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Author Topic: How to open a 700MB picture?  (Read 6676 times)
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« on: November 15, 2007, 02:36:28 AM »

This was an image taken by the Hubble telescope.

Link to Actual Image (WARNING Large Download ~ 706MB) - http://www.spacetelescope...es/original/heic0710a.tif

Link to Reduced Image (~ 6MB) - http://www.spacetelescope...licationjpg/heic0710a.jpg

I am curious to know if Windows Picture and Fax viewer can actually open this. How long would it take? Which program opens large image files quickly?
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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2007, 06:41:30 AM »

Oh boy, that's huge! :O

The largest I've seen was... I think it was a satellite image of earth, pretty huge jpeg image (70 megs or so?).

It isn't necessarily too bad opening a 700meg TIF file, since they're usually uncompressed (which makes it easier to read only parts of it). I'm going to grab it and see how ACDsee32 handles it - bless the server for being able to deliver >2mbyte/sec to me smiley

EDIT: took 5˝ minute to grab the file, and after waiting 5 minutes for acdsee32 2.4 to open it, I killed the process... it had one of my cores maxed out for the entire 5 minutes, but only used ~5 megabytes of memory, so something tells me it's simply not able to deal with TIF files that huge.

Paint Shop Pro 8 gives me this message:
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Not enough memory to complete this operation; close one or more documents or applications and try again.  If this does not correct the problem, you may need to adjust your memory settings or work on a smaller document.

Perhaps because I run my system without paging file, and only have 2 gigs of memory smiley
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2007, 06:50:47 AM »

I couldnt resist that myself smiley

  • exif-pro: not enough memory warning
  • Windows fax etc Viewer: opened "Preview" couldnt show it full size
  • Photoshop5.5 opened it but at reduced resolution - with no error warning or anything huh
  • gimp2.2 opened it (took a while though) I could zoom in & move around it *very* slowly
    gimp using 1.1GB memory, not that much CPU but too sloooow.

also I *think* it's a compressed tif -
Photoshop was saying almost 1GB size when opened (that was maybe with reduced resolution?),
Gimp was saying "2.5GB Background" not familiar with gimp so not sure if that meant file size..
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2007, 08:09:11 AM »

Heh, good thing I didn't try to open that file on my machine. At 512 MB RAM, Irfanview or Picasa would not be able to do much. And my other computer has 256MB RAM with a 500 Mhz processor and Debian, don't think it can handle it either.
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2007, 08:14:17 AM »

you're not missing that much -
just more dots on the bigger one smiley
I even think the smaller one looks better - has more contrast...
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2007, 01:12:39 PM »

Once you are done with this huge file, you can start with the one below mentioned by Ashley at CyberNet News:

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Damen  - a painting of a Chicago scene first unveiled at Photoshop World in March of 2006.  Using Adobe Illustrator to create some of the basic shapes, digital photo artist Bert Monroy using Photoshop to create the rest. The flattened file weights 1.7 Gigabytes and took over 2,000 hours to create.

Now that's HUGE. And using Photoshop... god damn, he used Google's servers or something ohmy

I'll keep the "small" one though, it makes a beautiful wallpaper. I'm downloading the other one to see what happens (almost 2 hours to finish).
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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2007, 02:20:16 PM »

I'll keep the "small" one though, it makes a beautiful wallpaper.
Eheh... What a coincidence, that was the first thing i did when i opened that smaller one Wink
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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2007, 02:52:32 PM »

Hah! Me too
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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2007, 03:06:04 PM »

DONE! XnView opened it in mere seconds, and I have it loaded right now. Of course, memory usage is high, almost 1 GB for the program alone, but no problems viewing the picture. I can zoom the picture around, but it requires some time.

Check out the resolution: 22620x15200, and created on Photoshop CS2 with a Macintosh. I suppose it's one of those high end workstations Apple was selling, with 8 cores and 8 GB of RAM.
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« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2007, 05:39:18 PM »

Check out the resolution: 22620x15200, and created on Photoshop CS2 with a Macintosh. I suppose it's one of those high end workstations Apple was selling, with 8 cores and 8 GB of RAM.

Neat, so XnView wins so far. And it even tells you what kind of machine they used to make the image? Interesting. Maybe I should give that program another look. I still use Windows Picture and Fax viewer and have IrfanView as a backup.
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2007, 05:18:58 AM »

Now that's HUGE. And using Photoshop... god damn, he used Google's servers or something ohmy

I'll keep the "small" one though, it makes a beautiful wallpaper. I'm downloading the other one to see what happens (almost 2 hours to finish).
Where do you download the image though? :-s
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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2007, 05:32:50 AM »

DONE! XnView opened it in mere seconds, and I have it loaded right now. Of course, memory usage is high, almost 1 GB for the program alone, but no problems viewing the picture. I can zoom the picture around, but it requires some time.

Check out the resolution: 22620x15200, and created on Photoshop CS2 with a Macintosh. I suppose it's one of those high end workstations Apple was selling, with 8 cores and 8 GB of RAM.

ehh, getting confused now - which pic is this then Lashiec ? tellme
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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2007, 08:19:36 AM »

And it even tells you what kind of machine they used to make the image? Interesting.

Yup, it's embedded in the EXIF information of the image. Most programs will show you this, including Windows in the second page in "Properties" of the file, and click "Advanced view" (or whatever is called that in English Windows). BTW, Windows' Picture Viewer can open the photo as well, but it takes around 30 seconds, because it does some resizing to accommodate the picture to my monitor resolution.

Oh, guys, I drove you nuts Grin. The picture I downloaded and opened is the one that icekin mentioned. You can't get the other one though, but you can take a closer look to it
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2007, 09:43:47 AM »

Oh, guys, I drove you nuts Grin. The picture I downloaded and opened is the one that icekin mentioned. You can't get the other one though, but you can take a closer look to it
You done did  Angry tongue cheesy

"• It took eleven months (close to 2,000 hours) to create."

was he unemployed I wonder or did someone pay for that ?!
Jeez I'd go mad..

But the details are beautiful
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2007, 10:08:58 AM »

Talk about large images... "The Last Supper", by Michelangeleo is 16 GB pixels
= 172.181 x 93.611 pixels (easy now, this is not a direct link...): http://www.haltadefinizio...com/en/cenacolo/index.asp


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The Last Supper

Painted by: Leonardo da Vinci

Where? Milan, refectory of the Santa Maria delle Grazie convent

When? From 1494 to 1498 Size: 460 x 880 cm (181 x 346 in)

Technique: Tempera with oils on white lead and calcium carbonate

The Image:

Size: 16.118.035.591 pixel (172181 x 93611)

Color depth: 16 bit per channel

Shots: May, 7 - 2007

Number of shots: 1677

Computing: CPU: 2 Two Quad Core AMD Opteron™ processors
16 Gigabyte RAM memory, 2 Terabyte hard disk space

Photographic Equipment: Camera: "Nikon D2Xs"

Lens: "AF-S Nikkor 600mm f/4D IF-ED II"

Real time acquisition Software: Nikon Camera Control Pro

Postprocessing and real time verification software: Nikon Capture NX

Pointing Device: Motorized

Panoramic Head: CLAUSS Rodeon VR

Notes: Great care has been adopted in the Last Supper illumination during shooting. Lighting system has been tested and validated in the Photometric Laboratory of the Istituto Centrale per il Restauro not to damage the painting

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« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2007, 10:58:52 AM »

wow the detail there
you can zoom in here
http://www.haltadefinizio....com/en/cenacolo/look.asp


this "only" at 42%



you may have to stand back a bit
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