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51  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content] on: June 18, 2014, 08:44:30 AM
@TaoPhoenix: Well, the shirt is one thing - and it makes a pretty definite statement in its own right - but the "champion for the downtrodden" is a little different, because it is something that stems from the context of the American legal system and incentivisation to litigation, which itself is arguably a form of pestilence deliberately unleashed by the Americans.
Thus, to say "...that could change the world..." could arguably really be to say "that could rectify the gross injustices permitted and promulgated by the American legal-political system and inflicting Americans and often people from other nations alike."

Hmm, okay, so maybe I slightly overstated the phrasing, but one cool new thing about the net is we're seeing stories about other countries' legal systems that would have been almost impossible to learn about before. I think I recall you're in New Zealand, right? Just maybe I might have known that a lot of movies are filmed there, but there's no way old time newspapers would have carried a story about anyone like Kim Dotcom and related ministerial problems over there. But with the "echo-ripple" effect of viral news, there's thirty or more big blogs, so once one finds a story, everyone else spins it and then it all builds up until any four of your favorites has the story.

52  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content] on: June 18, 2014, 02:37:07 AM


I've remarked a few times that if one of the anonymous billionaires really wants to do some good for charity etc, they can be the silent bankroll partner for a good lawyer like this one. So it's not clear if that's the setup here, aka who can take on companies like Philip Morris cold, but part of all our grumpy bickering is there are far too few teams of good-guy lawyers for hire for the little guys.

It's a bit funny - lawyers aren't "with a party" like politicians tend to be. So just suppose as a thought experiment, imagine a team of *one hundred lawyers* (aka scary capacity) powered by about five of those 79 year old billionaires who have nothing to lose - that could change the world because all the two bit sharks know they can't just send a nasty letter and watch their charge roll over.

53  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: New Here on: June 18, 2014, 02:25:21 AM
Hi, everyone! I am Yong from China. And I am working in a software company too. It is very nice to join you. I will try my best to help solve problems!

Good for you! Welcome to DC!
54  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Stuff We Feel Like Bitching About on: June 17, 2014, 08:20:19 PM
Nobody using Ghostery for blocking ads? Although the source of this browser plug-in (all the main ones, except IE) might be considered questionable, I am using it to my satisfaction. it's the only blocker in my browser (FF) and even on the more...adult sites, it blocks beyond belief.

Wow. I've known about Ghostery for years. I have it, but I must have turned it off in some kind of test and forgot. I knew it blocked a lot of the "trackers", but most of them I wasn't that concerned about, but it seems to help with some of the sliders too. And it also looks like it greatly slows down the "pings".

Without getting all exhaustive, nice tip!

Now what then springs to mind is why does this have to be Ghostery, and AdBlock doesn't do that?

Also, a subset of the bitch-rant is that a lot of these things aren't in fact ads, they're native site content that just seems to want to slide stuff everywhere, like Sharing or Menus. So each of these sites wants to run like twelve scripts, of which seven are vital where the content doesn't even load without them, and the other five are the ones I hate. I don't have the energy to wade through that each time for forty sites, so I just hack my way around it all.

55  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Interesting "stuff" on: June 17, 2014, 12:56:55 AM
The world's luckiest unlucky man:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZyUWLW7kEI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZyUWLW7kEI</a>

That's epic Edvard!

56  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Stuff We Feel Like Bitching About on: June 17, 2014, 12:50:15 AM
I just hit another one.


It's ping.chartbeat.net and edge.simplereach.com

And here is your example of a Slider.

57  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Stuff We Feel Like Bitching About on: June 17, 2014, 12:45:31 AM
You and StoicJoker are far more tolerant than I am. My default for a while now has been to block everything.

This was one of my original points Renny. I have AdBlock on permanently, but these random things show up anyway. I have a "JS-Nuke" button on my browser that I can toggle, but then part of the time the page doesn't even load because some dev decided to make the content script driven.

I was saying I don't bother with things like NoScript and specific site prefs because I will only view something like the Kansas Star three times based on a Slashdot article. I have no energy to try to make a custom profile out of that. And even if I wanted to, I don't know how to allow the script that loads the page, but disallow the timed one that slides over and screams HEY RENNY! YOU'RE MY HERO! YOU'RE A MINOR DEITY! NOW READ THIS NEW ARTICLE YOU DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD!!

