Author Topic: "Hands Holding" mask/frame combo... (Read 61,922 times)

kunkel321 · « **on:** February 14, 2012, 02:41 AM »

Here we go:
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mouser · « **Reply #1 on:** February 14, 2012, 02:47 AM »

ha!
pretty nice.

hell if people are going to start using this frame/mask feature i just might start making it easier to use, like not having to apply the mask and frame as separate steps..

kunkel321 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 14, 2012, 02:50 AM »

Thanks

I noticed your RaggedBR2.png and RaggedBR2.png.mask... Just couldn't figure out how to use them...

EDIT: Obviously, for the hands thing, you have to account for part of the screenshot getting cut off the ends. Also, if the dimensions aren't close, the hands get stretched/squished. Lastly, they could stand to be cleaned up, so they look more accurate... I'll do that later some time.

mouser · « **Reply #3 on:** February 14, 2012, 03:28 AM »

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you have to account for part of the screenshot getting cut off the ends.

yeah, on my todo list is a fix for that. wouldn't be that hard.

mouser · « **Reply #4 on:** February 14, 2012, 03:29 AM »

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I noticed your RaggedBR2.png and RaggedBR2.png.mask... Just couldn't figure out how to use them...

ah yes, so i think if you just named your frame like: "HandsFrame.png"
and then named your mask: "HandsFrame.png.mask"

and put them both in Frames directory, they should get applied both at the same time.

cranioscopical · « **Reply #5 on:** February 14, 2012, 03:43 PM »

Quote from: mouser on February 14, 2012, 02:47 AM

if people are going to start using this frame/mask feature i just might start making it easier to use

Good idea

kunkel321 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 14, 2012, 03:49 PM »

Quote from: mouser on February 14, 2012, 03:29 AM

ah yes, so i think if you just named your frame like: "HandsFrame.png"
and then named your mask: "HandsFrame.png.mask"
and put them both in Frames directory, they should get applied both at the same time.

I tried but couldn't get it to work. Will try again later. I think I have a funky installation, because I have the portable version in Dropbox and am running it from two different PCs.

cranioscopical · « **Reply #7 on:** February 14, 2012, 05:00 PM »

Ooops. Sorry, move along...

Ath · « **Reply #8 on:** February 14, 2012, 05:56 PM »

Quote from: kunkel321 on February 14, 2012, 03:49 PM

Quote from: mouser on February 14, 2012, 03:29 AM
ah yes, so i think if you just named your frame like: "HandsFrame.png"
and then named your mask: "HandsFrame.png.mask"
and put them both in Frames directory, they should get applied both at the same time.
I tried but couldn't get it to work. Will try again later. ...

Here the mask originally got saved as .mask.jpg. After I renamed it to .mask, as per mouser instructions, it worked like a charm

Kunkel321, thanks for this nice mask/frame combo

kunkel321 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 14, 2012, 08:32 PM »

Quote from: mouser on February 14, 2012, 03:29 AM

ah yes, so i think if you just named your frame like: "HandsFrame.png"
and then named your mask: "HandsFrame.png.mask"

and put them both in Frames directory, they should get applied both at the same time.

Okay, so I tried and tried, and I'm pretty sure they don't work like this.
For transparency to be applied, the image has to be a .jpg, and it has to be in the Masks folder.
Using the HandsFrame example, they show up as separate files frames and don't get (and can't be) applied at the same time. Right now am working on Win 7. Tried on Vista too though. Maybe if have a pref options that needs to be set(??) IDK.

mouser · « **Reply #10 on:** February 14, 2012, 08:35 PM »

Hmm.. Let me check into the code and report.

kunkel321 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 14, 2012, 08:37 PM »

Nope nope nope... I got it to work!

kunkel321 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 14, 2012, 08:40 PM »

Sorry about that. The idea never comes to me until I click "Post"

The key is to save HandsFrame.png as a regular png for the fram, but then save the mask portion as HandsFrame.jpg, then change it's file type (not just rename it) into HandsFrame.png.mask...
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kunkel321 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 14, 2012, 09:07 PM »

Here's a challenge for you...
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cranioscopical · « **Reply #14 on:** February 14, 2012, 10:54 PM »

Quote from: kunkel321 on February 14, 2012, 08:40 PM

The key is to save HandsFrame.png as a regular png for the fram, but then save the mask portion as HandsFrame.jpg, then change it's file type (not just rename it) into HandsFrame.png.mask...

