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3101  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces! on: May 02, 2011, 01:48:40 PM
heheh, "they hate our freedoms"; i've not heard that one before.

It seems to me that in a lot of cases, it just boils down to "they hate..." Sad

Even sadder though, is that a lot of it boils down to "'we' hate..." Sad

But do "we" really?

If a child sees a spider, screams for help, and an adult comes in and "helps" by killing the spider. The child then responds by saying hooray, thanks for saving me from the spider.

Now did the child actually hate the spider? Or were they just afraid of it?

The two terms get used interchangably quite often. Most adults will tell you they hate spiders...When they really mean they're afraid of them.
3102  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Five Reasons Why People Hate Apple on: May 02, 2011, 01:37:50 PM
I understand you are married to MS-SQL

I am? Sounds like one of those bad night in Vegas movies ... When did I get married? I'm not adverse to MSSQL, but for something like this I'd generally go with MySQL (which may have been unclear earlier). Either way the object is to get (run) away (screaming) from Access (which the project is currently married to) unless using a dinky record set that would fit comfortably on a (Excel) spread sheet.

I've never dealt with Oracle, but anything resembling an automated (generic) transfer tends to make me nervous.
3103  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: should I ragequit? on: May 02, 2011, 11:54:37 AM
Many others have already put to far more eloquently than I tend to be. So...

Should I ragequit?

Actions taken in anger are seldom well thought out, Hence... I will simply vote no. As having a conscious is a good thing I'm told.
3104  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces! on: May 02, 2011, 11:42:45 AM
(BTW- I abhor the term collateral damage.  It's a euphemism used to cover up the fact that this damage takes its toll in lives.  If you're going to do the act, at least look it in the eye when you do so.)

Agreed! Enough with the Politically "Correct" attempts at watering down anything that might be perceived as difficult. Stand up and face what it really is in truth ... Or don't do it at all. We as a species would do well to get back to straighter talk and thicker hides. Then much of the foolishness would end.
3105  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Pirated Software and Viruses? Ahem... No. I don't want to help you... on: May 02, 2011, 07:50:59 AM
She only slept around when her husband was out of town.

If you can't be with the one you love honey love the one you're with.

(If nobody remembers that song...I'm going to look like an idIoT)
3106  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Five Reasons Why People Hate Apple on: May 02, 2011, 07:25:15 AM
If you are old, don't care to learn just want to use something and it work, apple is for you.

God, Grant me the serinity...

You must only meet one of the criteria, not all. Not saying apple is only for old people, but am saying old people should only use apple

EDIT: ESPECIALLY if you're an old person calling me for help fixing your internet

I was actually just trying to dissuade Renegade from saying what I was thinking, as we both tend to see red when the Apple, It just works thing comes up. Because it doesn't. Apple networking is dependent in its own abomination Bonjour, which I have seen break way too many networks with its shenanigan to be coincidence. It's a garbage protocol.

I'd rather try walking an old person through Linux troubleshooting, than do a hands-on network printer setup for a Mac. Because I know from the start that the first one will result in both of us laughing frequently, and the second one will (after much anguish) end badly.
3107  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Five Reasons Why People Hate Apple on: May 02, 2011, 07:05:50 AM
To quote Jack from LOST, "Are you insane?"

While debatable it's really not the central point...  

No no no. Not your sanity - the sanity of using Access... That must be very not fun.

Well, that was my second choice on how to take the comment. But I thought the first one was funnier, so I went with it... Wink ...But yes it's been about as much fun as being roasted alive.

It makes me wonder if there is any way to "trick" the system into thinking that it's using Access but actually have a different RDBMS there. Then it would be possible to swap it out.

Sure, it's (a web site) just a bunch of page scripts and an mdb file. The problem is it's a production system and there currently just isn't the time available to risk borking the whole thing if I happen to (miss a db trigger event, etc.) get something wrong.

