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Dunno... Just doesn't work. That's what I was trying before, but if it can't see anything, there's not much I can do.

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Nothing shows up.

Mind you, I'm running it inside of VMware... Need to check it out first...

So, yeah, it is looking that difficult from where I'm standing.

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Does anyone know how to create a Windows VM (or anything) in Proxmox VE? The docs are basically non-existant, and the ones that show you how to mount an ISO are way out of date and not applicable to v2.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUxrdTvaQvU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUxrdTvaQvU</a>

Their channel is here.

Eloquence aside, it's not very difficult IMHO. 

Fantastic! Thanks for the link! I'll get on that ASAP.


Some software just has a very different approach, so I sometimes miss things. e.g. I started up an ecommerce site with osCommerce and had a heck of a time figuring out the module system as it was "counter-intuitive" compared to other CMSes that I've used. But, once you "see" how it works, it's simple.

[unless you have an established government standing behind your monetary system]

It also shows that, despite many people's romantic fascination with "alternate currencies," unless you have an established government standing behind your monetary system, it's little more than an interesting social experiment so far.

Your currency is only as good as the reputation and strength of whatever is backing it. As many 'revolutionary' governments discovered the hard way when they first came into power. And it's only as 'safe' as your ability to protect it.

The hack had ZERO to do with Bitcoin. The exact same tactics could be used to steal from your Paypal account or anything. It only illustrates that social engineering is still the bread & butter of cyber crime.

e.g. I use the same kinds of tactics used by Rand to mine public data on 40hz. I hijack 40hz.com DNS, then well, game over. Same exact deal.

Lesson learned? Never let anyone know your mother's maiden name, and always tell everyone that you're a simple orphan bastard.

As for Bitcoin, you might want to look at it again. What you think you know may be out of date.

It also shows that, despite many people's romantic fascination with "alternate currencies," unless you have an established government standing behind your monetary system, it's little more than an interesting social experiment so far.

This is quite wrong. However, the Basement is the proper place for that discussion. (Sorry. )

Your currency is only as good as the reputation and strength of whatever is backing it.

Reputations can be ruined in a day.

The strength is the only thing that matters. But I have a feeling that we're not going to agree on what constitutes "strength" for a currency. The other thing is that any discussion there will quickly get us sent to the Basement. I've got a feeling that monetary policy and all that won't sit well with a lot of people. That whole cognitive dissonance thing and all. So - I'll drop it and keep to the social engineering stuff as that's plenty fun anyways~!

Does anyone know how to create a Windows VM (or anything) in Proxmox VE? The docs are basically non-existant, and the ones that show you how to mount an ISO are way out of date and not applicable to v2.

You are making my point more eloquently than I did.

Yeah, I suppose so.

I had glitches with Synergy, but overall, it's running very well once I got over that 1 little hurdle.

For Proxmox VE, I'm guessing that there will be a few things like this.

But with a lot of good software, you do end up with a learning curve or a few hurdles in the beginning. I'm ok with a little bit in this instance as I'm basically trying to run a server style of system for my desktops.

Right now this is just the investigation phase. So, I'm ok with glitches for now. I don't plan on migrating for a little while, and am in no real rush. If I were in a rush, I'd ditch Proxmox VE right now. (Just kind of hoping that 40 chimes in with an answer. hint hint )

Interesting little article on how some thieves social engineered themselves into stealing $12k in bitcoins:

http://www.wired.com/wire...-off-12000-bitcoin-heist/

The criminals were able to take control of Bitinstant’s internet domains by convincing its domain registrar, Site5, to hand over control of the company’s Domain Name Service, or DNS. “Armed with knowledge of my place of birth and mother’s maiden name alone (both facts easy to locate on the public record) they convinced Site5 staff to add their email address to the account and make it the primary login,” the company said Monday in a blog post detailing the incident.

It has nothing to do with Bitcoin security, but does show that social engineering still works.

Does anyone know how to create a Windows VM (or anything) in Proxmox VE? The docs are basically non-existant, and the ones that show you how to mount an ISO are way out of date and not applicable to v2.

