Author Topic: NANY 2012 Release: Ethervane Echo (Read 568,132 times)

tranglos · « **Reply #100 on:** January 02, 2012, 02:35 AM »

Quote from: rgdot on December 31, 2011, 04:42 PM

I wrote about it
http://www.rgdot.com/bl/2011/12/31/ethervane-echo-multi-featured-clipboard-manager/

Nice review, rgdot, thank you so much!

PhilB66 · « **Reply #101 on:** January 02, 2012, 12:33 PM »

From the Ethervane Spellchecker dictionaries readme.txt:

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If you change the default installation folder, Echo will not be able to find the dictionaries, and the spell checkoing feature will be disabled.

May I recommend a spellchecker...

cranioscopical · « **Reply #102 on:** January 02, 2012, 02:52 PM »

Quote from: PhilB66 on January 02, 2012, 12:33 PM

May I recommend a spellchecker...

Magic!

(BTW, whatever happened to spelling?)

Ath · « **Reply #103 on:** January 02, 2012, 03:25 PM »

Quote from: cranioscopical on January 02, 2012, 02:52 PM

(BTW, whatever happened to spelling?)

Aaron died a few years ago... $:-\$

tranglos · « **Reply #104 on:** January 02, 2012, 04:04 PM »

Quote from: PhilB66 on January 02, 2012, 12:33 PM

From the Ethervane Spellchecker dictionaries readme.txt:

Fixed, thanks!

cranioscopical · « **Reply #105 on:** January 02, 2012, 06:26 PM »

Quote from: Ath on January 02, 2012, 03:25 PM

Aaron died a few years ago...

You just had to produce her

panzer · « **Reply #106 on:** January 02, 2012, 07:00 PM »

http://www.instantfundas.com/2012/01/ethervane-echo-portable-clipboard.html

cranioscopical · « **Reply #107 on:** January 02, 2012, 07:36 PM »

Quote from: panzer on January 02, 2012, 07:00 PM

http://www.instantfundas.com/2012/01/ethervane-echo-portable-clipboard.html

Nice, tranglos

hangdawg · « **Reply #108 on:** January 06, 2012, 05:21 AM »

hi this is a great clipboard manager ived tried plenty of them before this but is there a setting i need to change because if you right click tray icon and click clear history you can no longer click on icon to bring it back up only way is to click restore or exit the program and restart it i do the later as its nice to be able to just click the icon and is there a option to make the close button to minimize it kinda like kee pass does thanks

tranglos · « **Reply #109 on:** January 06, 2012, 12:37 PM »

Quote from: hangdawg on January 06, 2012, 05:21 AM

hi this is a great clipboard manager ived tried plenty of them before this

Thanks, and welcome to DC!

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but is there a setting i need to change because if you right click tray icon and click clear history you can no longer click on icon to bring it back up only way is to click restore or exit the program and restart it

There is no "Clear History" command in the icon menu. There is "Clear Clipboard" - is this what's causing the problem you're describing?

What happens when you click the icon afterwards? Nothing at all?

(Remember you can always bring up Echo by pressing ehe activation hotkey, there should be no need to restart. But if I can find a problem with the tray icon, I'll fix it.)

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i do the later as its nice to be able to just click the icon and is there a option to make the close button to minimize it kinda like kee pass does thanks

I am not a big fan of that. I think the close icon should close and the minimize icon should minimize, if you know what I mean :) It's irritating when you try to exit the app and it only minimizes instead.

That said, I don't think it would make a difference in Echo, because Echo will automatically minimize when you switch to another application (or just click anywhere outside it, or press Escape). So instead of clicking the Close icon, it's much easier to just do nothing at all, and Echo will minimize by itself.

kyrathaba · « **Reply #110 on:** January 06, 2012, 12:41 PM »

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hi this is a great clipboard manager ived tried plenty of them before this but is there a setting i need to change because if you right click tray icon and click clear history you can no longer click on icon to bring it back up only way is to click restore or exit the program and restart it i do the later as its nice to be able to just click the icon and is there a option to make the close button to minimize it kinda like kee pass does thanks

@hangdawg: Welcome to the forum, hangdawg! Ethervane Echo is a great program!

hangdawg · « **Reply #111 on:** January 06, 2012, 01:30 PM »

yes its clear clipboard after clicking it the icon no longer brings it up ive got to close the program and restart it again thanks

tranglos · « **Reply #112 on:** January 06, 2012, 02:52 PM »

Quote from: hangdawg on January 06, 2012, 01:30 PM

yes its clear clipboard after clicking it the icon no longer brings it up ive got to close the program and restart it again thanks

- What version of Windows, please? 32 or 64 bit?

- When the problem happens, can you still bring up Echo using the activation hotkey (Win+Insert by default) and work with Echo normally? This is important, since it would tell me where in Echo the problem may be occurring.

Thanks!

hangdawg · « **Reply #113 on:** January 06, 2012, 06:36 PM »

hi tranglos im using windows 7 64 bit sp1 yes the hot keys bring it up after clicking clear clipboard but the icon stops bringing it up

after clicking clear clipboard have to exit program and restart it i like being able to just click the icon its a nice feature

ive tried at-least 25 clipboard managers in the last week your is by far the best

oh 1 more thing clicking clear clipboard doesn't clear anything

kunkel321 · « **Reply #114 on:** January 06, 2012, 07:51 PM »

Wow this is impressive! Thanks for making it!

