Author Topic: kmplayer, whoa!!! (Read 29,301 times)

kimmchii · « **on:** September 23, 2006, 11:19 AM »

i downloaded this high definition video:

BBC Motion Gallery: Japan

the 1080p version,

all these players lag like hell, the video playback looks like a slideshow:

bsplayer
wmp
gom
vlc
quicktime 7 player

these players lag slightly:
zoom player
media player classic

kmplayer is the only player that plays the file flawlessly, no lag nothing, amazing, eventho my system is somewhat below the requirements:

i have:
* 2.8 Ghz Intel Pentium D
* 1GB of RAM
* 128MB video card

Recommended Hardware Configurations for H.264 High Definition (HD) Playback:

* 3.0 Ghz Intel Pentium D (dual-core) or faster processor
* At least 1GB of RAM
* 64MB or greater video card

kmplayer

nudone · « **Reply #1 on:** September 23, 2006, 11:43 AM »

good to hear.

jgpaiva · « **Reply #2 on:** September 23, 2006, 11:44 AM »

Quote from: kimmchii on September 23, 2006, 11:19 AM

kmplayer

Ok... Looks like it's time for me to download kmplayer

Renegade · « **Reply #3 on:** September 24, 2006, 04:08 PM »

Ummm... Which one?

There are two of them. One is a Linux KMPlayer. The other is a Windows application...

kimmchii · « **Reply #4 on:** September 24, 2006, 04:20 PM »

The Windows application.

masu · « **Reply #5 on:** October 07, 2007, 09:29 AM »

thanks for the hint for KMPlayer. It seems so that it can also play unfinished videos like on emule. The interface seems also to be better than VLC. I think I will replace VLC with KMPlayer.

Nighted · « **Reply #6 on:** October 07, 2007, 10:25 AM »

Strange. I find MPC plays video flawlessly in comparison to KMPlayer.

Of course, that's in combination with ffdshow and the proper codecs.

KMPlayer is very nice though and has features I wish MPC had.... $:-\$

Dirhael · « **Reply #7 on:** October 07, 2007, 12:25 PM »

The reason it's playing better on KMPlayer in comparison to the others has nothing to do with the application, but everything to do with your codecs and/or video renderer + colour space settings. In this case with H.264 encoded content, KMPlayer (with the bundled H.264 codec) is actually very inefficient in comparison to any DirectShow player when you are using the CoreAVC codec. That said, it is a very nice program that I use daily, even if the configuration dialogue is designed by evil hamsters from hell...

Oh and in response to masu; Any DS player, ranging from MPC to WMP, will play unfinished videos as long as you use a proper splitter. I'm going to guess that the files in question are of the AVI type? If so, what you should be using is the Gabest AVI splitter (which I think is what KMPlayer uses as well)

mwang · « **Reply #8 on:** October 07, 2007, 12:40 PM »

Has the charge against KMPlayer about GPL violation been cleared?

Curt · « **Reply #9 on:** October 07, 2007, 06:00 PM »

Maybe you should update / upgrade your QuickTime Player. The playback of this file in QuickTime Player PRO 7.2 is absolutely flawless.

KMPlayer is okay, though - that's why I have kept it for half a year by now - but MPC is a little less buggy.

Ralf Maximus · « **Reply #10 on:** October 07, 2007, 06:08 PM »

Old news for some folks, but worth repeating if you're having codec difficulties:

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/K_Lite_Codec_Pack.htm

K-Lite is free, installs a fresh copy of MPC, and plays *everything* I've thrown at it, including QuickTime and Real media. Once I found K-Lite I uninstalled Apple's QuickTime (who needs iTune support anyway?) and waved fond farewell to RealPlayer, middle finger firmly erect.

Nighted · « **Reply #11 on:** October 09, 2007, 09:36 AM »

Quote from: Ralf Maximus on October 07, 2007, 06:08 PM

Old news for some folks, but worth repeating if you're having codec difficulties:

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/K_Lite_Codec_Pack.htm

K-Lite is free, installs a fresh copy of MPC, and plays *everything* I've thrown at it, including QuickTime and Real media. Once I found K-Lite I uninstalled Apple's QuickTime (who needs iTune support anyway?) and waved fond farewell to RealPlayer, middle finger firmly erect.

heheh

f0dder · « **Reply #12 on:** October 09, 2007, 10:06 AM »

The CoreAVC codec is indeed a lot faster+smoother than anything else I've seen. I heard they do some tricks that degrade image quality a bit, but it's nothing I've been able to notice on normal playback (but feel free to do framegrabs of coreavc and whatever free H.264 codecs, it might show

).

