Author Topic: Be Careful What You Download - Or Go To Jail... (Read 37,106 times)

Renegade · « **Reply #25 on:** December 09, 2012, 08:59 AM »

Quote from: 40hz on December 09, 2012, 05:20 AM

Quote from: Renegade on December 09, 2012, 04:53 AM
Quote from: 4wd on December 09, 2012, 03:40 AM
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Hehehe! I have that same attraction there.

I'm still looking for the Necronomicon - giant, evil Gods...who wouldn't want to see that?

You just lost 6 sanity points for even mentioning that book~!

I'm holding out for an unexpurgated edition of Friedrich Wilhelm Von Juntz's Unaussprechlichen Kulten myself. It supposedly has the correct version of the Dho formula. The one on the Necronomicon has errors. I know because I kept saying the Dho formula last night, and I think I saw the inner city at the two magnetic poles. I shall go to those poles when the earth is cleared off, if I can't break through with the Dho-Hna formula when I commit it.

Ooops! Looks like you're already in debt for sanity points~!

Quote from: 4wd on December 09, 2012, 05:26 AM

Quote from: Renegade on December 09, 2012, 04:53 AM
You just lost 6 sanity points for even mentioning that book~!

I don't know how, I had them all repossessed when I got married.....

Hahahaha~!

Ever notice that regaining sanity points is kind of like climbing a rope in gym class to touch the ceiling? But every time you get half-way up or so, someone pulls you right back down and you never seem to get your sanity point?

Tinman57 · « **Reply #26 on:** December 10, 2012, 01:14 AM »

Quote from: 40hz on December 09, 2012, 02:22 AM

Quote from: Tinman57 on December 09, 2012, 02:15 AM
Ah yes, I remember now. Anyone ordering/reading this book would be put on the FBI watch-list. This happened sometime in the 90's I do believe.

Supposedly. Word was somebody claimed to have seen a list obtained from FBI files released under FOIA that listed people who were ordering the book - mostly from Loompanics Unlimited. Several people also claimed to have been targeted by the FBI for nothing other than ordering books from the same source.

I don't know if it was ever actually proven. It may well be an urban legend. Besides, the FBI had files on everybody back then. Often for the stupidest of reasons. Probably still do since "keep busy" is the watchword of most federal agencies who are looking to justify and increase their operating budgets.

Yep, it was quite a controversy, and still should be as far as I'm concerned. But, like most bad things in the U.S., they just quietly go away as the sheeple don't seem to care....

Tinman57 · « **Reply #27 on:** December 10, 2012, 01:25 AM »

Quote from: 4wd on December 09, 2012, 03:40 AM

Necronomicon

Now what do you want with a grimoire? Got some "Old Ones" to call upon?

4wd · « **Reply #28 on:** December 10, 2012, 11:23 AM »

Quote from: Tinman57 on December 10, 2012, 01:25 AM

Quote from: 4wd on December 09, 2012, 03:40 AM
Necronomicon
Now what do you want with a grimoire? Got some "Old Ones" to call upon?

The 21st is approaching, I'd really like to be the one that starts it all

Carol Haynes · « **Reply #29 on:** December 10, 2012, 11:44 AM »

OK - if this is the way we are going let's ban science from schools and universities and lock up all current chemistry graduates as they probably know how to make a bomb and therefore could potentially aid terrorists.

If the Telegraph statement is accurate an appeal should be pretty automatic - in British law 'intent' has to be present to allow a judge to convict. Given that the judge stated there was no intent the prison sentence (in fact the conviction) should be thrown out easily.

Personally I think the judge should be locked up because he done more to encourage terrorism in that statement and sentence than the plaintiff!

40hz · « **Reply #30 on:** December 10, 2012, 01:36 PM »

Quote from: Tinman57 on December 10, 2012, 01:14 AM

Quote from: 40hz on December 09, 2012, 02:22 AM
Quote from: Tinman57 on December 09, 2012, 02:15 AM
Ah yes, I remember now. Anyone ordering/reading this book would be put on the FBI watch-list. This happened sometime in the 90's I do believe.

Supposedly. Word was somebody claimed to have seen a list obtained from FBI files released under FOIA that listed people who were ordering the book - mostly from Loompanics Unlimited. Several people also claimed to have been targeted by the FBI for nothing other than ordering books from the same source.

