Author Topic: download all updates for XP in one go? (Read 49,254 times)

tomos · « **on:** August 22, 2007, 01:15 PM »

where to download all updates for XP in one go?

I know there used to be a site out there where you could get prepackaged so-to-speak updates for WinXP -
I want to combine them with XP CD for new install.
Just cant find it anywhere...
Any ideas (I was even there a couple months ago...
couldnt find anything here or googling, all I can think of is "updates")

I believe I bought the XP when it came out first so it doesnt even have SP1
I have SP2 on disc - does that supercede SP1? or do I need that too (naa, cant even find it anymore!)

thanks for any help, tom
EDIT/PS. was going to use nlite

justice · « **Reply #1 on:** August 22, 2007, 01:24 PM »

Never used this, but heard it mentioned:
http://autopatcher.com/whatsautopatcher/

tomos · « **Reply #2 on:** August 22, 2007, 01:30 PM »

thanks justice,

I got more creative with my searching & found:
XUD Pack (Xables Light Post XP-SP2 Update Pack)
http://udp.xable.net/changelog.html
&
RyanVM's Windows XP Post-SP2 Update Pack
http://www.ryanvm.net/msfn/updatepack.html

could anyone comment on any of these (EDIT: inc justices link above)?
(neither of which were the site I had looked at before...)

Darwin · « **Reply #3 on:** August 22, 2007, 01:34 PM »

Tom - all you need is Sp-2 (it supersedes Sp-1) but that only helps if you can find the disc you burned it to!

tomos · « **Reply #4 on:** August 22, 2007, 01:38 PM »

Quote from: Darwin on August 22, 2007, 01:34 PM

Tom - all you need is Sp-2 (it supersedes Sp-1) but that only helps if you can find the disc you burned it to!

thanks Mike, I reckon I can dig it out

Quote from: justice on August 22, 2007, 01:24 PM

Never used this, but heard it mentioned:
http://autopatcher.com/whatsautopatcher/

Autopatcher is the one I was thinking of

well, sort of !!
it redirects you to Neowin.net when you go to download.

Still happy to take anyones recommendations on any of those sites

tomos · « **Reply #5 on:** August 22, 2007, 02:19 PM »

well, autopatcher/neowin seems to be undownloadable
unless you using bittorrent
the Ryan one is downloading @ 10KB/second
thankfully I got the XUD already (200KB/sec, phew)

strange
autopatcher one is around the 300MB mark
RyanVM's one is around the 50MB mark
XUD is around 25MB only

will let ye know how i get on anyways!

EDIT: all above sizes offered as post SP2
PS. found SP2 disc so even if I only get that much slipstreamed I'll be reasonably happy

tomos · « **Reply #6 on:** August 22, 2007, 03:56 PM »

saga continues

had to download net framework for the laptop I using
(#2 requested, only #3 on offer so hopefully that does the job) to run nlite.
I had a check at windows updates & was offered an update to speed up updates/ensure I dont get any older(N/A) updates and so on spiel -
was shocked when I looked at the details to discover it was that update that checks your xp to ensure it's not pirated - whasitcalled Genuine advantage notification or something similar name

WTF WTF WTF
they're still trying to sneak that one in - and
under such false pretenses.

anyways, nlite running now as I write

cthorpe · « **Reply #7 on:** August 22, 2007, 10:27 PM »

I have used Autopatcher with great success in the past. It is a huge download, but I've done it without bittorrent. I always use the Cachefly mirror at http://www.getautopatcher.com/

Once you get the core download, you only need to download the monthly updates which are much smaller.

Carl

Lashiec · « **Reply #8 on:** August 22, 2007, 11:47 PM »

This option has one caveat, though. Does Autopatcher installs what you really need? That is, does it check the system to avoid installing unneeded (or even harmful) patches like the recent one for the Core 2 Duo and similar architecture processors? Actually, Windows Update downloads everything in one go, and pretty fast as well. It's true you get WGA as well, but you're going to need it to download something from Microsoft site (mwahaha, the plan is going as expected!)

tomos · « **Reply #9 on:** August 23, 2007, 11:37 AM »

Quote from: cthorpe on August 22, 2007, 10:27 PM

I have used Autopatcher with great success in the past. It is a huge download, but I've done it without bittorrent. I always use the Cachefly mirror at http://www.getautopatcher.com/

Once you get the core download, you only need to download the monthly updates which are much smaller.

