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Re: Cannot delete single clips
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2013, 09:08 PM »
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but how can that be when the problem is there too when I use a completely fresh, new, empty database

oh yeah.. that part makes no sense.

ok if you exit and delete the settings ini file, and then start, is the problem fixed?

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Re: Cannot delete single clips
« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2013, 12:08 AM »
Ahhhhh.... I found the problem!

The gremlins were in the PresetView folder!

When I deleted the PresetView folder from C:\Users\Jesper\Documents\DonationCoder\Clipboard Help+Spell and replaced it with a fresh PresetView folder from the well functioning portable version, everything worked normally again! The clips became black and not grey, and they were deletable again!

If you are curious, I attach the bad version of PresetViews. Only the files Last.preset.dock and Last.preset.grid differs in binary content from their well-functioning counterparts.

Thank you so much for helping me find the problem by asking all those good questions and make me test all the different combinations!

Maybe the problem started because I have had to brutally kill Clipboard Help+Spell so many times when it conflicted with LibreOffice and made both programs freeze (another problem that I have kind of repressed in despair). During those cold, brutal killings, the PresetView files might have been badly injured...

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Re: Cannot delete single clips
« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2013, 12:18 AM »
wow what a discovery.. and how strange!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i'm going to have to study those preset views, as i haven't the faintest clues how they could cause the problem.

thank you for not giving up and becoming angry with frustration, as i would have done in your shoes.  your discovery may help others.

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Re: Cannot delete single clips
« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2013, 06:16 AM »
That's interesting.
I use PresetViews quite a lot and have experimented with them.
I just used Everything and discovered that there are unused PresetViews in the folder
C:\Users\{UserID}\Documents\DonationCoder\Clipboard Help+Spell\PresetViews
- which contains the files: (showing Created  Date, then Modified Date)
Code: (generic)
ColumnCustomizer.preset     	  32	2011-01-11 01:46	2005-08-11 20:52
ColumnCustomizer.preset.dock	 892	2011-01-11 01:46	2005-08-11 20:52
ColumnCustomizer.preset.grid	2911	2011-01-11 01:46	2005-08-11 20:52
Last.preset                 	  32	2011-01-11 01:46	2013-01-25 00:08
Last.preset.dock            	 915	2011-01-11 01:46	2013-01-25 00:08
Last.preset.grid            	5086	2011-01-11 01:46	2013-01-25 00:08
NewClips.preset             	  32	2011-01-11 01:46	2005-08-11 20:52
NewClips.preset.dock        	 892	2011-01-11 01:46	2005-08-11 20:52
NewClips.preset.grid        	2913	2011-01-11 01:46	2005-08-11 20:52
NewClips.preset.groupnodes  	  15	2011-01-11 01:46	2005-08-11 20:52
Standard.preset             	  32	2011-01-11 01:46	2005-08-11 20:50
Standard.preset.dock        	 892	2011-01-11 01:46	2005-08-11 20:50
Standard.preset.grid        	2908	2011-01-11 01:46	2005-08-11 20:50