58  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: TrueCrypt is Now Abandonware?! on: June 17, 2014, 12:38:40 AM
One cool thing about DC is we have fewer but longer threads here. I get a lot of the early news from Slashdot but I never go back more than a day or two for older threads. Instead, here, however Mouser did it, we don't have nearly as many trolls, so longer threads get to develop and mature.

I have just given out a couple more of my Mouser Bucks recently. Slowly but steadily, DC is overtaking /. as my favorite site to visit! : )

59  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: silly humor - post 'em here! [warning some NSFW and adult content] on: June 17, 2014, 12:32:32 AM
Nice to see that Dan McCall's parody T-shirts have been allowed by the establishment, though not without a fight, it seems.
I think they are rather clever and make their point well.
It’s OK to parody the NSA | Ars Technica
Man who beat NSA in T-shirt parody case wins against Ready for Hillary | Ars Technica

That NSA one is the only one I'd consider wearing. "Oligarchy" is too tame. It's been various oligarchies in different sectors for a hundred years.

But that NSA one, that's one fighting shirt! But will we hear stories about 81 of the 100 customers mysteriously experience problems!?

60  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: TrueCrypt is Now Abandonware?! on: June 16, 2014, 03:19:25 PM
This however may also be a clearer proof there's such a hidden message than otherwise. Very few people bother to learn real Latin these days. And most of what does get presented as a Latin phrase is really just English run through Google trans.


...That's kinda where I was headed with it...and I really wanted to be wrong.

We're starting to get into meta territory where I smell a court case brewing. The strange part of that whole "neither ... *nor deny*" phrase is ... well... I deny getting a national security letter at my home!

But what people such as users want to know is the Confirm part that the recipient is not easily supposed to do. But sending these coded signals ... is (presumably) confirming it! So I don't get that if these agencies go to all this trouble to deliver these nasty letters, and the recipient sends a canary message, maybe the govt *can't* sue the recipient because that would confirm the letter!

Also, "The first rule of the NSA Letter Club is not to talk about the NSA Letter Club", does interesting things to the legendary court phrase "Truth, Whole Truth, and Nothing but the Truth". What do you even do? "I swear to tell as much of the Truth as I am legally allowed to"?!

61  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Stuff We Feel Like Bitching About on: June 16, 2014, 02:58:58 PM
So I'm currently debating on changing my fairness policy.

Google mostly got ads right with little text thingies.

For anyone wanting to be "fair", that's about the best compromise.

But two new categories are making me grumpy.

Besides those "sliders", some sites have a "share" button that when you mouse-over it, drops this huge sized list of the big five-ish media sites. Facebook, Twitter, and whatever. And it seems really hard to get rid of, more than 1 click elsewhere, more like six.

The other is a live continuing script where it spends all day hitting "ping.chartbeat.com" and whatever that other one is, measuring parts of how long you are on the page. Yep, a page view is not enough, now it wants a durational timer!

An honorable mention is that some admittedly NSFW sites have a script that spawns new windows that the pop-up blocker doesn't see.

So in a sense readers are losing the inflation race. "An article is always an article", but it's like the site landlords are raising the rent or whatever on what ads they want to hold the writer hostage with.

62  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: TrueCrypt alternative on: June 12, 2014, 09:41:55 PM
I would like to see a report on the still-ongoing project to audit TrueCrypt (which project website apparently also holds a full copy of all the software and code) before pronouncing it as "dead".
Presumably it was not for nothing that Amazon Web Services some time back mandated the use of only TrueCrypt for its encryption, if you wanted to use their secure storage services. That mandate would presumably have been made for solid business reasons, and they would not have entered into it lightly. That alone could spell more for TrueCrypt's longevity than any recent unexplained closure of the TrueCrypt website.
The best alternative to TrueCrypt could yet well be TrueCrypt.

