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s.newave

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Re: Html View Mode in FARR (Find and Run Robot)
« Reply #25 on: June 02, 2008, 03:53 PM »
Quote from: macs on June 02, 2008, 01:53 PM
Quote from: mouser on June 01, 2008, 07:19 PM
i may have to make a little mini toolbar for the htmlview mode with options like "open in browser", refresh, etc.  and i guess an address bar too.

I'm not sure abot a mini-toolbar and address bar.

Why not just make it an option.

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Re: Html View Mode in FARR (Find and Run Robot)
« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2008, 03:56 PM »
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I'm not sure abot a mini-toolbar and address bar.

i think the mini-toolbar and the address bar are really important,

having a 1920x1200 screen, my FARR window is more than big enough to quickly google things (without any scrapping), use simple local webtools
single-page wiki (http://www.tiddlywiki.com/http://www.tiddlywiki.com/) and many other things...

it's not meant to be a replacement browser, but an address bar is no gadget
and basic possibility like refreshing the page (F5 should work), go back, go forward, stop would be nice

in anycase maybe mouser can add an option to hide this mini-bar ?

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Re: Html View Mode in FARR (Find and Run Robot)
« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2008, 05:01 PM »
making it an option seems like the right thing to do.

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Re: Html View Mode in FARR (Find and Run Robot)
« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2008, 06:07 PM »
;D Not very support this

mshtml.dll is quite HUGE memory taking, laaaaaaaaag and security hole for scripting zones

Purely personal opinion ;D

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Re: Html View Mode in FARR (Find and Run Robot)
« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2008, 04:19 AM »
electronixtar: do you think there is a way how to use mozilla gecko instead?
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Re: Html View Mode in FARR (Find and Run Robot)
« Reply #30 on: June 03, 2008, 01:13 PM »
AFAIK XULRunner is able to help you embedding Mozilla Gecko.
For example the project RSSOwl can make use of it.

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Re: Html View Mode in FARR (Find and Run Robot)
« Reply #31 on: June 03, 2008, 04:31 PM »
Yes but XULRunner is 20MB! not possible to bundle with FARR I guess. But still there is a possibility to embed xulrunner into IE and that way it could be embeded to FARR. (only for those willing to use mozilla)

But I think that XUL definitely rocks! Those of you having Firefox try examples on this page:
http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2006/12/xule-what-if/
it is unbelievable what you can do with it. It would be perfect for FARR purposes! Pitty it is not supported by IE. Or at least if there was any easy plugin for IE to support XUL...
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Re: Html View Mode in FARR (Find and Run Robot)
« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2008, 02:00 AM »
Quote from: czechboy on June 03, 2008, 04:19 AM
electronixtar: do you think there is a way how to use mozilla gecko instead?
It's even slower~~ mshtml.dll is preloaded in Windows, but loading loading HTML is slow compared to GDI styled text & image

webkit is slowest~~~  ;D GTalk Labs Edtion use Webkit as html render engine, pretty ugly

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Re: Html View Mode in FARR (Find and Run Robot)
« Reply #33 on: June 04, 2008, 02:01 AM »
Quote from: czechboy on June 03, 2008, 04:31 PM
Yes but XULRunner is 20MB! not possible to bundle with FARR I guess. But still there is a possibility to embed xulrunner into IE and that way it could be embeded to FARR. (only for those willing to use mozilla)

But I think that XUL definitely rocks! Those of you having Firefox try examples on this page:
http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2006/12/xule-what-if/
it is unbelievable what you can do with it. It would be perfect for FARR purposes! Pitty it is not supported by IE. Or at least if there was any easy plugin for IE to support XUL...

IMHO since Windows 95 Active Desktop could embedd webpages on desktop

what an 'invention' from mozilla!  ;D

IE does not support  SVG cauze IE has VML support, which comes from 'Art Text' in MS Office. Also IE8 seemed to support 'canvas' tag

« Last Edit: June 04, 2008, 02:35 AM by electronixtar »

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Re: Html View Mode in FARR (Find and Run Robot)
« Reply #34 on: July 02, 2008, 09:03 PM »
First thing that came to mind when I saw html mode was prettyer output for plugins like timer, but this is quite unusable because html mode steals focus from the text box. Could this be bypassed somehow so the output can be dynamically changed as the user types in something?
It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious.

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Re: Html View Mode in FARR (Find and Run Robot)
« Reply #35 on: July 02, 2008, 09:05 PM »
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but this is quite unusable because html mode steals focus from the text box. Could this be bypassed somehow so the output can be dynamically changed as the user types in something?

is being fixed as we speak.

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Re: Html View Mode in FARR (Find and Run Robot)
« Reply #36 on: July 02, 2008, 09:12 PM »
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Quote from: mouser on July 02, 2008, 09:05 PM
is be bypassed somehow so the output can be dynamically changed as the user types in something?

is being fixed as we speak.

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Re: Html View Mode in FARR (Find and Run Robot)
« Reply #37 on: July 04, 2008, 03:49 PM »
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First thing that came to mind when I saw html mode was prettyer output for plugins like timer, but this is quite unusable because html mode steals focus from the text box. Could this be bypassed somehow so the output can be dynamically changed as the user types in something?

Should be fixed in latest beta uploaded here:
http://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=10505.0

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Re: Html View Mode in FARR (Find and Run Robot)
« Reply #38 on: July 04, 2008, 04:22 PM »
A few notes about the web browser stealing focus:

I spent a lot of time and trial and error figuring out a way to prevent the web browser from taking focus automatically from the edit box.  It turns out that the web browser activex automatically grabs focus and there is no easy way to stop it from doing so.  So basically what I do is keep track if you were in the browser control and clicked on a link vs. if you initiated a display from the edit box, and try to preserve that after the document finishes loading.  It remains to be seen how good a job i did.

There are also some new commands described in the help file that can be put in alias results or used from a plugin to force the focus to the web browser should you so desire after a page loads.  Remember you can now specify multiple commands in one alias by separating them with ;;;

So for example here is an alia result that will go to a website and force the focus into the web browser:
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mgo $$1 | htmlviewurl $$1 ;;; setfocus mainpanel

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Re: Html View Mode in FARR (Find and Run Robot)
« Reply #39 on: July 05, 2008, 09:57 AM »
Quote from: mouser on July 04, 2008, 03:49 PM
Should be fixed in latest beta uploaded here:
http://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=10505.0

:Thmbsup:
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