up and post to an Anime board. I know a voice acting service/group but 1 word is a little thin of a job. : )

On an anime board the fans would likely do your one word for you by a couple different people.

^I run multiple normally unplugged separate hard drives with backup copies of my OS.
I'm not sure if it would deal with a Rootkit, as I understand those can actually infect the mobo, or am I mistaken?
Rootkits are about as unethical and nasty as you can get.
Maybe someone should write a 'Babylon remove & restore tool'.
Or something 'resident' to protect against it.

I'm not aware of very much software that can go all the way to hardware!

Well, as for the "resident to protect" thing it's kinda also my whole thread point, it's amazing all that stuff gets on there even if you miss an opt-out button.

Mark Russinovich had a Rootkit detector, but I haven't run it in a while. One of these days when I do another whole day of Comp maintenance I might.

Yes my question was serious, and now I just found this:
How to Remove Babylon Search Toolbar
It seems CNET has been offering downloads that include being infected with the 'PUP' or 'Potentially Unwanted Program' a.k.a. 'Babylon Search Toolbar'.
It seems CNET is an 'ennabler' in infecting computer OSs with the 'Babylon Search Toolbar', which exhibits many traits of a virus:
"It's technically not a virus, but it does exhibit plenty of malicious traits, such as rootkit capabilities to hook deep into the operating system, browser hijacking, and in general just interfering with the user experience..."

Rootkit...??

Yes, I actually believed -up until now- that TUCOWS, softonic, and CNET were all "developers' darlings"; sites where you could get 'safe' downloads of really cool neat stuff.
Not any more, and my sincere thanks to the contributors to this thread.

That's bad news, because no matter how sneaky the downloads are, per the "rule" of my initial thread they were supposed to be clean if you ever managed to get through the "DoubleDare Physical Challenges"!


But I think I recall a Babylon Toolbar showing up, and I had no idea where it came from, so if it's mashed into supposedly safe programs that's not good!

Whenever someone claims to be multi-tasking, this is the kind of image that pops into my head:
...

Heh instead this ditty popped into my head inspired by yours!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQURd7pIFyA

 

(That new one is even faster than the old one, it's tightened up near the end.)

PS App what is your oDesk handle and how much do you charge? 

On another topic via ChrisG and you if you made a pre-priced app, it's not that $6 will break the bank, it's about trusting the payment mechanism. I trust DC (via that other payment processor I can't recall the name of!) and I trust oDesk.

That's subject is probably better discussed elsewhere and not in the cute jokes thread. 

Yeah, I agree! My fault!
Prob half PM and half that one of the other monetizing threads about application prices.

Gawd knows I shouldn't be talking, but maybe some things "Just Are". I have trouble getting started on a website, but I believe I have the material to update one.

A website is just one of the rawest modern things to show you noticed it's not 1992 anymore. At least get to 2004!
 

[here]

What is Markdown?

It's totally awesome!

See here and here and here.

That's too many "Here" 's. They make me allergic!

Are you guys aware that I have deleted accounts because of "worshippers"?

It's not so much worship as we're egging you on. It's been kinda quiet around here since Renegade went on hiatus.

RIP Renegade!

What is Markdown?

Nah, it's a really complex topic and he didn't do enough mental prep.

The "internet" is way more varied than that, to "cut it out cold turkey". There's a REASON 1,000 niche industries thrived on the inherent lack of information before the internet age. Remember the point of Guinness Book of Records? It was to settle silly bar bets that could last for weeks or even months and ruin friendships. An hour on Snopes.com can usually fix that now... if not Guiness's own site!

Scammers? Except for the REALLY slick ones, they get busted say in about a month, and then their bust is permanently searchable forever.

Simple research? THAT's the gold mine we all take for granted! Print a quick map of new places, check the service hours, menus, shopping, etc etc etc, save *weeks* of your life in twelve days.

So no, while we have a *bit* too much info going on, just cut it back. All the news I specialize in, the IP/Copyright stuff, appears *nowhere else*. So thank you very much, I like my Internetz.

Less publicized, the other servers are going down too.

WatchSeries went down sometime this winter, and 1channel.ch seems to be struggling this week!

I haven't done research if these are man in the middle ISP attacks or not.

Hmm, Sept 2013? Does it take that long for good blogging software to be written!?

I have trouble keeping the Long Game in mind these days!  

I keep reading this title as "Microsoft Moron OS"

Heh that, but it's actually "animal-smart", aka not IQ-180 smart, but sneaky and threatening to work like the way no animals are "smart" but that won't keep them from ripping you to shreds.
 

"Thus I have heard!"

(The opening line to a lot of the Old School Buddhist sutras!)

 

[desktop as a service]

@40hz - Yepper scares me to.

Apparently Mohoro will be a way to use the Windows desktop in a software-as-a-service way, dubbed "desktop as a service."

Behold! ...Windows DaaStardly.

Maybe you all should bookmark this post and keep going back to it to see what's next. 

This is a cross between the religion thread and humor, but what if "textual scholarship" applied to net posts? Instead of the fairly hidden word "this", we can do Chapter and Verse from the Collected Writings of App103! Or the Academic style (1)!

(!) App103 in the December 9 2011 post at
http://www.donationcoder....29203.msg270859#msg270859

 

I like that smiley!

Where's the Double Facepalm one for the Picard jokes?
 

It's more amusing, in a sad sort of way, when you have the ads turned on and see this:
...

Yeah, I agree, hence my efforts in in the other thread to develop new ad ideas.
PS App what is your oDesk handle and how much do you charge?  

On another topic via ChrisG and you if you made a pre-priced app, it's not that $6 will break the bank, it's about trusting the payment mechanism. I trust DC (via that other payment processor I can't recall the name of!) and I trust oDesk.

I also like "Demand Draw" ads - consider for example all our random advice to each other! So then work backwards, contact those companies, and inquire about ad campaigns that *inform*!

You could have a list of "supported products/companies" and then you click your desired ad!

So basically "push ads" are so passe!