Sure the SQL syntax is close enough that I could probably just recreate the db and update the connection string to target a MySQL db, and then import the data. But if anything went wrong ... I'd be married to the thing for a string of all nighters trying to stitch the data back together. Sure eventually it will have to be done ... But for here and now, it's (bandaid time) triage only.
3108  Other Software / Developer's Corner / Re: New Twist on Basic on: May 02, 2011, 06:48:43 AM
After just glancing at the OP sample code, I'm pretty sure I could do the same sample dialog in pure C with  less code ... *Shrug* ... So I'm lost on an advantage there.

With C, you can't use goto without being outlawed Wink

goto EEK!

hehehe ...Gotta give you that one!  cheesy
3109  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Pirated Software and Viruses? Ahem... No. I don't want to help you... on: May 02, 2011, 06:45:23 AM
It's one thing to use a crack for software that you have already licensed, but...
And another to use wholly pirated software, which isn't necessarily the end of the world...

but asking a programmer for help with pirated software? priceless smiley

(hehe) Yeah, that like flagging down a cop and asking where is the best place to by pot. Renegade should have given the guy the number for the local BSA, and told him to ask for "Tech Support".
3110  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Congratz to the US Military Forces! on: May 02, 2011, 06:38:50 AM
That's assuming they got the right guy - a quick burial at sea seems a bit fishy to me (sorry for he pun).

Agreed, however hoisting a body on a petard for a parade through town is rather frowned on these days - And an autopsy was hardly necessary - So there wasn't much need for the carcas going forward...


Also +1 with f0dder, cutting the head off this snake, will only result in more snakes.
3111  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: corrupt office 2003 file on: May 01, 2011, 02:37:05 PM
email is not involved at all.  the files are stored on our server.

Oops! ...I Assumed  embarassed
3112  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Five Reasons Why People Hate Apple on: May 01, 2011, 01:56:19 PM
To quote Jack from LOST, "Are you insane?"

While debatable it's really not the central point...  cheesy ...I'm just dealing with what I had (was given) to start with (Personally I much prefer the PHP/MySQL combo). It's a "Production System" with no latitude for downtime. So... A complete conversion was/is just not in the cards at this point. However I may try it later, time permitting. Hopefully before it takes its (Access + large record set = boom) inevitably complete shit.
3113  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Five Reasons Why People Hate Apple on: May 01, 2011, 01:27:35 PM
No, but my todo list is. Our IT department consists of only one monkey...Me.

The folks that use the report have some of the oldest machines, so it was assumed ... and never mentioned, until I got a request for some new features for the site. Ha! ...That went well.

50k???
5 years of records and counting.

Access???
Totally not my idea...

New features???
Yes, management is like that.

WTF???

Exactly... Welcome to my world.
3114  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Five Reasons Why People Hate Apple on: May 01, 2011, 12:59:17 PM
I got stuck the last few weeks working on one of our Intranet sites coded in ASP (e.g. VB), and it just makes me want to scream every time I have to deal with it.

ASP sucked. It's no wonder MS gave up on it almost a decade ago now~! smiley tongue

Actually, I left out the best part ... It's an ASP UI, with an Access db back-end. One of the reports that pulled from a table with 50,000 records in it, was parsing the results at the page level ... Which I assumed had much to do with its 3 minute page load time.

I got it down to about 4 seconds now (with a much (more precise) finer tuned query).

WTF? Why hasn't it been redone by now? Is it THAT big?

No, but my todo list is. Our IT department consists of only one monkey...Me.

The folks that use the report have some of the oldest machines, so it was assumed ... and never mentioned, until I got a request for some new features for the site. Ha! ...That went well.
3115  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Five Reasons Why People Hate Apple on: May 01, 2011, 12:53:53 PM
If you are old, don't care to learn just want to use something and it work, apple is for you.

God, Grant me the serinity...
3116  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Five Reasons Why People Hate Apple on: May 01, 2011, 12:48:46 PM
I got stuck the last few weeks working on one of our Intranet sites coded in ASP (e.g. VB), and it just makes me want to scream every time I have to deal with it.

