[Moto G6]

A double twist of the wrist opens the camera app, even if the phone is locked, very quick, the app is running by the time I hold it up for a photo.

I had figured that out -- but not this:

Doing it while the camera is running will also swap between the front/rear camera.

it's not ideal for my wrist (have problems with both after years of drawing with a mouse), but doable for those occasional important moments.

I'm still undecided about the phone -- it is a lovely phone. Will have more time Friday to test it. Football is very distracting at the moment

I don't know about the G6 but there is also another way to fast start the camera app, Settings->Display->Press power button twice for camera - unfortunately no good if you've got it locked with a PIN or Pattern, it'll ask you for it.

unfortunately that's not shown as an option for me here:
was wondering if options would change if I removed the PIN, but it then says it will delete my saved fingerprints. Odd. (Not looking for help there: will mess around with that when I have a bit of time).

I like the G6 a lot. Haven't yet used it much, and am still in that phase of: I've been using a different OS for 2.5 years and only notice the things that are worse in this one.
But I have decided to keep the phone and am happy about the decision. I know that Android has the advantage (over Windows phones) that there are a lot of options in terms of apps and possibilities.

Here a shot I was happy with:



I see it's HDR -- been messing around with settings so not sure what's on or off...

I just bought a Moto G6, and I like it much better than the G3 or G4.

It's a bit more narrow than the G4, but doesn't seem to suffer from the most reported issue of the G4, namely the "ghost taps" which are annoying enough that I'll be shipping my G4 back for service, while it's still under warranty.

Not sure how well you can see it, but here's the G6 (left) and G4 (right), side by side, for size comparison, with almost identical protective cases. In the 3rd image, the G6 is on top of the G4, and you can see some of the G4 sticking out. It's not a huge size difference, like it was going from the G3 to G4, but if you are hoping for an even bigger screen than older models, it's not going to happen. As I stated before, the screen is actually smaller. You might perceive this as either a good thing or bad thing, depending on the size of your hands or pockets, or other factors. (one of my favorite games is ad free on the G3 and G6, because of screen size, crediting me with bonuses for viewing video ads, without actually showing the ads. You get stuck with video ads on the G4's larger screen, because the game treats it same as a tablet.)



Battery life of the G6 doesn't seem as good as the G4, though, even though they are both 3000 mAh. And you'll need extra USB-C chargers, as all your existing micro-USB will be useless with it.

Sim & SD cards are inserted from the outside, into a little slide out tray on the top edge of the phone, rather than having to take the back off the phone to install them. And despite what is advertised, it does support SD cards over 128G (I have a 256G in mine). The cards seem to be located away from the battery, unlike previous models. Perhaps this will help ensure that the heat from battery, during charging, won't knock them out, which is something else I experienced frequently with the G4 and only occasionally with the G3.

It works well with thicker protective cases, and you'll probably want one of those rather than a thinner case, because the glass on the back that covers the camera sticks out far enough that if the case is too thin or you use it without a case, that glass will hit the table when you set the phone down.

I got the Amazon Prime version, so double clicking the power button activates Alexa, rather than turning the camera on. But like previous Moto G models, making a chopping motion still turns on the flash light, and twisting turns on the camera.

Would I recommend this phone? Absolutely! I still feel it's the best phone available in this price range, and affordable enough to get one, unlocked.

Quote from: app103 on July 24, 2018, 10:24 PM

Battery life of the G6 doesn't seem as good as the G4, though, even though they are both 3000 mAh.

Apparently not available in the USA but the G6+ should be better with battery life, they use the more efficient Snapdragon 6 series SoC instead of the 4 series used in the G6 and G6 Play.

When I mentioned this to my father, he started going on about some 10K mAh phone he found listed somewhere (Oukitel K10000). When I went & looked it up, found out it takes 20 hrs to charge and doesn't work with any US carriers.  (No thanks, Dad!)

What are the top 3-5 cheapest mobiles with NFC and >5000mah?
Any idea?

Any suggestion for the best phone with longest battery and NFC?

I believe you are in the UK.  If so, then:

1. Visit your local newsagent or supermarket, and buy a copy of the latest issue of UK magazine Computer Shopper, hot off the press, Issue 369 dated Nov 18.
2. Read, mark, learn and inwardly digest the article "Avoid the smartphone rip-off: 18 low cost phones that get you high-end specs."
3. Make your choice, accepting that whatever you do will be imperfect and temporary.

This more commentary than anything else:

A friend asked for a phone recommendation.
I bought the Moto G6 myself a while back, I love it and would recommend it to anyone (note I dont use it for games), apart from the fact it has a glass back, that on mine is already broken in two places. In fairness I like to use minimal protection/cover and have dropped it a few times. It is still usable with a silicon cover. Next time round though I'll try get something with a metal or plastic back.

So anyways, I was looking for alternatives, am surprised how few other good recommendations I've found in that price class (say 150 to 200 euro). I'm looking for a phone for the European market, a phone whose warranty is valid in the same market, ideally a phone bought from a German seller to ease return if necessary. What really surprised me was that on German amazon (.de) there are a *lot* of phones from eastern Europe, Russia, from the US being sold without any indication that they are not for the German market; many of them have no warranty here.
More disturbing is that there seems to be a lot of B-ware (and worse) being sold as new (again no indication). I'm starting to think amazon is not the place to buy a phone... (or if so, to buy very carefully).

I've been quite happy with the Nokia 6.1 (64 GB model) I bought last year. I searched on amazon.de and found the 32 GB model here that should fit the budget. I assume you can pick a different color for a similar price, if desired.
It has a decent processor and quit fair battery life (2+ days on light use), and all modern stuff like usb-c, 3.5mm audioplug, no notch and a (fast) fingerprint scanner on the back.