PS: It plays nice with Dropbox... Extra points for that!

hangdawg · « **Reply #115 on:** January 07, 2012, 05:03 AM »

hi tranglos everything works perfectly now the only thing i changed is i was coping and pasting from firefox 10 beta 32 bit i switched to firefox nightly 12 32 bit and everything is working perfectly now on nightly 12 could that somehow be responsible for Echo acting like it was

tranglos · « **Reply #116 on:** January 07, 2012, 01:19 PM »

Quote from: hangdawg on January 07, 2012, 05:03 AM

hi tranglos everything works perfectly now the only thing i changed is i was coping and pasting from firefox 10 beta 32 bit i switched to firefox nightly 12 32 bit and everything is working perfectly now on nightly 12 could that somehow be responsible for Echo acting like it was

That's great news, thanks! I was worried there, because I don't have a 64-bit version of Windows handy to test on. But if that one function were causing problems, than Echo should not work at all, since it does much more extensive work with clipboard than just clearing it

hangdawg · « **Reply #117 on:** January 07, 2012, 03:44 PM »

hi trangglos yes it works better but 2 things i have icon to show all the time but after logging off and back on the icon is hidden

and also after restarting or logging back in echo screen pops up for a second sometimes in the last position it was in before logging off sometimes like its heading toward the taskbar that with your portable version and also the installed version

Ath · « **Reply #118 on:** January 07, 2012, 04:04 PM »

@hangdawg, the icon is automagically hidden on Windows Vista and 7 depending on it's use (click) and 'icon' changes, unless you change that setting yourself. As it's a user-driven feature, that's not normally controlled by an application.

hangdawg · « **Reply #119 on:** January 07, 2012, 04:31 PM »

@ath thats just the thing i set it to always show but it reverts to hidden after reboot or logging off or in

Ath · « **Reply #120 on:** January 07, 2012, 04:39 PM »

Quote from: hangdawg on January 07, 2012, 04:31 PM

but it reverts to hidden after reboot or logging off or in

That's probably something with your Windows setup, I suspect. $:-\$

I've set it to always show all icons (so I can't verify, but it does get a bit crowded at times, even though I've set the taskbar to double-height).

hangdawg · « **Reply #121 on:** January 07, 2012, 07:08 PM »

@ ath its the only icon doing that my windows image is pretty prestine i use clonezilla to roll back and software changes keeps the registry clean that way especially testing software

rashford · « **Reply #122 on:** January 10, 2012, 02:33 PM »

Great app - it's filled a long-standing need I have for a clipboard extender that doesn't screw up my development environment. I'm running it under Win7, both 32- & 64-bit. I think I've found a problem under 64-bit: the "Short" tab doesn't display any clips, no matter how short. As an experiment, I changed the filter to use "nrGreaterThanOrEqual" instead of "nrLessThanOrEqual", and then all clips were shown, even the very short ones! I haven't used it a lot under 64-bit, so there may be other funnies I haven't come across

I would like to second Tomos' request for an option to minimize to the tray when I hit the Close box - I know I can just click outside the window or hit the Minimize button, but I just can't get out of the habit of hitting Close when I've finished looking at the clips!

tranglos · « **Reply #123 on:** January 10, 2012, 06:59 PM »

Quote from: rashford on January 10, 2012, 02:33 PM

I think I've found a problem under 64-bit: the "Short" tab doesn't display any clips, no matter how short. As an experiment, I changed the filter to use "nrGreaterThanOrEqual" instead of "nrLessThanOrEqual", and then all clips were shown, even the very short ones!

This shouldn't be a 32/64 bit issue, or else there would likely be trouble with all filters. Could you post a screenshot of the Filters tab of the view?

A few things to check:

- is the length filter the only one defined for the view? If it is not, what is the setting of the AND/OR option (match all filters or match any filter)? Filters can be combined, including filters of the same type, but if there was more than one length filter, results might be weird, depending on how the filters are configured.

- is the count value set properly? (just checking ;-)

- is the Reverse option set? (It should not be)

- If you use LessThan (or GreaterThan) instead of the "OrEqual" conditions, does that fix the problem?

I've just configured a new view from scratch, and it correctly shows clips of 10 or fewer characters. Yours should look similar to this:

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I would like to second Tomos' request for an option to minimize to the tray when I hit the Close box - I know I can just click outside the window or hit the Minimize button, but I just can't get out of the habit of hitting Close when I've finished looking at the clips!

Added to the wishlist

Sascha · « **Reply #124 on:** January 11, 2012, 03:37 PM »

Hey,

really great application - imho better then ditto

(i am using v1.0.4b103 on win xp sp3)

bugs

when trying to add cf_dib or other formats to the store-in-echo-list, the application crashes when clicking the ok-button (Error [EEchoInternalError]: TClpFormatRegistry: Clipboard format "cf_dib" (type: System) already exists in the registry)
there is no confirmation dialog on deleting items here

feature requests

close to tray on pressing the X
possibility to configure the directory for saving the database
possibility to configure the directory for saving the application-settings (ini)
possibility to change shortcuts like F2
do not autopaste items on pressing enter - only copy them to the clipboard (like ctrl+shift+c)
always show date and time for last saved items instead of e.g. "8 minutes ago"
do not block capturing when editing an item internally or externally. sometimes it is useful to capture a part of an existing clip and save it to a new clip

that's it for now
it would be nice if you keep these issues in mind

thanks in advance!