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51  Other Software / Developer's Corner / Re: Markdown (and what do you do when a community outgrows your contribution) on: September 08, 2014, 03:46:18 PM
They've been trying for the whole two years that they worked on it.

I didn't quite get that impression.  I noted that there is a mention of talking with him when they started (2 years ago) -- not clear how serious that attempt to talk was -- and then 2 weeks before release.. But I couldn't tell if they had talked to him any time in between.

Essentially I think we are on the same page -- that when something like this is released as open source, the natural interpretation is that it's going to be a project that the community can improve and evolve forward -- either led by the original creator, or by others entrusted by the community.

And I've already made clear that I believe standardization -- especially in the form it was done here -- is a good and important thing.

So the only real question in my mind is what you do when the original inventor becomes an obstacle to the continuing use and development of the project.

And I think my position is that when this happens, and attempts to convince the original inventor to join the team fails, that perhaps the best solution is to make a clean break from the original name of the invention and come up with a clearly different name -- even though that could lead to some (initial or continuing) confusion for users.

52  Other Software / Developer's Corner / Re: Markdown (and what do you do when a community outgrows your contribution) on: September 08, 2014, 09:01:58 AM
So I finally had a chance to read through the comments in the second codinghorror/stackoverflow post (here), and I guess I can see part of the argument being made on behalf of Gruber, which I interpret something like this: "There is a person who clearly invented this thing called Markdown, and you can't just publish something that you name in a way that makes it sound like the official standard version of it, against the will of the creator, even if that person is being an asshole.  You should have tried harder and earlier to contact the original inventor, and you certainly shouldn't have tried to be cheeky on day 2 by changing the name from 'standard markdown' to 'common markdown' and act like that was the end of the issue."

As someone who thinks the original creator is entitled to some real deference, and as someone who has always been uncomfortable about the possibility of forks of opensource projects being used to take control away from the creator of a project, even if they are unreasonable bastards, I have some natural sympathy for the position of the original author..

Anyway, I think the lessons are pretty clear for the rest of us:
  • Work harder to get the original author to be part of your project.
  • At the very least, determine if the original author is going to be a jerk about improving their creation, or is against your idea.
  • If the original author is going to make it impossible for you to use the name of their project, for whatever reason, find another starting point and let go of the idea of using that product as a starting point.
53  Other Software / Developer's Corner / Re: If programming languages were weapons on: September 07, 2014, 11:15:35 AM
Ha! Nice find.
54  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: An ode to my failed disk drive on: September 06, 2014, 08:40:08 PM
on a more serious note, it sounds like it might still be under warranty?
55  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Animal Friends thread on: September 06, 2014, 06:04:31 PM
A cat and her doll:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlyNs8p-ygg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlyNs8p-ygg</a>
56  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Tech/Science News + Some Other Things (From Around The Web) on: September 06, 2014, 05:17:46 PM
Excellent tech news edition!  thumbs up
57  DonationCoder.com Software / Screenshot Captor / Re: by the time I got to this forum on: September 06, 2014, 05:16:21 PM

Thank you for taking the time to post -- I apologize for the frustration.
techsupportalert is arguably the best freeware website on the planet, so it's particularly painful to hear about your bad experience.

Can I just quickly say, that you don't actually need to sign up and get a key to use the program -- you will get that little "box" on startup asking you to visit our website and get a key, but even if you don't do that the program will run fine with full features and never expire and only ever show that box when you start it.

And that if you wanted to remove that "nag" box on startup you could download a license key from our website with or without signing up at our forum, and without donating.

And lastly, that I am always happy to send a non-expiring license key to anyone who emails and lets me know that they've considered donating but will not be doing so.

Over the almost 10 years that DonationCoder has been operating, we've been trying to do things a little differently, and keep to our principles, but one of the things that has suffered somewhat is that the procedure for getting the license keys has become a bit confusing and is often misunderstood -- or understood but resented for its complexity.  And for that I apologize and I think we do need to find a way to do better.

Anyway, long story short -- if you do decide to try our software again, don't hesitate to contact us or post with further feedback or to ask for assistance.  We are a friendly little family here and we try to make up for our other weaknesses by being helpful here on the forum smiley
58  DonationCoder.com Software / Dr.Windows / Re: Dr.Windows web-based version on: September 06, 2014, 05:08:35 PM
Thanks for sharing.  thumbs up
59  Other Software / Developer's Corner / Re: Markdown (and what do you do when a community outgrows your contribution) on: September 05, 2014, 07:36:36 PM
They seem to be bending over backwards to respect the wishes of Gruber, and naming it "CommonMark" seems like a nice thing to do.

I do think, as an outsider, this episode would be sufficient for me to decide to move to CommonMark and to completely switch away from any other form of markdown other than CommonMark.  By nature I begin by deferring to the original authors (in this case Gruber) in terms of who I think should get the benefit of deference when it comes to establishing a standard.  And if this was a case of COMPETING standards, I would no doubt line up behind Gruber in terms of opposing the efforts of other groups to establish an alternative standard using the name "Markdown".