The ones I use are not user-dependent and are in the folder
C:\UTIL\Windows utilities\FindAndRunRobot\Plugins\Clipboard Help+Spell\PresetViews
- which contains the files: (showing Created  Date, then Modified Date)
Code: (generic)
.InfoSelect style.preset.dock         	 915	2012-01-24 15:06	2012-01-24 15:06
.InfoSelect style.preset.grid         	4677	2012-01-24 15:06	2012-01-24 15:06
.InfoSelect style.preset.groupnodes   	  46	2012-01-24 15:06	2012-01-24 15:06
CHS Original example.preset           	  32	2012-02-03 10:12	2012-02-03 10:12
CHS Original example.preset.dock      	 915	2012-02-03 10:12	2012-02-03 10:12
CHS Original example.preset.grid      	4677	2012-02-03 10:12	2012-02-03 10:12
CHS Original example.preset.groupnodes	  38	2012-02-03 10:12	2012-02-03 10:12
ColumnCustomizer.preset               	  32	2005-08-11 20:52	2012-01-24 15:07
ColumnCustomizer.preset.dock          	 915	2005-08-11 20:52	2012-01-24 15:07
ColumnCustomizer.preset.grid          	4677	2005-08-11 20:52	2012-01-24 15:07
ColumnCustomizer.preset.groupnodes    	  46	2012-01-24 15:07	2012-01-24 15:07
IB 3-pane hide.preset                 	  32	2012-01-31 20:22	2012-01-31 20:22
IB 3-pane hide.preset.dock            	 766	2012-01-31 20:22	2012-01-31 20:22
IB 3-pane hide.preset.grid            	4692	2012-01-31 20:22	2012-01-31 20:22
IB 3-pane hide.preset.groupnodes      	  37	2012-01-31 20:22	2012-01-31 20:22
IB 3-pane.preset                      	  32	2012-01-26 03:18	2012-01-26 14:51
IB 3-pane.preset.dock                 	 762	2012-01-26 03:18	2012-01-26 14:51
IB 3-pane.preset.grid                 	4692	2012-01-26 03:18	2012-01-26 14:51
IB 3-pane.preset.groupnodes           	  37	2012-01-26 03:18	2012-01-26 14:51
IB 3-panel.preset.dock                	 762	2012-01-26 03:23	2012-01-26 03:23
IB 3-panel.preset.grid                	4691	2012-01-26 03:23	2012-01-26 03:23
IB 3-panel.preset.groupnodes          	  45	2012-01-26 03:23	2012-01-26 03:23
IB01.preset.dock                      	 915	2011-08-25 15:09	2011-08-25 15:09
IB01.preset.grid                      	4509	2011-08-25 15:09	2011-08-25 15:09
IB01.preset.groupnodes                	  53	2011-08-25 15:09	2011-08-25 15:09
IBall.preset.dock                     	 915	2011-08-29 18:41	2011-11-20 12:56
IBall.preset.grid                     	4685	2011-08-29 18:41	2011-11-20 12:56
IBall.preset.groupnodes               	  29	2011-11-20 12:53	2011-11-20 12:56
IBimages.preset                       	  32	2011-08-25 15:09	2012-01-31 10:27
IBimages.preset.dock                  	 915	2011-08-29 18:42	2012-01-31 10:27
IBimages.preset.grid                  	4680	2011-08-29 18:42	2012-01-31 10:27
IBimages.preset.groupnodes            	  46	2012-01-31 10:27	2012-01-31 10:27
IBold.preset                          	  32	2011-11-20 12:50	2011-11-20 12:50
IBold.preset.dock                     	 915	2011-11-20 12:50	2011-11-20 12:50
IBold.preset.grid                     	4685	2011-11-20 12:50	2011-11-20 12:50
IBold.preset.groupnodes               	  18	2011-11-20 12:50	2011-11-20 12:50
InfoSelect style.preset               	  32	2012-01-24 15:06	2012-01-24 15:07
InfoSelect style.preset.dock          	 915	2012-01-24 15:07	2012-01-24 15:07
InfoSelect style.preset.grid          	4677	2012-01-24 15:07	2012-01-24 15:07
InfoSelect style.preset.groupnodes    	  46	2012-01-24 15:07	2012-01-24 15:07
Last.preset                           	  32	2010-12-16 23:06	2013-10-14 18:47
Last.preset.dock                      	 915	2010-12-16 23:06	2013-10-14 18:47
Last.preset.grid                      	4849	2010-12-16 23:06	2013-10-14 18:47
Last.reset.grid                       	4860	2013-05-24 13:48	2012-10-26 18:04
NewClips.preset                       	  32	2005-08-11 20:52	2011-11-20 12:52
NewClips.preset.dock                  	 915	2005-08-11 20:52	2011-11-20 12:52
NewClips.preset.grid                  	4685	2005-08-11 20:52	2011-11-20 12:52
NewClips.preset.groupnodes            	  18	2005-08-11 20:52	2011-11-20 12:52
OB deatil 3-pane hide.preset          	  32	2012-05-08 18:32	2012-05-08 18:32
OB deatil 3-pane hide.preset.dock     	 766	2012-05-08 18:32	2012-05-08 18:32
OB deatil 3-pane hide.preset.grid     	4692	2012-05-08 18:32	2012-05-08 18:32
OldClips.preset                       	  32	2011-11-20 12:52	2011-11-20 12:52
OldClips.preset.dock                  	 915	2011-11-20 12:52	2011-11-20 12:52
OldClips.preset.grid                  	4685	2011-11-20 12:52	2011-11-20 12:52
OldClips.preset.groupnodes            	  18	2011-11-20 12:52	2011-11-20 12:52
Standard.preset                       	  32	2005-08-11 20:50	2011-11-20 16:17
Standard.preset.dock                  	 915	2005-08-11 20:50	2011-11-20 16:17
Standard.preset.grid                  	4677	2005-08-11 20:50	2011-11-20 16:17
Standard.preset.groupnodes            	  45	2011-11-20 12:56	2011-11-20 16:17

I know that when you save a PresetView, it saves certain settings corresponding to that view, but I have not figured out how you can save a PresetView which blocks (greys out) the option to delete clips.
However, if Jesper Hertel's PresetViews have somehow been set to do this, then I wonder whether this could be an undocumented feature in CHS that we don't know about or have forgotten, or maybe the functionality to effect it has been removed in later versions of CHS.

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Re: Cannot delete single clips
« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2013, 02:12 PM »
Quote from: mouser on October 14, 2013, 12:18 AM
thank you for not giving up and becoming angry with frustration, as i would have done in your shoes.  your discovery may help others.
Oh, I would never be angry with such a wonderful program as Clipboard Help+Spell. :-) I use it all the time and it is extremely helpful to me! I only become sad when it is ill :(. I am so happy it recovered now! :)


Quote from: IainB on October 14, 2013, 06:16 AM
However, if Jesper Hertel's PresetViews have somehow been set to do this, then I wonder whether this could be an undocumented feature in CHS
Yes, either that, or the program gets confused by some obscure error in the presetviews data due to a possible corruption and something fails that is not supposed to fail.
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