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Please read posts #9 and #10.

Thank you.

Edit:
added another link
https://stackoverflo...three-way-merge-tool

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I can feel your pain.

This also looks interesting, but unfortunately is not yet able to actually show/highlight the fuzzy text matches that it detects in the background:
https://www.tools4noobs.com/online_tools/string_similarity/

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Aaaarggghhhh, this is 2019 and BeyondCompare still can't wrap text to the width of the respective window  :down: :down: :down: :down: :down: :down: :down: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

This unfortunately makes BeyondCompare completely UNUSABLE for text analysis (other than for program code, possibly).

This is also valid similarly for ExamDiff Pro. While ExamDiff Pro can (sort of) wrap text, the output is not practical for text analysis.

Summing up my experience: while practically all off-line tools like the ones mentioned above might be well suitable for comparing program code versions, they are completely and utterly unusable for text analysis.

This is what the comparison output of the typical off-line program looks:
2019-02-10_130557.png

Below is what the comparison output of Similarity Texter looks, and this is what I'm after:
2019-02-10_131038.png

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Thanks, I see now that at least ExamDiff Pro says that it has some sort of fuzzy comparison.

In the meantime I found this, from the makers of Vroniplag. IMHO this tool blows everything else out of the water, at least when you're looking for text comparison with lots of moved blocks.

I will try ExamDiff Pro  and  BeyondCompare and report back.

Additionally, I am now looking for a tool that can find and highlight repeated blocks of text within a single file. So far, the only solution I found is Textanz:

8N28iVO[1].jpg

Textanz however only highlights repeated blocks in one single color which makes it very tedious to follow up when there are lots of (possibly nested) repetitions.

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Hi all,

I was just going to report that I tested some online and off-line (*.exe) diff tools again. Thereby, the installed tools, like the latest versions of WinMerge and Meld, proved to have no chance against the best online tools. Both WinMerge and Meld fail completely as soon as the texts become just a little dissimilar.

I checked like a dozen online comparison tools, and the best ones (by far) still seem to be Vroniplag (great multi-color highlighting of identical textblocks including moved block detection), and wikEd diff (highly configurable, including moved block detection). Vroniplag even lets you copy the results including all the color highlighting into Word, however only if the comparison is done with Internet Explorer. Both with Chrome and Firefox, this does not seem to work properly.

Copyleaks.com seems to be even more sophisticated since it at least tries to detect similarity also when there are small differences like for example OCR errors. Also, you can click on text passages and it will highlight the respective passage in the other text. However, it is a) terribly slow as compared to the other two mentioned above, b) has no multi-color coding for quick overview, c) breaks longer texts into multiple pages that you have to click through, and d) you can't quickly edit one or both of your texts and redo the comparison with the edited texts.

I am yet to discover a service or tool that uses some kind of fuzzy logic or artificial intelligence in order to spot and visibly highlight similarities in a "stepless" manner, for example by using some sort of heat map color highlighting of the similarities.

Cheers
David

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Coming back to this ten years later, and it is still not fixed.

If someone sends me a mail from Outlook and I copy and paste the mail text somewhere else, I usually get like four paragraph marks (one of them followed by a non-breaking space) between every single paragraph

Is that because even the guys at Project FixOutlook.org took a bribe with that silly giant poster that Microsoft sent them (instead of fixing Outlook) -- which apparently froze them with a foolish grin instead of moving on with kicking Microsoft's ass?

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Edit, JFTR:
I asked if they could make TB! start any editor of your choice, i.e., present the message you were working on as a file for your preferred text editor to work on.  That's the way many systems worked back in the Fidonet DOS days.
http://forums.mozill...a780573bee2#p2934663

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For completeness, lately I've been playing around with the online diff tools at wikEd and at Vroniplag -- and must say that they are both pretty amazing with regard to moved blocks detection. Moved blocks are even detected when they additionally have been edited in one or both copies of the text.


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OK thanks!

At the moment, I try BlackWidow. BlackWidow simply creates an Explorer-like view of the entire website, and after the scan is finished, you download (only) the parts you want.



Does HTTrack allow a similar approach?

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Hi all,

I got that same problem again.

This is the forum to be downloaded this time:
http://www.dasgelbeforum.net/forum.php?page=1041

The link above is actually the oldest/last page. So it would be sufficient to download those 1041 pages including all linked pages (only one level deep).

Any experiences which tool would be the simplest to do this?

Thanks for opinions!


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Thanks for the responses.

I have already tried lots of Differ tools, but none that I am aware of had a particularly robust moved block detection (when there are only so much little differences within otherwise identical blocks).

Therefore, still thankful for actual experiences regarding, expressly, moved block detection.