I played with that earlier but had to drop it for a while.
If I do as you say, I get an access violation. On dismissing the notification of that, the frame is applied but it is partially transparent; some of what is beneath the fingers is visible.

cranioscopical · « **Reply #15 on:** February 14, 2012, 11:07 PM »

Poking at it some more, I discovered that I cannot apply any mask without causing an access violation.
Anyone else have that problem?
(W7-64 Pro)

Ath · « **Reply #16 on:** February 14, 2012, 11:16 PM »

I tried this handsholding frame/mask, and I can get SSC to AV by not saving the image after applying the frame+mask combined, then deleting the image, and trying to close the frame toolbar.
But further, it seems to work mostly as intended. W7 x64 too.

kunkel321 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 14, 2012, 11:22 PM »

Here, I'll try to post the handsholding.png and handsholding.png.mask.jpg in a zip file. [attach]

mouser · « **Reply #18 on:** February 14, 2012, 11:30 PM »

There is a transparency setting for frames, push that to max.

cranioscopical · « **Reply #19 on:** February 15, 2012, 03:42 AM »

Quote from: kunkel321 on February 14, 2012, 11:22 PM

Also remember to turn the Opacity all the way up...

Quote from: mouser

There is a transparency setting for frames, push that to max.

Duh

Thanks to both of you!
kunkel321, I used your files. When I went back to check, my own files were okay with the opacity at max.
mouser, no more access violations, I guess that problem sprang from some other, transient thing.

Quick and dirty proof attached...

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artifact · « **Reply #20 on:** April 04, 2013, 04:33 PM »

Hi Everyone, I just tried this mask/frame combo (handsholding.zip) and found that I couldn't get it to work in the MyFrames directory (doubleclicked to no avail and rescanned directories and shutdown program and restarted--I'm on a new Windows 8 laptop) so I moved the files into Screenshot Captor's Frame directory and it worked fine. OK, so that gets me to my questions: Do masks require frames or can they be used alone? Why would the hands not work alone as a frame?

mouser · « **Reply #21 on:** April 12, 2013, 04:53 PM »

hi artifact, sorry for the delay in replying!

In v4 i changed the clipart directories and REMOVED the idea of standalone masks.

So kunkels instructions won't work the way he originally posted -- which was to apply the mask and then apply the frame as two separate steps.

However, i have made a new download:
http://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Mouser/screenshotcaptor/downloads/addons/KunkelHands.zip

That zip contains two files:
KunkelHands.png
KunkelHands.png.mask

Just follow the read me instructions in that zip which tell you to copy those files to the Frames directory.

Then when you apply the frame png the mask will be automatically applied, as desired.

All use of frames that make use of masks should be done this way from now on, as a paired set with the mask having same name as frame but with .mask extension (doesn't matter the file format of the mask -- jpg is best i think).

kunkel321 · « **Reply #22 on:** April 14, 2013, 04:51 PM »

Thanks Mouser!
Sorry for not replying sooner.... I haven't tinkered with frames since many versions ago, and just haven't had time to experiment...
Mouser's new set up does seem to work.

Looks like the mask needs to be shaved a bit on the top/left. I'll see if I can find the original images and clean things up. Also, I never really did like the shadows I made.

kunkel321 · « **Reply #23 on:** April 14, 2013, 04:57 PM »

Also fyi they are actually not "my" hands... They belong to google images.

The offer presented here
http://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=30020.msg278930#msg278930
still stands.
RE Hand model photographer volunteers....

EDIT:
Looks like the file formats and naming are the same... I think the only difference is that Mouser made it so they don't have to be put in different sub-directories... Here is the "Holding Circle" one from the other thread...

cmpm · « **Reply #24 on:** April 14, 2013, 07:23 PM »

maybe an alternative would be a wicked looking set
with long red fingernails, or even black?