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Re: Ice Bucket Challenge...You all got nominated!
« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2014, 02:11 AM »
Chris Cantwell & Josie the Outlaw chime in on the subject...

FAIR WARNING: It involves Chris Cantwell (NSFW), and so it WILL offend some people. ;)

White T-Shirt Ice Bucket Challenge!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhAzOvvFJqU

(I'm pretty certain that the video will make a lot of people see red. Consider it NSFL.)
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Re: Ice Bucket Challenge...You all got nominated!
« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2014, 02:22 AM »
Really don't know what to say to the final link...

Honestly though, wanna fork those over to The Basement?...Doesn't really seem appropriate seeing as I was simply trying to spread a little bit of fun...not have it spammed with political/anti-government stuff.........I don't mind if those are or are not your views, but they don't fit on this thread.

Wondering why I bothered posting this now...

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Re: Ice Bucket Challenge...You all got nominated!
« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2014, 05:05 PM »
Wondering why I bothered posting this now...

    Me too! :P   

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Re: Ice Bucket Challenge...You all got nominated!
« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2014, 05:35 PM »
The challenge just got meta...





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Re: Ice Bucket Challenge...You all got nominated!
« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2014, 12:01 AM »
Wondering why I bothered posting this now...

Most likely because you felt it was worth sharing ... And many of us liked it.

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Re: Ice Bucket Challenge...You all got nominated!
« Reply #30 on: August 27, 2014, 02:33 AM »
Wondering why I bothered posting this now...

Most likely because you felt it was worth sharing ... And many of us liked it.

^+1

At the end of the day, does it really matter how something worthwhile got done so long as it did?

People like me should simply be ignored - or told to "lighten up" when they're being crabby. :)

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Re: Ice Bucket Challenge...You all got nominated!
« Reply #32 on: August 27, 2014, 04:40 AM »
The best IBC video I have seen so far:

http://vimeo.com/104465784

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Re: Ice Bucket Challenge...You all got nominated!
« Reply #33 on: August 28, 2014, 05:23 PM »
Even among the most noble army of knights in armor, a troll will eventually make its appearance.

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Re: Ice Bucket Challenge...You all got nominated!
« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2014, 02:55 PM »
For a while, I was worried that I may have been unduly harsh towards the ALS Foundation with my previous comments. So I decided to do a little more research to see if an apology was due.

But now that I've looked at their IRS Form-990 filing and examined the information contained therein a bit more closely, I'm less convinced they're the best non-profit to be contributing to for ALS research.

(Those of you with a financial or accounting background might want to do a little analysis and read between the lines in a few places on that 990. Check out the salary and compensation section (p. 8 & 9); and the note on p.29 regarding the perpetual endowment whose earned income makes up part of the 28% going to research. Interesting huh?)

Their officially published numbers also paint a fairly dismal picture, with less than half of all funds making it to research (28%) or patient services (19%).

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And while the public and professional education wedge seems to indicate a healthy 32% going to...um...education, I'm not sure how to interpret that since the government gives registered charities fairly broad leeway as to what to categorize as 'fundraising' or 'marketing' as opposed to 'educational' communications and publications. This is something which has been a source of controversy (in the US) over the years since much of what gets called 'educational' is often little more than a thinly disguised fundraising effort.

So...bottom line?

I think ALS is a serious health issue that needs research and deserves our dollars.

But...is the ALS Foundation the best way to contribute to the effort? Maybe. But I'd like to see a little more of what they get actually going to fix the problem. My rule of thumb for charitable giving is a distribution breakdown where 75% or better of all monies received goes directly to the cause, and administration expenses are held at or below 6%.

But that's me. ;)
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Re: Ice Bucket Challenge...You all got nominated!
« Reply #35 on: August 29, 2014, 03:38 PM »
^ I will give a local example - because I don't know if this exists in too many other places. Here in Ontario, Canada there are "lotteries" where people buy tickets for as much $100 where the money goes to similar foundations, hospitals and the like. They offer hugely expensive prizes with very good odds too (The tickets are limited to numbers like 100000). They advertise heavily too. So of that 10 million a lot is clearly marketing, not even counting the administration costs and pay which takes 3 or 4 clicks to find.