Others more cynical than I might suggest that, if the TrueCrypt takedown was the result of being nobbled by the NSA (e.g., like the two encrypted email services over the last 12 months), then the TrueCrypt developers may have been left little option but to shut down, rather than be obliged to leave TrueCrypt fitted full of NSA backdoors like Symantec and Microsoft encryption have been rumoured to be.
It's all a matter of trust.

Another fascinating comment. I guess what's confusing me is to my knowledge encryption is "just an algorithm" so I'd think if you took "Iain B rulez!" it might spit out weflhjegehwgewig or whatever. But I'd think you ran the same process twice in exactly the same way (maybe even including timestamps), you're get the *same* gobledy gook, right?

So you'd think Amazon wouldn't mess around, and maybe at some conference they sent a rep to, he'd get to comparing notes and Google sez "Hey, your output in your test case is different from mine. What's up with that?"

So even if the NSA is putting back doors in there, aren't we back to that famous discussion of "security via obscurity"? That the NSA is gambling that the back doors it's putting in there can't be found by anyone else?

And I'm still not happy with "the devs got tired and bored so they dumped their product." How would you normally end-of-life a security encryption suite? I'd think Bruce Schneier's alarm bells and maybe connections must be as good as anyone else's, so I'm sure he's been reviewing TrueCrypt forever, so maybe prior versions *used* to be good and only a *new* NSA letter threatens future editions. And I'm also amazed how no one can "find" the developers to hear their side. With how tricky the non-reveal clauses are, if someone called the devs and gets hung up on, "no words are many words" just like the did to the website.

And then the community - let's say a backdoor is in there, I'd think they would be pissed that their entire collective study and review of the program would miss them.

63  Main Area and Open Discussion / Non-Windows Software / Re: NIX: KDE anyone? First thoughts. on: June 12, 2014, 09:19:08 PM
It's been to long for me to remember any of this, but what I vaguely recall was just that it was just different enough from Good ol' Win XP that it was annoying me. Specifically the right click menu options felt strange. Prob MS has some kind of patent on what 12 commands can be in a menu or whatever, but it slowed me down. It would possibly be like trying to learn driving in Britain - lots of people do their thing quite nicely, but darn I'm not good enough of a driver to have THAT reflex messed with!

And because I was only just dabbling with a cheap box from best buy, I never really got going with any of the apps. Then one day uBuntu dropped a key driver between editions that hosed the box for all future Ubuntu distros up to however far I got. I did find a sub-sub distro with the driver back, but around then I was just growing tired of it all.

64  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: WinXP is officially dead! on: June 11, 2014, 01:31:37 PM

For a small indy developer, I think it comes down to accepting XP is now an orphan which will remain running until the inevitable major malware attack finally renders it unsafe to use under any circumstances. ...

...it's not a good idea to appear to be working at cross purposes to Microsoft. You could get taken off distribution for all the inside info (i.e the type of detail you usually need an invite and a signed non-disclosure agreement to get access to) that big devs rely on for their own product development efforts. If Microsoft says XP is over - then it's over as far as these guys are concerned.

And I daresay I am part of the problem who will continue to use XP even after major malware attacks! Just because I think this is a special time in computing history. The OS gang seems to want to flip their OS's really fast - MS catching up to Apple and Linux in that respect. Other than that I am a laggard, the basic run of XP feels about right to me - nice and steady. This "We'll stop supporting an OS after about four or fewer years" really makes me nervous!

This comment surprised me, and it's why I gave out one of my MouserBucks to 40hz just now. I get it if devs are just playing simple economics; while it doesn't make me happy, at least chapter 3 of the economics text explains it. And a few of the devs of my favorite apps at least promise to try to support it for a couple more years.

It's a whole other level of sinister if MS decides to get vicious and start playing "leverage games". Fine, stop supporting the OS for your own reasons, but don't turn around and start pressuring the devs of apps with information access blackmail!!

65  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: WinXP registry hack enables further security updates on: June 11, 2014, 01:19:12 PM
Yeah I just found those too, and they made me nervous compared to the prev updates as discussed in that original sensational article.

"Security Updates for XP" from the first set has a way different sound than "Update for Wepos and POSready 2009".

So I turned Auto Update totally off for now. And per my initial comment, that original article was all news of the week, but it's much harder to find info on what these new ones are doing for people who took that initial suggestion!