Carl

that worked a dream, thanks Carl

tomos · « **Reply #10 on:** August 23, 2007, 12:16 PM »

Lashiec, I have Core2duo & I get the impression at neowin thast they're fussy about what gets included so reckon I'll chance it

Quote from: tomos on August 22, 2007, 03:56 PM

anyways, nlite running now as I write

unfortunately first nlite iso didnt boot - missing some unidentified kernel file...
I had included the XUD updates (post #2)
dont know if that was the problem or nlite itself
will try it again with just the SP2 pack & xp

EDIT: I had used the beta of nlite, maybe that was it...

urlwolf · « **Reply #11 on:** August 23, 2007, 01:14 PM »

How about this shavlik technologies business?

I have 'updated' my clean XP install after the mouse drivers went wrong. Now, it is suppossedly installing updates... only that it isn't.
The windows update is borked. Again. I have spent over a week trying to get this comptuter into shape.

I hate how M$ is making me waste time like noone's business.

Is Shavlik recommended? Anyone using it?

What can I do if the updates don't get installed (with a legit dell XP CD!)...
!#%^&#!

Darwin · « **Reply #12 on:** August 23, 2007, 02:15 PM »

I used Shavlik for about six months back when they were offering a one year licence for free (so, about a year ago). It did the job - I ran my system without using Windows Update at all during that time, but I found the way it presented the info resulting from a scan confusing (could me me, though). Once you learn how to navigate its interface, it's OK. It uninstalled without much drama, so I think your best bet is to try the demo, if they're still offering one.

tomos · « **Reply #13 on:** August 23, 2007, 02:48 PM »

how about that WindizUpdate firefox plugin/update?
http://windowsupdate.62nds.com/

havent used it myself but it featured in a thread here lately without any negativity

Dirhael · « **Reply #14 on:** August 23, 2007, 06:05 PM »

While all those update packs are great (I've used them myself), I actually prefer a small utility called "Windows Updates Downloader". It'll download all the hotfixes directly from Microsoft (thus ensuring that they're safe and not tampered with), and it let's you pick just the ones you want. He even have update lists for Vista now

Darwin · « **Reply #15 on:** August 23, 2007, 06:12 PM »

Looks good, Dirhael. Thanks for the link - I'm checking it out. I'm attracted by the idea of picking and choosing the updates. I usually use the Custom option in MS Updates to achieve this, but like the availability of an option to simply download the files and research the updates without having to have MS or Windows Update scan my computer (and go through all of the WGA checking and so on).

Dirhael · « **Reply #16 on:** August 23, 2007, 06:57 PM »

Quote from: Darwin on August 23, 2007, 06:12 PM

Looks good, Dirhael. Thanks for the link - I'm checking it out. I'm attracted by the idea of picking and choosing the updates. I usually use the Custom option in MS Updates to achieve this, but like the availability of an option to simply download the files and research the updates without having to have MS or Windows Update scan my computer (and go through all of the WGA checking and so on).

Yeah, WGA is a pain as I hardly ever use IE so to validate I have to run their manual 1.5MB validation tool. It's not a big download or hard to use, but I don't feel like I should have to prove over and over again that I acually own my copy of Windows.

By the way, press the "Show options" if you like me like to see the publish date for the updates

Darwin · « **Reply #17 on:** August 23, 2007, 07:04 PM »

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By the way, press the "Show options" if you like me like to see the publish date for the updates

Ooh! I like that... thanks again.

laughinglizard · « **Reply #18 on:** August 23, 2007, 07:06 PM »

Quote from: tomos on August 23, 2007, 02:48 PM

how about that WindizUpdate firefox plugin/update?
http://windowsupdate.62nds.com/

havent used it myself but it featured in a thread here lately without any negativity

I've been using WinDiz for a few years with no problems. My understanding is that the downloads come directly from the Microsoft Update site - the WinDiz people sort out things like the Windows Genuine Advantage downloads and list updates in the critical, security, and driver areas.