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Hi forum,

often I use text comparison tools, for example WinMerge, in order to compare two document versions, for example from different sources.

The problem is that the documents often originate from (different) OCR processes and are only slightly different mainly due to the OCR errors. Therefore, even if the contents of two original documents should be identical, WinMerge often does not recognize this and therefore marks the entire document (erroneously) as completely different.

Therefore my question is whether anyone knows of a text comparison tool that has a even more robust block similarity detection* than for example WinMerge has.

Thanks for hints
David.P
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*) Examples for similarity/moved block detection:
Meld:

(also not good with OCR'ed files)

XDiff:

(could not find a not commercial version for Windows)

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Hi forum and skwire,

thank you for the great GUI for Sigcheck!

I ran SigcheckGUI on all *.exe files on the hard drive, and with most of the files, I got a Virustotal result. However, for some files it would either not call Virustotal, or report "unknown" for the result, see below screenshot:



Is there anyting I can do to check those files as well on a batch run of SigcheckGUI?

Thanks again,
David

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N.A.N.Y. 2010 / Re: NANY 2010 Release: Anuran
« on: April 26, 2016, 03:18 AM »
Thank you so much skwire!

Apologies for not responding earlier -- for some reason, I was not notified of the thread updates.

Although now my income will decrease somewhat :huh: OTOH my clients hopefully will not complain anymore about excessive bills 8)

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N.A.N.Y. 2010 / Re: NANY 2010 Release: Anuran
« on: April 19, 2016, 07:32 AM »
skwire, are you there?

Sorry for ranting on and on, but the possibility to dismiss the Anuran popup without creating a log entry is so much needed in my view.

For example, I just came back from lunch, and of course there is the Anuran popup sitting and showing that (sophisticated) text about what I was working on just before lunch -- but there being no way not to create a log entry (without loosing the last text entry's wording, that is)  :(

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N.A.N.Y. 2010 / Re: NANY 2010 Release: Anuran
« on: April 15, 2016, 07:30 AM »
aagghh...

Anuran even creates a new line in the log if the popup window is dismissed by pressing "Esc"!

Please, this needs to be fixed!

Cheers
David
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PS: also, the time in the titlebar and status bar seems to be wrong. It should read 14:21 (or 2:21 pm), but not 04:21

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N.A.N.Y. 2010 / Re: NANY 2010 Release: Anuran
« on: April 13, 2016, 08:59 AM »
Hi forum and skwire,

first of all, thanks for this wonderful piece of software that has made detailed billing a snap for me for many years.

However, what I just realized (don't tell anybody because my clients will sue me with compensation claims) is that Anuran actually creates a perfectly normal entry in the logfile also when the popup window is simply dismissed (by clicking on the "X" botton)!

It must be untold times that I have dismissed the popup via the "X" button because I had not been working on a client project in the respective elapsed time period but was doing something else (for example, procrastinate).

Now I realize that every time the popup was dismissed, my client still was billed in the end because Anuran would create a log file entry also when dismissing!

Therefore, I'd strongly vote for a little code change that simply makes Anuran do nothing when dismissing the popup via the "X" button.

Thanks for listening,

Cheers
David.P


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Exselo Desktop looks like it is Outlook-Based on all screenshots. So is this actually a DESKTOP search app at all?


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For years, I'm basically very happy with Archivarius.

It is doing hundreds of thousands of files both locally and on a network server without a hiccup. Preferably, the index should be located on a local SSD, this makes search about 10 times more responsive.

What's more, the support usually is fast and helpful.

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> Download it from their web page and try for yourself

Download it from their web page and try for yourself:
-mojope (Participant, Posts: 1) (August 21, 2015, 04:48 AM)

You sure that it is "their", not "your" web page?

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Thanks. Had a look at it. Hated the website because it:

a) only shows flashy Apple hardware
b) does not even scroll properly because all of the bling-bling, almost crashed my browser
c) does not have any information about how the product actually works
d) forces you to sign up

To me, this service or whatever it is, seems to be targeted towards the typical mooncalfs in Controlling. Could be otherwise, but for the moment, I'll stick with Anuran.

It's of course not meant personally.

Cheers
David

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Great, thanks! I like that query assistant dialog, didn't know that it existed.

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Hi,

I was looking for an "OR"-operator in my copy of Archivarius 3k, but couldn't find one that works. Is "OR" search not supported in A3k?

23
Yeah but the AquaGlue feature costs a few bucks if you want to use it permantently.

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OK I think I got it now. AquaGlue only seems to work after windows have been arranged by AquaSnap (not manually or by using WIN+Arrow combinations).

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