[Does anyone have any recommendations for a host OS?]

You really need to think about what you are asking for.  You want to run Windows and other proprietary software in a non-proprietary and open environment, but you want the reliability and support that comes with proprietary software.  TINSTAAFL !!!

You missed what I was asking for. My main FLOSS concern is for my desktop OS - not the host OS. What I want from the host OS is reliability.

1) I wasn't explicit here, but the context follows in the second paragraph.

I've been mulling over how to escape from the clutches of proprietary and closed software. Not an easy task.

I think that I've come to the conclusion that my next OS needs to be a host OS to run virtual machines in. I can then entirely forget about all this disk cloning nonsense and reinstalling the OS silliness. If I need to back up my "work OS/VM", I can just copy it. Heck, I could run it off of a USB drive and share it between physical machines.

2) The further context falls in here.

Does anyone have any recommendations for a host OS? The most important thing is that it is reliable and will let me run multiple VMs simultaneously. e.g. My main work VM (Windows), and a Linux VM for me to transition everything that doesn't absolutely 100% need to be done in Windows.

i.e. The host OS is to help me escape from MS and use Linux as my main OS. My requirement for the host OS is reliability and multiple VMs. FLOSS isn't a requirement for the host OS, but would be nice.

I'm not a big fan of Microsoft or VMware as corporate entities, but they do provide the most reliable and flexible working environment, which means I can get my work done while wasting a minimal amount of time trying to get everything to work together.

Right now I'm playing with Proxmox VE in VMware Workstation. I'm not dead set against using VMware - I paid for a license after all - but I would like to try to avoid it *if possible*.

VMware runs on Windows, Linux and Mac (Fusion) hosts, but Windows provides the best host environment.  VMware Workstation 9 is a quantum leap forward over previous versions because of its virtual networking, which makes it dead simple to run a local network of VMs on a single host or over a LAN.  The virtualization manager in Paragon HD Manager Pro makes it easy to create VMs from physical systems .

One of the reasons I'd like to try and move to a pure VE as a host OS instead of a desktop OS is that desktops take up a lot of resources, and Windows still suffers from stability issues thanks to wonderful display drivers. (I think what Linus Torvalds had to say to NVIDIA about sums it up - someone posted a video of him around here somewhere.)

However, I'm using VMware 7, and unless there is a REALLY REALLY REALLY compelling reason to upgrade, I just won't. Networking in 7 works just fine for me.

I should look into that Paragon HD Manager Pro though -- that sounds very sweet!

(I want to move my current Windows installation into a VM if possible and use it that way instead of being anchored to an SSD. The idea of copying the OS as a file is just uber-sexy!)

I could probably get much the same results from a mix of FOSS elements, but life is too short, and there are other things for me to do with my time.

I'm at the research and experimentation stage right now. So I'm willing to spend *a little* time figuring out what will work. I refuse to invest a huge amount of time on this though. If I'm forced into using a paid solution due to time costs, I will. It would simply be nice to avoid the proprietary world for the host OS if possible -- for freedom and cash concerns both.

Like you said, life is short.


 

He said something about levels and that, so I figured there might be something that I'm missing.

I just tried installing ProxMox in a VM so I could test it first. I can't seem to figure out how to configure it without having to connect to it via web browser from another PC. That's lame. I want to use the machine I put it on. Not access it from another PC.

I can see why that is. It's meant for data centers, and not home use. You're expected to have other machines running. This isn't really much of a problem for me though.

However, installing a Windows VM inside it is a problem... I'm stuck. I don't see any docs on how to do it, and it won't seem to let me select an ISO file to use.

Any hints on how to actually get a VM running in Proxmox VE?

I tried it before, and tried it again now, but all it does in scroll the same screen. Nothing happens. Ok, so I can run. That's really fun for dogs, but, I'm not a dog. Well, unless you check my avatar, but that's not *really* me.

But more seriously, exactly who is the master here? And who is dancing to who's tune?

Because when it comes to ownership of IP - the biggies aren't necessarily US companies...