I would check the specs on the Redmi, there are very few Xiaomi phones designed for countries other than China or India.

The ones that say "Global" usually just means they have English set as the default language and the Play Store available, no changes for the underlying hardware.

There's also the Moto G5S Plus if you don't mind the previous model and a reasonably vanilla Android:
https://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_13?k=moto+g5s+plus&sprefix=moto+g5s+plus

I would check the specs on the Redmi, there are very few Xiaomi phones designed for countries other than China or India.

The ones that say "Global" usually just means they have English set as the default language and the Play Store available, no changes for the underlying hardware.

some are labeled as 'global' some as 'EU' -- it's not clear what if any difference. Most places dont give as much info as they could (some making no mention of warranty, although just found one reputable with two years warranty.)
It's for sale in at least one larger bricks and mortar shop here now. And many reputable online merchants. Only a few amazon reviews but they seem genuine and very positive...

specs from geizahls

https://geizhals.at/xiaomi-redmi-6a-32gb-2gb-blau-a1846828.html
OS Android 8.1
Display 5.45", 1440x720 Pixel, 16 Mio. Farben, IPS, kapazitiver Touchscreen
Kamera hinten 13.0MP, f/​2.2, Phasenvergleich-AF, LED-Blitz, Videos @1080p/​30fps
Kamera vorne 5.0MP
Schnittstellen Micro-USB-B 2.0, 3.5mm-Klinke, WLAN 802.11b/​g/​n, Bluetooth 4.2
Sensoren Beschleunigungssensor, Annäherungssensor, Lichtsensor, Kompass
SoC Mediatek Helio A22, 64bit
CPU 4x 2.00GHz Cortex-A53
GPU PowerVR GE8300
RAM 2GB
Speicher 32GB, microSD-Slot (shared, bis 256GB)
Navigation A-GPS, GLONASS, BeiDou
Modem GSM (0.2Mbps/​0.1Mbps), UMTS, LTE
Frequenzbänder 2G (850/​900/​1800/​1900), 3G (B1/​B2/​B5/​B8), 4G (B1/​B2/​B3/​B4/​B5/​B7/​B8/​B20/​B38/​B40)
Netzstandards GPRS, EDGE, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+, LTE-A
Akku 3000mAh, fest verbaut
SAR-Wert 0.656W/​kg (Kopf), 1.523W/​kg (Körper)
Gehäuseform Barren
Gehäusematerial Kunststoff (Rückseite)
Abmessungen 147.5x71.5x8.3mm
Gewicht 145g
SIM-Formfaktor Nano-SIM (1x shared)
Besonderheiten Dual-SIM, Benachrichtigungs-LED (einfarbig)
Gelistet seit 09.07.2018, 13:28

specs from Notebooksbilliger 'EU' version

https://www.notebooksbilliger.de/xiaomi+redmi+6a+32gb+dual+sim+blau+eu?nbbRef=forcew2evf6
Herstellernummer: MZB6347EU
EAN-Nummer:    6941059608509
Handy-Hardware
interner Speicher 32 GB
SD-Kartenformat microSD
Arbeitsspeicher 2.000 MB
Handy-Display
Displaygröße 13,84 cm (5,45")
Displayauflösung HD+ (1440x720 Pixel)
Besonderheiten 18:9 Format
Handy-Kamera
Hauptkamera 13 Megapixel , f/2.2
Handy-Frontkamera
Frontkamera 5 Megapixel
Handy-SIM
  Dual-SIM , Nano + Nano
Sim-Lock nein
Betriebssystem und Merkmale
  Blau
Betriebssystem Android 8.0 Oreo
Mobilfunknetze und Frequenzen
4G/LTE-Advanced [ticked] (?)
3G Frequenzen 850, 900, 1.900, 2.100 MHz
2G Frequenzen (GSM) 900, 1.800, 1.900 MHz
Konnektivität und Sensoren
Ladeanschluss Micro-B USB 2.0
Kopfhöreranschluss 3,5mm Klinkenanschluss
Bluetooth 4.2
WLAN [ticked]
Fingerprint-Sensor [ticked]
Gesichtserkennung [ticked]
GPS Standortbestimmung [ticked]
Handy-Akku
Akku-Kapazität 3.000 mAh
Handy-Lieferumfang
Lade- und Datenkabel
Garantie
Garantie 2 Jahre Gewährleistung

Quote from: kalos on September 14, 2018, 05:35 PM

Quote from: kalos on August 22, 2018, 03:11 PM

What are the top 3-5 cheapest mobiles with NFC and >5000mah?
Any idea?

Any suggestion for the best phone with longest battery and NFC?

Any updates on the above?

There probably has been, tell us what you found.

Or to put it another way:

Looking for a phone with:

• NFC (objective)
• Cheap (subjective)
• Long battery life (subjective)

Search for phones that have a long battery life:

1. eliminate those that don't have a minimum that you're happy with when subjected to your usage pattern,
2. eliminate those that don't have NFC,
3. eliminate those that exceed your price limit,
4. take into account all the other factors of concern to yourself and deliberate on the remainder.

@tomos: Something you might want to consider also is if he travels outside the EU, in this case a dual SIM phone comes in handy - you can keep your normal SIM in for receiving calls/SMS and pick up a cheap local SIM for data and/or calls.

My data SIM changes every month or so as cheap deals come up, (normal SIM provider isn't as good for data but they have the best national/roaming coverage).

Granted I am not a heavy user by any stretch of the imagination, but I usually get 3-5 days out of a charge on the Pixel 3 I picked up back in December.