ASP sucked. It's no wonder MS gave up on it almost a decade ago now~! smiley tongue

Actually, I left out the best part ... It's an ASP UI, with an Access db back-end. One of the reports that pulled from a table with 50,000 records in it, was parsing the results at the page level ... Which I assumed had much to do with its 3 minute page load time.

I got it down to about 4 seconds now (with a much (more precise) finer tuned query).
3117  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Five Reasons Why People Hate Apple on: May 01, 2011, 11:50:34 AM
They've not managed to make C# in any way useful for MS Office yet... Grrr... While C++ may be great in many aspects, it's still a beast.

Whereas for me, as long they don't support C++, or at least C++/CLI, on Windows Mobile I won't develop for it. C++ is just soooooooooo lovely to code in.

I'll 2nd that, I love working in C++!

I got stuck the last few weeks working on one of our Intranet sites coded in ASP (e.g. VB), and it just makes me want to scream every time I have to deal with it.

Either rigidly define the data types ala C++, or completely ignore them ala PHP...That's fine. ASP/VB have generally undefined data types loosely based on rules I swear they make up on-the-fly. It's a freakin' nightmare trying to get anything done quickly with that mess.
3118  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Misconfigured Servers from Tech Companies on: May 01, 2011, 11:37:18 AM
Can't say I've ever tied the two together, but I have run across the sizeless download annoyance a few times. I'll have to watch for it in the future.
3119  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Easiest laptop (brand) to take apart ? on: May 01, 2011, 11:25:55 AM
That's cool - I've just been wondering if you were dealing with a particularly difficult set of environmental conditions that made normal (a term I'm using here loosely for lack of a better one) methods ineffective.

As an example, I have a client that is a (large & small animal) vet. Some of their machines have come in for repair quite literally full of all manner of hair/fur/fuzz/I don't want to know... smiley ...I've recommended that they avoid laptops in their environment.
3120  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Five Reasons Why People Hate Apple on: May 01, 2011, 10:33:41 AM
No. At the moment Windows Mobile is clearly at the bottom.

Well 3 Cheers for the underdog!

(Sent From My Windows Mobile Phone)

 cheesy
3121  Other Software / Developer's Corner / Re: New Twist on Basic on: May 01, 2011, 10:28:00 AM
After just glancing at the OP sample code, I'm pretty sure I could do the same sample dialog in pure C with  less code ... *Shrug* ... So I'm lost on an advantage there.
3122  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: Easiest laptop (brand) to take apart ? on: May 01, 2011, 10:12:41 AM
I can't help but wonder how much of what are you having to clean out of these machines? I've generally always just blown (with canned air) through the (air outlet) cooling system backwards and never had a problem getting dust/lint/animal hair out of a machine...Without any disassembly.
3123  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: corrupt office 2003 file on: May 01, 2011, 10:05:55 AM
Is there any AV software (client or server side) involved?

Is the PP file sender using embeded or locally linked graphics for the file (I've seen this boo-boo happen before).

Are you sure the PP file is getting to the server/client intact? If it is an Outlook/Exchange environment, try sending a known good test file to an account that is not in cached mode, and see what happens.

Also if Exchange is involved, has an ofline defrag (with esutil) ever been run on the server?
3124  Main Area and Open Discussion / General Software Discussion / Re: Playing With UI Design... (Looking for comments) on: May 01, 2011, 09:41:25 AM
Having spent a good deal of time walking people through things. I've come to the conclusion that the reflexive clicking types just can't be helped ... Even if you add a blood curdling scream to the event.

For the rest, the graphic (and crystal clear button text) should do just fine to convey the importance of the next move.
3125  Main Area and Open Discussion / Living Room / Re: USA Deadly Tornadoes on: April 29, 2011, 11:26:05 AM

Yepper Gotta save that one to favorites ... When I get home that is.

I'm pretty sure that site would violate the company's AUP ... Which I haven't read ... Since I wrote it... *Shrug*
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