The point is this is one way to help, there are other ways but then you make a decision to seek them out, go the extra step that doesn't necessarily involve front page news or easy to remember 1800 number. The end goal is still the end goal, to put it kind of bluntly ... you make the decision to perhaps excessively reward people on the way to the goal

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Re: Ice Bucket Challenge...You all got nominated!
« Reply #36 on: August 29, 2014, 11:24 PM »
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Re: Ice Bucket Challenge...You all got nominated!
« Reply #37 on: August 30, 2014, 01:04 AM »
In fairness to the ALS Foundation, they do have a provision (according to their FAQ) where you can direct that 100% of your donation goes towards research with nothing taken out for administrative or other purposes.

That makes me much happier.
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Re: Ice Bucket Challenge...You all got nominated!
« Reply #38 on: August 30, 2014, 03:40 AM »
UPDATE: the ALS Foundation has since withdrawn its trademark application.

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Re: Ice Bucket Challenge...You all got nominated!
« Reply #39 on: August 30, 2014, 09:49 AM »
@Mouser - I don't think anybody was being negative. Just a little critical of some people feeling the need to always have drama whenever they're asked to do something. Whatever happened to giving to a worthy cause just because giving was the right thing to do?

I'm gonna shift the thread a bit and focus on this. Does "Charity" need "Entertainment"?

40 years ago you used to just give to X orgs. Now we need a "payback"!?

I'll grant we pay more when we get an "undercover show", but is that really where charity went to!?

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Re: Ice Bucket Challenge...You all got nominated!
« Reply #40 on: August 30, 2014, 01:31 PM »
Related:

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https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/08/the-masters-pools/

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Re: Ice Bucket Challenge...You all got nominated!
« Reply #41 on: August 30, 2014, 07:29 PM »
@App - interesting magazine this Jacobin. Refreshingly leftist for a change. But sometimes marred by that same old wilful blindsidedness we remember from the counterculture rhetoric of the 60-70s. (I find the complete absence of any provision for readers to comment back both telling and oddly familiar. Dialogue was never the extreme Left's strong point. They always preferred the soapbox or lecture rather than a discussion or debate conducted in good-faith.)

But still...talk about a blast from the past! Thx for finding and sharing that. :) :Thmbsup:
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Re: Ice Bucket Challenge...You all got nominated!
« Reply #42 on: August 31, 2014, 12:05 AM »
(I find the complete absence of any provision for readers to comment back both telling and oddly familiar. Dialogue was never the extreme Left's strong point. They always preferred the soapbox or lecture rather than a discussion or debate conducted in good-faith.)

The discussions are on their Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/jacobinmag/posts/931983790161656

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Re: Ice Bucket Challenge...You all got nominated!
« Reply #43 on: August 31, 2014, 12:15 AM »
(I find the complete absence of any provision for readers to comment back both telling and oddly familiar. Dialogue was never the extreme Left's strong point. They always preferred the soapbox or lecture rather than a discussion or debate conducted in good-faith.)

Why are you trying to make me post a rebuttal when I don't want to?  :P

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Re: Ice Bucket Challenge...You all got nominated!
« Reply #44 on: August 31, 2014, 04:01 AM »
(I find the complete absence of any provision for readers to comment back both telling and oddly familiar. Dialogue was never the extreme Left's strong point. They always preferred the soapbox or lecture rather than a discussion or debate conducted in good-faith.)

The discussions are on their Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/jacobinmag/posts/931983790161656

Better than nothing I suppose. But IMHO a FB membership is a pretty high price to pay just to comment on something. :-\ ;)

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Re: Ice Bucket Challenge...You all got nominated!
« Reply #45 on: August 31, 2014, 02:37 PM »
(I find the complete absence of any provision for readers to comment back both telling and oddly familiar. Dialogue was never the extreme Left's strong point. They always preferred the soapbox or lecture rather than a discussion or debate conducted in good-faith.)

The discussions are on their Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/jacobinmag/posts/931983790161656

Better than nothing I suppose. But IMHO a FB membership is a pretty high price to pay just to comment on something. :-\ ;)

A lot of sites are doing that now.  One of the reasons I stopped visiting Huffington Post.

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Re: Ice Bucket Challenge...You all got nominated!
« Reply #46 on: August 31, 2014, 07:29 PM »

Nobody knows/remembers who are the inventors of Ice Bucket:


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Re: Ice Bucket Challenge...You all got nominated!
« Reply #47 on: September 01, 2014, 07:45 AM »
Good one stephen.  :up:

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