From the folks at TechDirt comes this bit of curious info:

True enough. Above I was confusing the company with the shareholders. But I guess it's good to know exactly who the shareholders for Washington D.C. Inc. are.

Speaking of, what's the ticker symbol for Washington? I think I'd like to short it.

When is this country ever going to wake up?

Um, never? Otherwise I'd probably go long.

I presume you want something more like a hypervisor on your hardware, not something like Virtualbox that runs inside an O/S. 

Exactly. I want to run VMs inside of a host environment, whatever that is.

I had pulled down an older VMware hypervisor but could not bring myself to install it (I despise VMware). 

Sigh, yeah... I'd like to stay away from VMware if possible. My goal is to achieve computing independence from vendors, e.g. As much FLOSS as possible. That discussion belongs in the Basement though.

Have not had enough time to play with Xen personally, though I have rights to muck about with my company's Xen farm enough to cause trouble.

Hahaha! I believe that my VPS is running in Xen. Not sure. But it's one of the things I've got on my list. If anyone can say a few words about it, I'd be very interested.

For your Windows box, try disk2vhd from Sysinternals to pull an image to a file.  I made a copy of a box just recently and it worked fine (in Virtualbox) with minor mucking about.  You'll most likely need to reactivate to keep Microsoft happy, of course.

Ah! Didn't know about that. I'll check it out. I'd LOVE to get my desktop into a VM. All this cloning nonsense is just way too painful. I want my main desktop OS to be portable as I'm entirely sick and tired of new installs and all that misery. There are a couple threads on similar topics right now - one on a new SSD and all that... pain, misery, ouch...

So who gets to decide what's right or wrong?

I'll reply in the basement.

  The day before yesterday it was almost 80 degrees, last night I had my fireplace roaring.  Such is the weather in Texas.  We have a saying down here, if you don't like the weather, just wait 5 minutes.....

Hahaha!

Same deal here. You get 4 seasons in a day. Cold rainy morning leads to a blisteringly hot and humid afternoon, then a chilly evening with showers. It's just all over the place. My neighbor told me the same joke - Don't like the weather in Melbourne? Just wait 5 minutes. -- Exactly the same!

Nice and hot out today though. I shaved my head when I first got here, then learned the hard way just how strong the sun is down under. I had a "crusty cap" for a while.

I figure the best time to start complaining with weather is when your car engine block freezes and it won't start - then you can complain about the car.

[Does anyone have any recommendations for a host OS?]

I've been mulling over how to escape from the clutches of proprietary and closed software. Not an easy task.

I think that I've come to the conclusion that my next OS needs to be a host OS to run virtual machines in. I can then entirely forget about all this disk cloning nonsense and reinstalling the OS silliness. If I need to back up my "work OS/VM", I can just copy it. Heck, I could run it off of a USB drive and share it between physical machines.

Does anyone have any recommendations for a host OS? The most important thing is that it is reliable and will let me run multiple VMs simultaneously. e.g. My main work VM (Windows), and a Linux VM for me to transition everything that doesn't absolutely 100% need to be done in Windows.

Also, has anyone ever heard of a way to move an OS from a physical disk into a VM?

Given that background, if the Yanks were seen to be pulling a similarly perfidious "Prieur and Mafart-type" manoeuvre to force NZ to overturn their normal and proper judicial/legal process, then in NZ they will probably be held in the same low regard as France, and it will leave a similarly very bitter taste in the mouths of the loyal NZ public, who cherish their freedom and their independence, and who tend to have long memories and use their vote wisely.

I certainly hope so. Because despite being the setting for Jackson's Middlearth, NZ does not loom very large in the psyche of most Americans. AFAIK NZ is not an official (as in 'by treaty') ally of the US or Nato. And there is still rancor in certain circles over that ban on US Navy vessels in NZ ports which has gone on for the last thirty or so years. So if the citizens of NZ were to develop a sudden contempt for Americans, it likely wouldn't register as even the tiniest of blips on the radar screen of general public awareness here in the USA. Not that that should matter to anybody in NZ. Or stop its people from doing what is right.
 