66  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: WinXP is officially dead! on: June 11, 2014, 01:14:42 PM
I meant I wouldn't blame MS and others for not wanting to support XP anymore. No matter how good or bad 7 or 8.

I can understand Microsoft not wanting to support it, since they are not going to make any more money from XP if they do or don't, so they might as well not, and push XP users into upgrading and putting more money in their pockets. That does make sense.

What I don't understand is 3rd party developers that make their money off supporting their apps running on whatever platforms their customers are using. If there are still a large chunk of people running XP, why turn them away from buying and using your software, by not supporting XP? Flushing all that cash down the toilet is kind of self-defeating, don't you think?

Well I dunno if it's cash, I don't have many "subscriptions" going. But for me it's an Ill Will thing. I don't really feel I'm in any shape to upgrade right now. So I just wish the devs would roll out their updates to XP as well. A bunch of them have.

67  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Antilock-breaking (ABS) vs Stabilty Control (ESP) vs Traction Control Video on: June 11, 2014, 01:09:57 PM
@SeraphimLabs - Are you psychic or something? If your posts got any closer to what is going through my head I'd have to start getting paranoid!
Wink cheesy

That's why I invited him to DC - because he has a lot to offer!
thumbs up
68  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Stuff We Feel Like Bitching About on: June 10, 2014, 08:54:18 PM
A new angle:

What is with all these new sliding javascript teasers!?

I don't do NoScript; too many programs need scripts. But lots of the "news" sites are now sliding huge banners across my screen!


The sticky point is AdBlock doesn't capture them. So the best I can do is super-quick hit my JS disabler ad-on and reload. But then half the page doesn't load. Yuk.

69  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Interesting "stuff" on: June 10, 2014, 07:28:41 PM
Good stuff on the chem video.

That Photocopier video has been posted here before but I forget exactly which thread, either this one or the humor thread.

70  DonationCoder.com Software / Finished Programs / Re: [SOLVED] Ctrl+Alt+Del on: June 10, 2014, 07:16:02 PM
Heh sorry for always being the humanities kid in the coding room, but here goes:

What does Control-Escape even do? C-A-D I know, it's legendary. But I guess I'm a wee bit perturbed I've hung out on this forum for a couple of years and Slashdot for a *decade* and browsed my share of misc articles and I've never even *heard* of that combo!

I get the gist easily, you wanna disable the "tricks" so that script-kiddie-level twerps don't go fiddling with embedded kiosk software, but I've just never run across that combo. (And have I missed a useful trick all these years?!)

71  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Favorite Sci-fi movies? on: June 10, 2014, 01:06:54 PM
It's also a bit of a visual nod to the famous Scopes Monkey Trial in the US where a substitute high school teacher went on trial in 1925 ...

The legal battle to teach evolutionary theory continues to this day in America.

Oh, thanks, I didn't know that about the US "Scopes Monkey Trial". Amazing. There's something new to learn every day. I would guess that the POTA producers had some fun juxtaposing the contradictions in human society with those in the ape society. "Stupid apes! Oops, that means stupid humans too!" Reminds me of the fun they had in that clever Star Trek episode where the people who lived on two planets circling the same star were perpetually at war - the people on each planet were identical humanoids, except that the ones on planet A had faces which were black on the left vertical half, and white on the right, and the people on planet B had the opposite.

I also had noticed that (as you said) "The legal battle to teach evolutionary theory continues to this day in America.". That's pretty amazing too.
It's all very confusing. There are two main camps. The Theory of Evolution was apparently developed from Darwin's rational thought and observations, and he was a devout Christian, yet the Creationist "theory" is an irrational religio-political ideology favoured by the Christians - and the Islamists too, come to think of it. Mind you, the Islamists apparently also hold that the Jews are descended from apes and pigs, which is kinda half right per Evolutionary Theory, so they (Islamists) seem to have a foot in both camps to some extent, except the pig thing confuses the heck out of me.

I reckon 2001 could have got it spot-on in any event. We had some help from dem aliens...

Interesting that we don't do more with the franky amazing internet in school. I'd heard of the Scopes Monkey trial "backwards" through the play "Inherit the Wind" which (wait for it ... according to Wikipedia) does take a couple of dramatic finesses to make it watchable in the context of the 1950's Red Scare environment.

