Honestly I would say it's not worth the effort in this particular case. Hopefully those of us who followed or participated in these threads can walk away having learned one lesson; that while may there are sensitive folks out there whom to us seem to have taken it to an unreasonable extreme it still doesn't require much on our parts to be a bit more accommodating.

I believe things got heated here because codeTRUCKER wanted more than that and took an offensive approach in seeking his aims. Perhaps in a day or so after people have made their closing comments the threads could even be locked to prevent them being resurrected in a months times.

Personally I'm not ashamed of my responses, but I am not proud of them either, it'd be nice to forget the incident but not the lesson.

This is a very sad end to all this really ... no more comment on that for now.

How about a mod that allows users to modify their posts for up to 1 hour after posting (to allow for inevitable typos to be corrected) but after that only add 'addendum' notes to messages and not edit original message content - that way corrections or clarifications could be added but the original thread is secure. It also saves confusion so that no one could go back and rewrite history (if the mood took them).

Strikes me this would be a better solution than version control as it would effectively manage itself, and it would be simpler to implement (probably).

I wonder if it is possible to suspend codeTRUCKER's editing rights before more stuff gets deleted?

Finally I think once this has all settled down perhaps the two threads could be either deleted in their entirety or edited to make some sense.

I wonder if it is possible to suspend codeTRUCKER's editing rights before more stuff gets deleted?

He already deleted most of his posts to this forum. See http://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=35217;sa=showPosts

Also, if you suspend his right to deletion he may just start a third thread.   

I agree with Josh.  Restore ALL the posts as it ruins the flow of threads they are in.

Truly a sad way to leave.  Burning bridges, no matter how small or seemingly insignificant, is never a good idea...

Actually, most of your questions, Carol, have already been discussed in a talk we had on irc.

Regarding the "not change the post after 1 hour", we decided that it isn't that good of an idea, because there are several situations where it's useful to be able to edit the posts. (think minireviews, program update posts, etc).

There could be an argument for allowing modification for a certain type of post after the 1 hour - but actually being able to add footnotes as updates is also a good way to retain the integrity of the original review (etc.) and then it is clear what changes have been made both when product versions change and when new products are added.

Alternatively updated versions could be submitted for inclusion in that sort of thread and it could be manually amended by a moderator (I wouldn't mind doing that) - there aren't so many messages of this type that it would become overly onerous. If it became a full time job we would have to review that though or get more people involved - we could have a trusted category for people who post this sort of thing.

This truly is sad. Leaves a big hole in the two tagging threads and in a number of other threads as well. AFAICT all but about two posts have been deleted - 411 or so in total, so this will affect other threads as well.

At least it gives an insight into what a tagging system might look like! If one were able to filter posts so that all of CodeTrucker's postings were hidden from view, this is what DC would look like... Definitely food for thought. Anyway, he's left a void and I wonder if it isn't to make a point (probably not the one I've guessed at) rather than an act of petulance?

I'm truly sorry that things have come to this point. As I've stated before (and as anyone who has read many of my posts will appreciate) I don't really share CodeTrucker's sensitivities to content and blue language  but I can fully appreciate his concerns and wish that he and we had handled this differently (and yes, I am aware that solutions were proposed - I'm not talking about addressing his concerns so much as the tone that the postings - from both him and others - took). Live and learn. I think Eóin really captured it with:

Hopefully those of us who followed or participated in these threads can walk away having learned one lesson; that while may there are sensitive folks out there whom to us seem to have taken it to an unreasonable extreme it still doesn't require much on our parts to be a bit more accommodating.

and

Personally I'm not ashamed of my responses, but I am not proud of them either, it'd be nice to forget the incident but not the lesson.

I agree with remembering the lesson - I suspect, however that a key part of that will be in remembering the incident as well. Thus, whatever decison is taken re: restoring access, etc. I think the threads themselves should be remain available and perhaps even open for posting.

PS re: allowing editing of posts in the future - I am with Lashiec, though I don't usually bother after a day or two has passed unless it's something really glaringly erroneous...

Honestly I would say it's not worth the effort in this particular case. Hopefully those of us who followed or participated in these threads can walk away having learned one lesson; that while may there are sensitive folks out there whom to us seem to have taken it to an unreasonable extreme it still doesn't require much on our parts to be a bit more accommodating.

I believe things got heated here because codeTRUCKER wanted more than that and took an offensive approach in seeking his aims. Perhaps in a day or so after people have made their closing comments the threads could even be locked to prevent them being resurrected in a months times.

Personally I'm not ashamed of my responses, but I am not proud of them either, it'd be nice to forget the incident but not the lesson.

Ok... I read a lot of the replies (for some reason some of them seemed not to come through in RSS), and I will say this.  I'm not defending CodeTRUCKER or his final actions, but all blame was not on his side.  There were quite a few attacking statements made against him- not just tongue in cheek or misunderstandings, but some very purposefully hurtful and spiteful things said.  To be fair, he seemed to be having this issue for a while, and just now has tried to take it to Mouser and the forums.  I'm sure this was a big step for him, and I don't think we should be proud of any of the things that came from this, nor trying to place blame or judge the person that's gone, even if it is of his own accord.  If we can learn from this- great.  But don't go heaping the blame on he person who can't defend himself, which it seems like this has degenerated to the point of- this shows that nothing was learned, IMO.

EDIT: I just noticed that CodeTRUCKER took down his NANY app... that seems a pretty radical response; I suppose if the link to his app is invalid, then perhaps its for the best, but that made me sad.  I'm not sure if you've edited the NANY page to reflect this mouser, but just wanted to let you know if you didn't.

I just noticed that CodeTRUCKER took down his NANY app..

yes he did, he also removed his entry from last year's as well.  i've taken it off the page listing the programs available.

it's his program, if he wants to remove it that his prerogative.  i have no feelings of anger just sadness that whatever he is going through has caused him such turmoil/anger.

Hm, wraith808's comment about "intelligent" filtering has made me think a bit... it's probably a good idea to implement a bad-word filter after all, and have it in effect for anonymous browsing of the forum - that way, web spiders won't index swear-words. For registered users, whether to enable the swear filter or not should be their own decision. I think I'll try to think a bit about the expletives I use because of this...  I just wonder how sensitive those intelligent filters are (and I think people installing them are outright stupid).

You notice that I put it in quotes... It filtered the forums here, but not at another forum that I visited that was worse... I think it might be because of the fact that the other forum had filters on people browsing anonymously.  Not sure...

Yeah, I did notice your quotes

We ended up with a global enforced-on bad words filter for asmcommunity.net because of such filters, apparently it's utilized a lot for schools and libraries in the .us?

Yeah, probably way too much bother to do backup restoration.

Not really, we already have an .sql file with all of his posts, all we'd have to do is to import it. not even 1 minute work But as I understand it we're waiting out on that until the new forum mod is complete...

I think the simplest idea (if anyone actually wants it) is to have an optional filter that users can manually enable that simply prints all expletives when viewing posts with either a row of **** or an icon such as

i like that idea.. but i'd like to suggest that the even simpler and better solution is to do this via a firefox plugin.
that way users can choose for themselves which words they dont like, and can have it applied to any site they visit, not just dc.