What are you talking about?

Those damn Kiwis are nothing but lawless criminal terrorists! Better invade now and pre-empt their designs on world-wide anarchy! Bomb them Kiwi terrorists now! Stop the rape of the civilized world! Nuke NZ!

Oh, yeah... they just want to avoid the fate of other countries that have defied the US masters... I'll shut up now. Carry on...

Woohoo! I have the least used PIN # of them all~! YAY~!

Errr... No. I don't have the least used PIN. Mine is different. More people use it! Yeah, that's it. A semi-not-popular PIN.

They work for physical entry, but are irrelevant in the online digital age.

Some banks have 6 digit passwords for accounts. Just how stupid are the people that make these decisions? Mind you, you still need to know the account # or ID or login name, but still. The only impediment to brute forcing these kinds of passwords is how fast you can switch VPNs, which if you have full raw sockets and can create multiple connections, that's pretty much solved.

My jaw just goes slack in amazement when I look at some online banking security...

One of my banks is extremely good with security. A real bitch to get working properly, but multiple levels of security that are virtually impossible to get past -- multiple passwords and a physical token.

Clone your drive to the SSD if possible. However, the SSD must be as large or larger than your current system drive.

If you have a Samsung SSD, they have a program called "Magician" that helps you do it.

Keep in mind that you'll need to reboot for all this and likely need to create a bootable USB or CD for the cloning software, etc.

Um, this chair is a fire hazard.

Notice the smoke?

Yeah, that nichrome is getting too hot while melting the wax, the chair could ignite the flammable wax and cause a far more serious problem than just a DRM'd chair.

Are you trying to say that people that buy the chair are just looking to get burned?

Is this accurate?

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Well, I read this post shortly after you posted it, and have been trying to think of what to remove from what I'd like to say other than everything.

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I'm drawing a blank.

Perhaps I could ask a question... What if regular people did the same thing? It is all legal after all, right?

Perhaps we're mistaking "legal" and "ethical" when we approach these topics. My belief is that they are not the same, but then again, I could be mistaken. Perhaps whatever is passed into law is necessarily ethical?

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Sigh...

http://www.huffingtonpost...786839.html?utm_hp_ref=tw

US Wins Appeal In Battle To Extradite Kim Dotcom

The United States on Friday won a court appeal in its battle to extradite Internet entrepreneur Kim Dotcom from New Zealand.

A New Zealand appeals court overturned an earlier ruling that would have allowed Dotcom broad access to evidence in the case against him at the time of his extradition hearing, which is scheduled for August. The appeals court ruled that extensive disclosure would bog down the process and that a summary of the U.S. case would suffice.

Huh? A summary of the US case is sufficient? Are these people joking?

[at what stage in your life you find yourself liking it]

@Ren: LOL! And touché. 

I thought you'd find that entertaining~!

But seriously, +1 for what you had above.

There is a lot of material (movies, music, etc.) that I used to like, but don't, and others that I didn't like, but now do.

And since our tastes evolve - and at what stage in your life you find yourself liking it.

A keen insight that deserves some emphasis.

I think it comes down to the difference between art and entertainment. Some movies are entertaining. Some are genuine works of art. Occasionally you'll find one that's a rare combination of both.

But in the end it's not so much a matter of what's "good" or "bad." It's just a matter of what you like. And since our tastes evolve - and at what stage in your life you find yourself liking it.

There are no absolutes here.

Oh yeah? Just watch Highlander II THEN tell me that with a straight face!

Pfft... aliens...

I don't believe in that stuff either but Capricorns rule 

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Crap, just realised Renegade'll come back with something about burgers and lasagne....

I actually just finished some lasagna for dinner~! Couldn't tell you whether it was beef, kangaroo, horse, goat or centaur lasagna though. With them greedy cows pricing themselves out of the market, it's no wonder you got all these migrants taking their jobs!

But, centaur or beef lasagna - it was still a semi-decent unbirthday dinner.

(Today is my unbirthday!)