But look now, whenever I see new stuff, I just open a new browser tab, select either regular or Wiki search, and then pull up something, and I learn more "tangentially" in an hour than I could have learned in *years* old school style.

72  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: WinXP is officially dead! on: June 10, 2014, 01:02:06 PM
From some point of time in the month of July  Java will no longer support XP.

Got any documentation on that? Java 8 already doesn't support XP, I know that, but I haven't seen any annoucement about older versions, other than Java 7 going EOL from July 15th.  (Yeah, I've been watching Oracle quite closely for Java releases)

This is the angle that's starting to worry me.

It's one thing when MS doesn't support the OS anymore, but then all the secondary and tertiary people aren't either.

It was a long time ago, but it didn't feel this way way back in the day when Win 98 and Win 2000 dropped out of support. I had independently moved to a new comp more from hardware perspectives, so it didn't matter. But I really tried very very hard and won when I built my current project machine to make it last "almost forever" and except for a few suspicious glitches, I basically don't need anything else, so it's the "heavy" tone of the current environment that's bothering me. (Silly vampire novels aside, I specifically named it "Twilight" because I designed it to carry through the end of XP and this year it's mission is official.)

I'm not exactly in the "XP Rulez forever" camp. Win 7 is a strong contender, esp because at my other job I learned how to flip stuff back to usability. It's more like I need one of those "game show rewards" to just magically take and replace absolutely everything and replace the backbone and reload everything. I just don't have the energy to do that right now even if I magically had the money.

Plus a little part of me "feels sad for the hardware" and wants to know if my very best effort from 2006 can run the most brutally stripped copy of Win 9 which was the final design goal I envisioned way back, because then that's new enough to ride it off into the horizon for its design mission goal.

73  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Interesting "stuff" on: June 10, 2014, 10:51:24 AM
^That's come up with this 'test' in the past.

There's been some research and debate over whether letting the test subject know there's the possibility of a machine in the equation also affects people's judgement. And whether endowing the computer agent with some sort of persona is a positive or a negative addition to the mix.

In the end, I don't think it really matters. People will knowingly accept falsehood as truth if they're sufficiently motivated to do so. So the fact a certain percentage of people are fooled doesn't really say that much that you can take and run with as is. But that doesn't make it any less interesting or worthy of further study. Because each iteration seems to generate even more significant questions about human consciousness and perception.  That's why I love things like the Turing Test. We often learn as much about ourselves as we do the thing we're trying to study.

That can only be a good thing.  Thmbsup


And I dabbled for a couple of days way back with the idea of a Turing program in one of the old AOL chat rooms (where they wouldn't be informed). Aka if the overall ambient intelligence of the environment is reduced, it's easier to pass!

But forgetting where I saw the remarks, I now like better a new test where it's less about "fooling" than "different but sufficient" "intelligence".

One of my longest little thought experiments on this stuff is building a system with one of the old Pentium 1 chips stuck in the middle of it. So sure the hard crunching is done by the newer cores, but somewhere in there the machine "can't trust" itself. So then you build in a meta routine that tells itself that! That forces a fundamental new type of computing.

So when you ask it "when will this comet next pass Earth", instead of peeling out an answer like 2.673 days, the machine has to say something else like "About two and a half days". And when you go into "Chat Mode", the machine knows why it's flawed and has a routine that says stuff like "Sorry, I just can't get any more accurate than that because of my design".

74  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Antilock-breaking (ABS) vs Stabilty Control (ESP) vs Traction Control Video on: June 10, 2014, 09:27:36 AM
Tough call here.

Driving reflexes are a bit tricky, and if two types of vehicles "encourage" opposite styles of driving like this whole ABS discussion, that feels tricky. I don't know what to think. I'm only a mediocre driver, and in an emergency I don't think I'm fast enough to figure out which of two braking reflexes I should be using!

75  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Interesting "stuff" on: June 10, 2014, 09:13:40 AM
Well, replacing "Ukraine" with any number of other countries, I think it's an interesting twist on the Turing problem to "adjust" people's reactions.
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