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General Software Discussion / Re: ... [ARRRRRRRGH!]

« on: December 27, 2007, 12:23 PM »

First result on Google.

-Lashiec (December 25, 2007, 02:56 PM)

Never said there wasn't a MS source, rather it was lanux128 who said that he (or she) "couldn't find [one]".  Second, like the Sun article, I doubt it's one that many non-programmers have read.

I think it's a great idea....

-Lashiec (December 25, 2007, 02:56 PM)

And that's fine and dandy by me.  I don't and on my system, I would like to remove them.  What other people do with their system is up to them.

I like the ellipses, just like I like the Alt+Letter underlines. They both serve a purpose, and I can't understand people who find them un-aesthetic.

-f0dder (December 25, 2007, 03:44 PM)

I like the Alt+underline too, since I prefer to use keyboard shortcuts over the mouse and therefore find it useful sometimes to be reminded of what they are.  At the same time, I can understand there's different strokes for different folks (hey, maybe that would go well in a theme for a TV show...).  Just because I like something doesn't mean everyone else has to like it, and just because I don't like something doesn't mean other people can't like it.

If you want to remove the ellipsis, you'll end up modifying at least a bunch of .exe resources, and for some apps you'd have to touch regular data and even code as well, since menu items can be constructed dynamically.

-f0dder (December 25, 2007, 03:44 PM)

Actually, I was mainly interested in just removing them from the Windows shell components (such as the start menu and the context menu) since I use it daily and thus notice them there most often.  I hadn't considered that maybe some of the ellipses might actually be part of an application since those that I have been able to remove I did so through editing the registry.

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General Software Discussion / Re: ... [ARRRRRRRGH!]

« on: December 25, 2007, 02:51 PM »

If the ellipses weren't on the "shut down..." button, people would think that that button would shut the computer down right away and not press it, and then they wouldn't be able to find the "restart" button, which is inside that menu. (this refers to someone who doesn't know the system, of course)

-jgpaiva (December 20, 2007, 10:41 AM)

While this makes some sense, one would think that anyone who would know the system well enough to know what the ellipses were for would have already figured out that there was a "Restart" option on the "Shutdown..." dialog and how to use it.  On top of that, it seems that such information isn't common, public knowledge (I certainly didn't know about it until now) considering that lanux128 couldn't find a MS source for the rationale and had to use one from Sun that I doubt many non-programmers have read.  So unless I'm misunderstanding something, they added a "feature" (for lack of a better word) to help people who didn't know enough about the system, but then refrained from telling those people who the feature was supposed to help that it was there.  I hope this doesn't sound like I'm faulting your explanation (which I thought you did quite well, btw), rather I don't fully comprehend the logic behind the rationale for adding such a poorly documented "feature".  I suppose it's one of those "it seemed to be a good idea at the time" and "well, that's the way we've always done it, so why change?" things.

Anyway, getting back to the original intention of this post, if there's anyone who knows, or is willing to figure out, how to remove them, I would be grateful if he or she would share such knowledge with me.  I'm fully willing to take full responsibility for any consequences that arise from my use of such information.

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Best Text Editor / How could y'all not mention Notepad Minus?

« on: December 19, 2007, 07:59 PM »

   1. At only 12,228 bytes, I doubt there's a smaller text editor out there.
   2. Not only is it small, it also blows the others away in terms of start up speed.
   3. Absitively, posolutely not bloatware!
   4. Doesn't require installation.

Spread the word: http://www.softpedia.../Notepad-Minus.shtml

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General Software Discussion / Re: ... [ARRRRRRRGH!]

« on: December 19, 2007, 06:06 PM »

I am curious to know why you wish to remove them.

-tinjaw (December 19, 2007, 01:41 PM)

Aesthetics, mainly.  Sort of like removing the "My" from the various "My [Documents, Photos, Pictures, etc.]" subfolders under the assorted user profiles in Documents and Settings.  I simply think the menu items look better without them.

I assume you understand they do serve a purpose and are not just randomly spread here and there.

-tinjaw (December 19, 2007, 01:41 PM)

If there's a purpose to them, I'm completely missing it.  Note that I only want to remove the ellipses (and have done so with several menu items such as changing "Search..." in the start menu to "Search" without noticing any ill effects to my system) not the entire menu item itself. 

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General Software Discussion / ... [ARRRRRRRGH!]

« on: December 19, 2007, 01:40 PM »

I didn't want to hijack the "My Stupid Windows Question" thread at https://www.donation...f1&topic=11354.0, but I have a similar pet peeve with the ellipses ("...") Microsoft puts after a bunch of menu items (e.g., "Run..." on the start menu).  I've been able to (reg)edit most of them out, but "Run...", "Shut Down...", Log off [current user]..." (on the start menu) and "Search..." on Windows Explorer context menu remain elusive.  Not that it's all that big of an annoyance, but still, if someone knew how to get rid of these (at least to me) pests, it would be much appreciated.   If not, well, life goes on.

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Living Room / Re: Top 10 Signs Recursion May Be a Problem In Your Life

« on: December 19, 2007, 12:37 PM »

I think I've read this before....

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Living Room / Re: Top 10 Signs Recursion May Be a Problem In Your Life

« on: December 19, 2007, 12:36 PM »

I think I've read this before....