But if the choice is between two well-meaning groups, one attempting to define a standard to solve the very real problem of incompatible and inconsistent variants and the lack of a specification and standard, and the other resisting such efforts -- I'm going to line up behind those trying to establish a standard.
60  Other Software / Developer's Corner / Re: Markdown (and what do you do when a community outgrows your contribution) on: September 05, 2014, 01:24:53 PM
Seems like having a common standard is a good idea to me, and it seems pretty obvious to me that having an unambiguous specification is a good thing.
I can understand people vying for different versions of what should be the standard, but i can't see a good argument for not having one.
61  DonationCoder.com Software / Post New Requests Here / Re: window region to full-screen mode on: September 05, 2014, 10:13:45 AM
The original request is really not a bad idea at all -- surely there are some existing magnify tools for visually imparied that do just this, right?  I mean we know there are zoom/magnify tools -- the post is just asking for one that will do a nice job of magnifying to a full screen.
62  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Your favorite podcasts? on: September 04, 2014, 05:23:41 PM
I have seen Marc Maron on tv a few times and have never been a fan, but a friend recently turned me on to his podcast around the time that Robin Williams died (he had a pretty heavy interview with Robin Williams).

He has now done more than 500 podcasts -- which are 30-60 minutes in length and are mostly just one on one interviews with someone in comedy or music business.  I've been really impressed with them -- they are adult discussions, at times funny, sad, vulnerable, deep, etc.



Highly recommended.  What other podcasts do you guys listen to?

63  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: The One Word Game! on: September 04, 2014, 10:51:55 AM
I know this is my own pet peeve, but if you've already posted a few times to a thread like this, maybe it would be appropriate to hang back and let the time between posts get long enough to encourage some new posters.
64  Special User Sections / N.A.N.Y. 2013 / Re: Easy Screencast Recorder - NANY 2013 Entry on: September 03, 2014, 06:35:27 PM
Anyone else?
65  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: My cat needs your thoughts | RIP Saffron my dearest cat on: September 03, 2014, 02:43:07 PM
keep your senses alert for signs of Saffron.

While I don't believe in such things, two days ago while walking through town a very youthful cat on a lawn ran to me to be petted.  There were no people around.  He seemed happy and super friendly and care free.  But when I tried to pick him up he was determined to be put back down, after which he was happy again to be petted.

I decided to interpret this as a message from Saffron that she still remembers me but that her spirit is happy and renewed and glad to be set free from and not be bound any more by her earthly shackles.

As I said, I do not believe in ghosts or things like that -- it's that I am choosing to interpret this event in a way that gives me some peace of mind.
66  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Animal Friends thread on: September 03, 2014, 12:07:06 PM
Loyal Dog Goes 15 Days without Food Guarding His Teenage Master’s Grave

Bhaskar was a construction worker who loved dogs dearly – he had adopted Tommy five years ago and the pair of them quickly became inseparable. When Bhaskar became victim to a terrible road collision, Tommy was heartbroken. The dog simply refused to part with his master and mourned by his graveside for 15 days.


67  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: The One Word Game! on: September 03, 2014, 08:18:44 AM
68  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Sponsor me! 100 miles in 10 Days for Charity on: September 02, 2014, 09:46:59 PM
10 miles x 10 days in a row?
That sounds crazy.  I'm going to donate but i'd still feel better if you didn't try to complete it if it risks injury.
69  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Interesting study comparing reading on paper vs tablets on: September 01, 2014, 09:13:33 AM
Interesting study comparing reading on paper vs tablets:

In most respects, there was no significant difference between the Kindle readers and the paper readers: the emotional measures were roughly the same, and both groups of readers responded almost equally to questions dealing with the setting of the story, the characters and other plot details. But, the Kindle readers scored significantly lower on questions about when events in the story occurred.

Article: http://www.nytimes.com/20...for-convenience.html?_r=0

Found on http://gadgetopia.com/post/9125
70  DonationCoder.com Software / Coding Snack Guidelines / Re: Finding the path of a file on your computer on: September 01, 2014, 08:35:40 AM
I still like the idea of the original poster's request -- a (tray) utility (or FARR plugin) that showed a menu of the most recently used PATHS, and would open the folder on click.  It's slightly different functionality than being able to open the file itself.
71  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: collaborative software, note strong, for small biz on: August 31, 2014, 02:41:22 PM
Have you tried google docs?
72  DonationCoder.com Software / Coding Snack Guidelines / Re: Finding the path of a file on your computer on: August 31, 2014, 12:05:18 PM
Nice find, but MRU is not built into FARR, it's an excellent plugin written by dc member phitsc:
73  Other Software / Developer's Corner / Re: Ludum Dare 30: August 22-25, 2014 on: August 31, 2014, 03:06:13 AM
I can't tell you how impressed I am with the way you tackle these.  Not just your ability to follow through and consistently finish and submit an entry, but that you go the extra mile and write up the experience and document it.

As for your entry, I liked it!!  The sounds and the movement felt satisfying -- I find that's a hard thing for developers to get right in a game, and yours worked for me.  And the puzzle mechanic was pretty damn clever.

I loved the tutorial level and the text boxes that accompanied it -- I think you captured a nice Cthulhu spirit.

I did have some initial trouble understanding the rules, despite the tutorial.. Took me some time to figure out the critical idea about planet size, and the shield generators could be a little hard to see.

But seriously, this was a damn impressive entry  thumbs up thumbs up thumbs up
74  DonationCoder.com Software / Coding Snack Guidelines / Re: Finding the path of a file on your computer on: August 30, 2014, 06:00:42 PM
A tray utility that showed RECENT files and RECENT folders when clicked would solve this and be a nice coding snack..
75  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Recommend some music videos to me! on: August 30, 2014, 12:34:47 PM
Local garage band I recently stumbled across and love, Wolves to Whales:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8i2yKT1Zpg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8i2yKT1Zpg</a>
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