I don't know if it was ever actually proven. It may well be an urban legend. Besides, the FBI had files on everybody back then. Often for the stupidest of reasons. Probably still do since "keep busy" is the watchword of most federal agencies who are looking to justify and increase their operating budgets.

Yep, it was quite a controversy, and still should be as far as I'm concerned. But, like most bad things in the U.S., they just quietly go away as the sheeple don't seem to care....

It's too late anyway. More than enough time has passed that any relevent docs and data have been destroyed/deleted as part of a "routine" file cleanup, simply gone missing, or have been lost due to an "archive misfiling."

It happens all the time when you deal with law enforcement's record keepers. $:-\$

tomos · « **Reply #31 on:** December 10, 2012, 09:40 PM »

Quote from: Carol Haynes

Personally I think the judge should be locked up because he done more to encourage terrorism in that statement and sentence than the plaintiff!

good point

Tinman57 · « **Reply #32 on:** December 11, 2012, 12:33 AM »

Quote from: Carol Haynes on December 10, 2012, 11:44 AM

OK - if this is the way we are going let's ban science from schools and universities and lock up all current chemistry graduates as they probably know how to make a bomb and therefore could potentially aid terrorists.

If the Telegraph statement is accurate an appeal should be pretty automatic - in British law 'intent' has to be present to allow a judge to convict. Given that the judge stated there was no intent the prison sentence (in fact the conviction) should be thrown out easily.

Personally I think the judge should be locked up because he done more to encourage terrorism in that statement and sentence than the plaintiff!

Yeah, here in "Merica" there's supposed to be the "intent" clause too. But somehow our legal system has managed to tread all over that as well.

Renegade · « **Reply #33 on:** December 11, 2012, 01:18 AM »

Quote from: Tinman57 on December 11, 2012, 12:33 AM

Yeah, here in "Merica" there's supposed to be the "intent" clause too. But somehow our legal system has managed to tread all over that as well.

Yep. Never let the facts get in the way of a conviction to fund the slave-labour force for the private prisons... No more boxcars full of prisoners headed for western Poland. Nope. Slow & steady wins the race. You boil the frog slowly, and it doesn't notice.

KynloStephen66515 · « **Reply #34 on:** December 11, 2012, 01:53 AM »

Carol Haynes · « **Reply #35 on:** December 11, 2012, 02:47 PM »

Quote from: Stephen66515 on December 11, 2012, 01:53 AM

Hey who sent you my holiday video?

KynloStephen66515 · « **Reply #36 on:** December 11, 2012, 07:21 PM »

Quote from: Carol Haynes on December 11, 2012, 02:47 PM

Quote from: Stephen66515 on December 11, 2012, 01:53 AM

Hey who sent you my holiday video?

Ha!

Renegade · « **Reply #37 on:** December 12, 2012, 12:34 AM »

Birds & boobs aside...

Appears information is also illegal in Australia:

http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/latest/15602434/melbourne-man-on-terror-charges-gets-bail/

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A Melbourne man accused of collecting al-Qaeda magazines that describe how to engage in violent jihad has been granted bail to support his heavily-pregnant wife.

Adnan Karabegovic, 24, is charged with four counts of collecting documents connected with the preparation of a terrorist act, following the discovery of the magazines at his home in the southeast Melbourne suburb of Officer during September police raids.

Dirty nasty information! What we need is more illiteracy!

Kind of good to know that thought crimes are also punished in Australia. I feel so much safer knowing that thinking is illegal here too, and not just in other police states.

Renegade · « **Reply #38 on:** December 12, 2012, 01:00 AM »

And posting links is illegal in the US:

http://rt.com/usa/news/brown-stratfor-credit-barrett-751/

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Anonymous-tied hacktivist faces prison for sharing link

Etc. etc.

Carol Haynes · « **Reply #39 on:** December 12, 2012, 09:19 AM »

Quote from: Renegade on December 12, 2012, 01:00 AM

And posting links is illegal in the US:

http://rt.com/usa/news/brown-stratfor-credit-barrett-751/

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Anonymous-tied hacktivist faces prison for sharing link

Etc. etc.