Black Mamba · « **Reply #13 on:** October 09, 2007, 12:05 PM »

CoreAVC does have some issues with many versions of x264 codec (macroblocking) and the image quality can be improved.

But still, it's easiest way we can enjoy HD playback without a powerful computer.

Darwin · « **Reply #14 on:** October 10, 2007, 12:59 AM »

Quote from: Ralf Maximus on October 07, 2007, 06:08 PM

Once I found K-Lite I uninstalled Apple's QuickTime (who needs iTune support anyway?) and waved fond farewell to RealPlayer, middle finger firmly erect.

Hmm... this is interesting. I solved my QuickTime/RealPlayer problem with Quicktime Alternative and RealPlayer Alternative respectively. You're saying that K-Lite will replace both of them? That scenario is pretty attractive, given that the "Alternative" route still installs Apple and Real components. Does K-Lite do the same?

lanux128 · « **Reply #15 on:** October 10, 2007, 01:19 AM »

the Quicktime Alternative project has been abandoned due to Apple's insistence and since then has been replaced by QT Lite. btw, if i'm not mistaken, all three are re-packaged by the same team, more info here..

Ralf Maximus · « **Reply #16 on:** October 10, 2007, 01:48 AM »

Yep, K-Lite plays QT and Real media, no problem. I don't know if it incorporates any of the Real Alternative stuff or has its own codecs. It just works.

Darwin · « **Reply #17 on:** October 10, 2007, 02:44 AM »

Hmm... (Darwin strokes chin reflectively - trying to look intelligent but really scrambling for something to say). All I have to say is F*&%$#! Apple... I'll have to take a look at QT Lite but might be better served by K-Lite. I'll have to take a look! Thanks guys

Nighted · « **Reply #18 on:** October 10, 2007, 07:43 AM »

Darwin, K-Lite doesn't include the QuickTime components anymore. But they are available as a separate download. I'm using QT Lite now and it's better than having the official QuickTime garbage bunging up the innards of your machine.

Ralf Maximus · « **Reply #19 on:** October 10, 2007, 12:15 PM »

I installed K-Lite Standard and got QT support. I'm certain of it because the reason I downloaded was to fix broken QT streaming.

Darwin · « **Reply #20 on:** October 10, 2007, 12:22 PM »

OK, thanks guys. I'll have to check this out for myself.

EDIT: Actually, no need... This thread got me thinking and I took a look at GOMPlayer, which is my favourite media player - it has its own codecs to handle both QT and RP files. So... I uninstalled both QT Alt and RP Alt and associated GOMPlayer with all of their respective file types. Not only do I no longer have any Apple or Real components installed (as evident from the fact that the Apple and Real folders are now absent from Program Files and the various Application Data folders under Documents and Settings) but all of their files play just fine in GOM

f0dder · « **Reply #21 on:** October 10, 2007, 12:31 PM »

Afaik "quicktime alternative" had the official quicktime codec stuff ripped out of the official package - so you would still be using "real quicktime", just without the bollocks player, intrusive auto-updater, etc.

Wouldn't be surprised if it's the same story with QT Lite, so it'll probably be taken down by apple as well. I wonder why they don't just smell the coffee and realize people hate their player, and just offer unobtrusive codecs instead.

Darwin · « **Reply #22 on:** October 10, 2007, 12:43 PM »

Interesting fodder. I wonder how GOMPlayer is handling these file types? The Preferences section allows the user to opt to associate QT and RP file types with native GOM codecs and as mentioned removing both QT and RP Alternatives also ridded me of Apple and Real settings folders. Still, I suspect that GOM is using the official codecs as well. I don't care, it works, it's two fewer programmes installed on my machine and I am happy!

Lashiec · « **Reply #23 on:** October 10, 2007, 11:29 PM »

I like the official QuickTime player

*hides*

Darwin · « **Reply #24 on:** October 10, 2007, 11:39 PM »

*Darwin throws his cookies at his computer monitor. Feels sheepish*

Ha ha, Lashiec. No need to hide (projectile cookies notwithstanding). I didn't really have an issue with QuickTime (like you I quite liked it - I even have a licence for the Pro version), but I seized upon the opportunity to get rid of Apple software. iTunes was really getting up my nose and I ripped it out (all those services and tasks running in the background with no way to get rid of them). I decided to get rid of QuickTime as well because I simply do not use any of the Pro features and because an Apple-free Windows machine just feels right!