Author Topic: Latest FARR v2.00.140 ALPHA PREVIEW Release - Aug 15, 2007 (Read 840,318 times)

Babis · « **Reply #100 on:** January 09, 2007, 09:29 AM »

Thanks for the excellent release.

Please consider to add "Size" in the columns, it will be very handy and useful

edit: Also it would be nice if I could use the "delete" button. It seems that in order to delete an item from the list I have to go
appskey>shell context menu>delete
I would like just to press delete when I am on the list, if possible.

jdmarch · « **Reply #101 on:** January 09, 2007, 03:17 PM »

> Size, Delete

Both of these questions, as well as some earlier ones, are basically asking for FARR to incrementally take on more and more of the role of a file explorer/browser. While this is a very tempting idea, I don't think that such features should be added on piecemeal. What about showing/changing the file timestamp? Showing/changing attributes? What about rename? Bulk rename? What about copy/move? Hmm, so what about showing both source & target panes? What about drilling down into zip/archive files?

BUT... there already are some superb 3rd party file explorers (Total Comander for me), and mouser still has on his plate, almost untouched, a whole pile of strategic questions to address for FARR 3 that directly relate to FARR's central job of being a launcher on steroids.

JennyB · « **Reply #102 on:** January 09, 2007, 06:16 PM »

Quote from: jdmarch on January 09, 2007, 03:17 PM

> Size, Delete

BUT... there already are some superb 3rd party file explorers (Total Comander for me), and mouser still has on his plate, almost untouched, a whole pile of strategic questions to address for FARR 3 that directly relate to FARR's central job of being a launcher on steroids.

Agreed. My original idea of showing the entire directory listing was based on the idea that this might be faster than running the search again. If it isn't, forget it.

For now, I find myself using FARR2 a lot to open directories in DOpus. Once you've opened the first one, it goes very fast, and I don't see any amount of extensions to FaRR being able to compete. In fact, maybe the default action for directories should be to launch the file manager. After all, that is the program "associated" with directories, isn't it?

I think too, that in real use, when you want to look for something under a particular directory, you'll do \dirna... TAB filena..

In other words, when you want to do a path completion you nearly always want to do it on the first entry. Otherwise "Select, Right-Arrow" is fast enough.

mouser · « **Reply #103 on:** January 12, 2007, 12:25 PM »

im going to come back to some of these display issues in a bit.
meanwhile v2.00.23 is released as of jan 12, with lots of tweaking (see first post in thread for change history).
download is at same url as previous alpha version.

mja · « **Reply #104 on:** January 12, 2007, 03:48 PM »

Alright I can't wait any longer. Mouser can I get a link to the newest Find & Run link. Thanks.

jdmarch · « **Reply #105 on:** January 12, 2007, 07:10 PM »

Thanks, Mouser -- you have really been burning up your coding keyboard!

The new improvements in multi-word searches now reveal a difference in expectations. I expect a multi-word search to look in both the filename and its path. Why? because it's too common for some self-centered programs to install themselves so that the company or program name is only in a folder name, and then the actual shortcut name only contains a particular function, like "Audio" or "Update" or "Uninstall". So I would hope to use a multi-word search including both the company/program and the function.

Maybe multi-word searches are not the best way to address this, but that has been the use that I have most been looking forward to. And this is not how the new version works. Can't say for sure about previous version in retrospect.

mouser · « **Reply #106 on:** January 12, 2007, 07:17 PM »

jdmarch can you give me an example of a search that doesn't work as expected and what you want it to do?
actually it is quite easy for me to make a change that would allow it to match words in a path and just disabled it since it seemed to be returning too many hits.. but perhaps i could put it back with an option.

mouser · « **Reply #107 on:** January 12, 2007, 07:19 PM »

oh and another thing, keep in mind jdmatch that the multiword stuff is separate from the new path specification feature.

so you can already currently do:

c:\pro\ado\photoshop

to find c:\program files\adobe\photoshop

--

also note you dont actually have to specify the full path starting with c:\
if the path was on your search path somewhere you could just typoe: \ado\photoshop

teegee543 · « **Reply #108 on:** January 12, 2007, 08:35 PM »

Hey mouser! Thanks for writing this great tool. I can't wait any longer either, so could I have the link to the latest version of FARR?

mouser · « **Reply #109 on:** January 12, 2007, 08:37 PM »

of course you may! link sent

jdmarch · « **Reply #110 on:** January 12, 2007, 10:33 PM »

Yes, I can see how this could get tricky, not obvious the best way to implement it. But here goes:

I want to be able to type this:
rox creat
and reach this:
D:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Roxio Easy Media Creator 8\Data\Creator Classic.lnk

I would think that the more words were actually in the filename (as opposed to the path) the higher the score would be. So the above file, which contains "creat" (though not "rox") would rank higher than this one:
D:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Roxio Easy Media Creator 8\Home.lnk
where both words are in the path, not in the filename.

Can this be nailed down? I realize that I am probably missing other sources of ambiguity.