Says a lot about how much time is being sent monitoring chat room conversations.

They must be really worried by some conversations on Steam chatrooms!

tomos · « **Reply #40 on:** December 12, 2012, 09:33 AM »

it was stupid of whoever did that Stratfor job to steal the credit card info - they should have just deleted it. It was an ideal route for writing them off as criminals, and this rubbish too (the 'federal charges for sharing a hyperlink').

Renegade · « **Reply #41 on:** December 12, 2012, 03:08 PM »

For those that believe in free speech, here's a link (and a few more):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspire_(magazine)

http://inshallahshaheed.blogspot.com/ Samir Khan's blog, 2004-2005
http://azelin.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/aqap-inspire-magazine-volume-1-uncorrupted.pdf
http://azelin.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/inspire-magazine-2.pdf
http://azelin.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/inspire-magazine-3.pdf
http://azelin.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/inspire-magazine-4.pdf
http://azelin.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/inspire-magazine-5.pdf
http://azelin.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/inspire-magazine-6.pdf
http://azelin.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/inspire-magazine-7.pdf
http://azelin.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/inspire-magazine-8.pdf
http://azelin.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/inspire-magazine-9.pdf
http://Al-Malahem.com/epic/inspire/10/Al-Malahem Inspire-10.pdf

Click a link, and you're officially a terrorist. And could be thrown in jail for it.

The defenestration of sanity.

Sigh...

robinsiebler · « **Reply #42 on:** December 13, 2012, 07:42 PM »

Quote from: Renegade on December 08, 2012, 11:16 AM

Incidentally, the top murder weapon is???

I think more people are probably killed by cars.

robinsiebler · « **Reply #43 on:** December 13, 2012, 07:45 PM »

Quote from: Renegade on December 09, 2012, 04:53 AM

Quote from: 4wd on December 09, 2012, 03:40 AM
Quote from: Renegade on December 09, 2012, 02:40 AM
Hehehe! I have that same attraction there.

I'm still looking for the Necronomicon - giant, evil Gods...who wouldn't want to see that?

You just lost 6 sanity points for even mentioning that book~!

I once played a CoC session where we were all on Gilligan's Island. I played Ginger. About 40 minutes in, Mrs. Howell lost her last sanity point and killed Giligan, the Skipper, Mr. Howell and Mary Ann. The professor took her out. :p

Tinman57 · « **Reply #44 on:** December 14, 2012, 02:30 AM »

Quote from: robinsiebler on December 13, 2012, 07:42 PM

Quote from: Renegade on December 08, 2012, 11:16 AM

Incidentally, the top murder weapon is???

I think more people are probably killed by cars.

Yes, and we must be diligent in getting all motor vehicles outlawed, except for the military and law enforcement of course....

J-Mac · « **Reply #45 on:** December 14, 2012, 03:58 AM »

Actually everything I see says firearms are the number one murder weapon. Where did you get the baseball bat stat from, Ren?

Thanks!

Jim

Renegade · « **Reply #46 on:** December 14, 2012, 04:46 AM »

Quote from: J-Mac on December 14, 2012, 03:58 AM

Actually everything I see says firearms are the number one murder weapon. Where did you get the baseball bat stat from, Ren?

I don't remember.

I was just doing random reading, and came across it. It was just some article about the most common murder weapons. Not even sure how I ended up there.

4wd · « **Reply #47 on:** December 27, 2012, 06:33 AM »

Quote from: Renegade on December 14, 2012, 04:46 AM

Quote from: J-Mac on December 14, 2012, 03:58 AM
Actually everything I see says firearms are the number one murder weapon. Where did you get the baseball bat stat from, Ren?

I don't remember. I was just doing random reading, and came across it. It was just some article about the most common murder weapons. Not even sure how I ended up there.

Baseball bats kill people

Renegade · « **Reply #48 on:** December 27, 2012, 07:20 AM »

http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/data/table_20.html

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homicide/tables/weaponstab.cfm

Left hand. Right hand. Huh?

BTW - Check Vermont and North Dakota in the first link (also Hawaii). They're doing something right. Then check California... Yikes...

robinsiebler · « **Reply #49 on:** December 27, 2012, 07:37 PM »

lol...also check the population of those states. 'nuff said.