Autopatcher I've never used for updates - I've used it to slipstream XP or XP SP1 with XP SP2.

nlite is good - it allows you to to create an (unattended, if you wish) Windows installation CD that leaves out any parts of Windows that you don't want installed, and it will include any updates and hotfixes that have been installed on your system to date.
There's an excellent tutorial here:
http://teamtutorials.com/windows-tutorials/how-to-make-a-custom-windows-install-w-nlite
with links to update packs with .NET framework included and a link to a site with info on what not to take out.

nlite doesn't download all in the updates in one go round though.

You can get all the downloads from the Microsoft Catalog Update:
http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog
This is not Windows Update.
This is where you can download updates etc. for most Microsoft products that bypasses Windows Update.

and there's an article in Microsoft Support on:
"How to download updates and drivers from the Windows Update Catalog"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/323166

and last:
Microsoft Download Center: Help
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/render.aspx?displaylang=en&content=help

tomos · « **Reply #19 on:** August 24, 2007, 07:30 AM »

Quote from: laughinglizard on August 23, 2007, 07:06 PM

Autopatcher I've never used for updates - I've used it to slipstream XP or XP SP1 with XP SP2.

nlite is good - it allows you to to create an (unattended, if you wish) Windows installation CD that leaves out any parts of Windows that you don't want installed, and it will include any updates and hotfixes that have been installed on your system to date.
There's an excellent tutorial here:
http://teamtutorials.com/windows-tutorials/how-to-make-a-custom-windows-install-w-nlite
with links to update packs with .NET framework included and a link to a site with info on what not to take out.

nlite doesn't download all in the updates in one go round though.

You can get all the downloads from the Microsoft Catalog Update:
http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog
...

ahh, was a bit confused there for a bit -
I think you mean you used Autostreamer for slipstreaming XP & SP2?

I've been trying to use Autopatcher updates with nlite & well it doesnt work
Reading their forums it used to work at some stage but they dont seem to be compatible any more
ah well, will try RyanVMs

PS: I used nlite for one install already but made the big mistake of choosing to always login "my account" which I accidentally left as "user"
for some reason couldnt login as admin... loadsafun

EDIT: -
PS. thanks for those links & tips laughinglizard -
some good tips in that nlite tutorial!

laughinglizard · « **Reply #20 on:** August 24, 2007, 07:12 PM »

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ahh, was a bit confused there for a bit -
I think you mean you used Autostreamer for slipstreaming XP & SP2?

Autostreamer is right Tomos, I'm always getting the two confused.

I haven't used Autopatcher. I stick to Windiz or go to the Windows Update Catalog if there is something that needs to be downloaded quickly.

dmholmes · « **Reply #21 on:** August 28, 2007, 12:18 AM »

I use a combination of RyanVM and DriverPacks (http://driverpacks.net/) to keep an up to date XP SP2 install DVD with drivers. No more digging for drivers all the time, woohoo!

tomos · « **Reply #22 on:** August 28, 2007, 06:52 AM »

Quote from: dmholmes on August 28, 2007, 12:18 AM

I use a combination of RyanVM and DriverPacks (http://driverpacks.net/) to keep an up to date XP SP2 install DVD with drivers. No more digging for drivers all the time, woohoo!

do you use nlite or the RyanVM slipstreamer, (cant think of the name)

I havent had any success slipstreaming any updates with nlite so far -
I should really just give up on it but I find it hard to resist all those options nlite has...

PhilB66 · « **Reply #23 on:** August 29, 2007, 11:59 PM »

Microsoft sends takedown notice to AutoPatcher

icekin · « **Reply #24 on:** August 30, 2007, 07:42 AM »

Yet another good product killed by M$

Why couldn't they have just bought Autopatcher over?