Also, I do see that typing
\rox\ creat
does the job. So maybe I'm just really, really lazy! (But of course I am... that's why I love FARR so much

)

Thanks again! Whatever you decide about this will work for me. Just trying to report on the user experience.

mouser · « **Reply #111 on:** January 12, 2007, 10:56 PM »

i think i will add what you are asking as an option.

Josh · « **Reply #112 on:** January 12, 2007, 11:05 PM »

Mouser, I must say, the option with the modifiers is PERFECT. Typing in a keyword modifier should eliminate all results as it does with the new release. Great job!

peteg05 · « **Reply #113 on:** January 13, 2007, 09:45 AM »

Hello Mouser,

all the features sound too great to wait any longer. Could you please also send me the link to the latest version?

Thanks,
peteg06

mouser · « **Reply #114 on:** January 13, 2007, 09:51 AM »

jdmarch, i have added an option to do as you ask:

mouser · « **Reply #115 on:** January 13, 2007, 01:10 PM »

v2.00.25 uploaded.
see change list on first post.

Armando · « **Reply #116 on:** January 14, 2007, 05:41 AM »

Seems to be working really really well. Bravo.

I like Babis' suggestion of having a "size" column...

And why not adding the ability to “click” on a column header (name, size, type, or score) to sort files accordingly (explorer like behavior)? This could be very very useful in cases where you want to see many files belonging to a common “project” (with very similar names) sorted in a way that can be easier to read (depending on one's need).

And, even better, there could be an option to set the default action.

And… of course, aliases could be assigned to different searches, all with different “sorting options”…

Of course, that might be too complicated to add in v.2…

Good luck with v.2’s finishing touch!

Armando

Armando · « **Reply #117 on:** January 14, 2007, 06:00 AM »

Quote from: jdmarch on January 09, 2007, 03:17 PM

> Size, Delete

Both of these questions, as well as some earlier ones, are basically asking for FARR to incrementally take on more and more of the role of a file explorer/browser. While this is a very tempting idea, I don't think that such features should be added on piecemeal. What about showing/changing the file timestamp? Showing/changing attributes? What about rename? Bulk rename? What about copy/move? Hmm, so what about showing both source & target panes? What about drilling down into zip/archive files?

BUT... there already are some superb 3rd party file explorers (Total Comander for me), and mouser still has on his plate, almost untouched, a whole pile of strategic questions to address for FARR 3 that directly relate to FARR's central job of being a launcher on steroids.

In some ways, I agree.
But... is X1 -- which has all these very very handy sorting options -- another "explorer"? Would you use X1 instead of "explorer" or "total commander"?
To me FARR is a launcher, yes. But it's efficiency and power partly comes from the fact that it's a great file browser and "sorter". I don't think that adding more ways to browse folders and files (without slowing it down too much) and classify them will hamper its main function : lunch files -- especially if the user is able toggle these options on or off, depending on her need (FARR already does it, it allows tweaking). On the contrary : everybody has slightly different needs when it comes to file launching, file sorting, file exploring, file managing....etc. (And that's probably why you like Total Commander... personnally, I'm satisfied with explorer... Strange, I know

)

pomj · « **Reply #118 on:** January 14, 2007, 12:41 PM »

A small feature request...

I would like to be able to make an alias/shortcut to launch multiple programs. It would be very handy.

br
/michael

TucknDar · « **Reply #119 on:** January 14, 2007, 12:57 PM »

Thought that was already a feature in FARR, but I haven't tried, so I may have misunderstood the Help-file...

jgpaiva · « **Reply #120 on:** January 14, 2007, 01:08 PM »

Quote from: pomj on January 14, 2007, 12:41 PM

I would like to be able to make an alias/shortcut to launch multiple programs. It would be very handy.

Well.. You already can.
Here's an example of how to do it:

The only thing you can't do is launch them all at the same time. But you can call up the alias (in the case of the example, type "startup"), and then press alt+1,alt+2,alt+3, etc... Which will launch those without closing farr. (at least, i think "alt" is the default key for that).

pomj · « **Reply #121 on:** January 14, 2007, 01:30 PM »

Quote from: jgpaiva on January 14, 2007, 01:08 PM

Quote from: pomj on January 14, 2007, 12:41 PM
I would like to be able to make an alias/shortcut to launch multiple programs. It would be very handy.
Well.. You already can.
[...]
The only thing you can't do is launch them all at the same time. [...]

But that's what I want to be able to do. Thus when I launch "code" I launch my IDE, my editor and my filemanager.

cheers

mouser · « **Reply #122 on:** January 14, 2007, 01:46 PM »

I shall add it.
(actually it used to launch all with CTRL+Enter but i disabled this very recently because i felt it was too likely to hit by accident).

I will bring back this feature, it's useful for actually the stuff pomj says. the only question is what hotkey to use to mean launch all results (all items in the alias).

pomj · « **Reply #123 on:** January 14, 2007, 01:51 PM »

GREAT. Thank's mouser.

mouser · « **Reply #124 on:** January 14, 2007, 02:25 PM »

Actually it looks like i left it in and just changed the shortcut to CTRL+ALT+Enter.
Hit that and it should launch all results currently listed.