Author Topic: Forum Upgraded August 30, 2015 - Report issues here (Read 378,846 times)

KynloStephen66515 · « **Reply #125 on:** September 01, 2015, 07:24 AM »

Quote from: phitsc on September 01, 2015, 06:19 AM

Quote from: ewemoa on September 01, 2015, 01:51 AM
Quote from: phitsc on August 31, 2015, 08:41 PM
Concerning the translate box: harmless, yes, a distraction non the less.

For Firefox, the Remove It Permanently add-on seems to work toward this end.

For Chrome, I tried Page Eraser, but didn't figure out how to get it to work across an entire site.

Just tried Stylebot with some success -- right click on element, choose 'Stylebot', choose 'Style Element', look for the 'Layout & Visibility' section, and click on the 'Hide' button. Not ideal perhaps and may not work specific elements only, but at least it can hide the 'Translate' pop-up...

Don't know about other browsers / platforms.

Thanks for the suggestions ewemoa!

Nevertheless, @mouser, I would prefer '-translate', if it's easy to do.

I assume you use AbBlockPro (Assuming cause...well...I don't know anybody that doesn't) - if so, click the icon, click "block element" then click the translate box (and anything else you wanna hide) - they are now gone

phitsc · « **Reply #126 on:** September 01, 2015, 07:41 AM »

Quote from: Stephen66515 on September 01, 2015, 07:24 AM

Quote from: phitsc on September 01, 2015, 06:19 AM
Nevertheless, @mouser, I would prefer '-translate', if it's easy to do.
I assume you use AbBlockPro (Assuming cause...well...I don't know anybody that doesn't) - if so, click the icon, click "block element" then click the translate box (and anything else you wanna hide) - they are now gone

I don't. But works with uBlock Origin just as well. Thanks

anandcoral · « **Reply #127 on:** September 01, 2015, 07:42 AM »

Hmm...looks like the points I mentioned got lost in between. It happens in exitement.

Here is the link and hope some replies on them http://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=41514.msg387883#msg387883

Regards,

Anand

mouser · « **Reply #128 on:** September 01, 2015, 07:46 AM »

Hi Anand.

Indeed i missed your post initially, but then replied to it here: http://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=41514.msg387914#msg387914

mouser · « **Reply #129 on:** September 01, 2015, 07:47 AM »

Quote from: Ath on September 01, 2015, 06:51 AM

I can't recognize the links that I've read from the ones I haven't read; On old DC the link-color changed after visiting he link, but on DC2 the link color stays exactly the same This may be due to the color-scheme in the theme, I can't tell, but it is a nuisance

ah thanks for pointing that out.
i have attempted to fix it -- let me know if i did ok. you may have to F5 on a page to get it to load the new css file. The color difference between visited and non-visited links is subtle, but it's there.

dr_andus · « **Reply #130 on:** September 01, 2015, 08:50 AM »

Quote from: dr_andus on August 31, 2015, 02:22 PM

Another more general point: the first thing I do when I visit the forum is scroll down to the very bottom to see what's latest in the "Info Center - Active Topics" section. I don't know how many other forum users do that, but if a lot or most of them, then from a usability point of view it might be better to have that section at the very top, so there is no need for all that scrolling. Just a suggestion.

Quote from: mouser on August 31, 2015, 02:24 PM

You are the 2nd person who has told me that's how you read the forum. I had no idea people did this.

Quote from: rjbull on August 31, 2015, 09:57 PM

The first things I do on login in is look at the bottom of the home page to see the recent Active Topics

That makes 3 of us now...

anandcoral · « **Reply #131 on:** September 01, 2015, 09:13 AM »

Quote from: dr_andus on September 01, 2015, 08:50 AM

Quote from: dr_andus on August 31, 2015, 02:22 PM
Another more general point: the first thing I do when I visit the forum is scroll down to the very bottom to see what's latest in the "Info Center - Active Topics" section. I don't know how many other forum users do that, but if a lot or most of them, then from a usability point of view it might be better to have that section at the very top, so there is no need for all that scrolling. Just a suggestion.

Quote from: mouser on August 31, 2015, 02:24 PM
You are the 2nd person who has told me that's how you read the forum. I had no idea people did this.

Quote from: rjbull on August 31, 2015, 09:57 PM
The first things I do on login in is look at the bottom of the home page to see the recent Active Topics

That makes 3 of us now...

me too.

mouser · « **Reply #132 on:** September 01, 2015, 09:17 AM »

Ok for all you Info Center addicts: that section is good now yeah?

TaoPhoenix · « **Reply #133 on:** September 01, 2015, 09:58 AM »

Quote from: mouser on September 01, 2015, 07:47 AM

Quote from: Ath on September 01, 2015, 06:51 AM
I can't recognize the links that I've read from the ones I haven't read; On old DC the link-color changed after visiting he link, but on DC2 the link color stays exactly the same This may be due to the color-scheme in the theme, I can't tell, but it is a nuisance

ah thanks for pointing that out.
i have attempted to fix it -- let me know if i did ok. you may have to F5 on a page to get it to load the new css file. The color difference between visited and non-visited links is subtle, but it's there.

I really don't think it is, not always. So it's not clear under what circumstances it isn't. I'm on Pale Moon and not exactly what all security settings I have going on, if some of those matter etc.

TaoPhoenix · « **Reply #134 on:** September 01, 2015, 09:59 AM »

Quote from: anandcoral on September 01, 2015, 09:13 AM

Quote from: dr_andus on September 01, 2015, 08:50 AM
Quote from: dr_andus on August 31, 2015, 02:22 PM
Another more general point: the first thing I do when I visit the forum is scroll down to the very bottom to see what's latest in the "Info Center - Active Topics" section. I don't know how many other forum users do that, but if a lot or most of them, then from a usability point of view it might be better to have that section at the very top, so there is no need for all that scrolling. Just a suggestion.

Quote from: mouser on August 31, 2015, 02:24 PM
You are the 2nd person who has told me that's how you read the forum. I had no idea people did this.

Quote from: rjbull on August 31, 2015, 09:57 PM
The first things I do on login in is look at the bottom of the home page to see the recent Active Topics

That makes 3 of us now...

me too.

Blame me for starting this whole wagon train!

4wd · « **Reply #135 on:** September 01, 2015, 11:21 AM »

Quote from: TaoPhoenix on September 01, 2015, 09:59 AM

Quote from: anandcoral on September 01, 2015, 09:13 AM
Quote from: dr_andus on September 01, 2015, 08:50 AM
Quote from: dr_andus on August 31, 2015, 02:22 PM
Another more general point: the first thing I do when I visit the forum is scroll down to the very bottom to see what's latest in the "Info Center - Active Topics" section. I don't know how many other forum users do that, but if a lot or most of them, then from a usability point of view it might be better to have that section at the very top, so there is no need for all that scrolling. Just a suggestion.

Quote from: mouser on August 31, 2015, 02:24 PM
You are the 2nd person who has told me that's how you read the forum. I had no idea people did this.

Quote from: rjbull on August 31, 2015, 09:57 PM
The first things I do on login in is look at the bottom of the home page to see the recent Active Topics

That makes 3 of us now...

me too.

Blame me for starting this whole wagon train!

Well then pardner, allow me to also hitch my wagon up.

wraith808 · « **Reply #136 on:** September 01, 2015, 11:39 AM »

Quote from: mouser on September 01, 2015, 09:17 AM

Ok for all you Info Center addicts: that section is good now yeah?

What is this "Info Center"?

mouser · « **Reply #137 on:** September 01, 2015, 02:19 PM »

They are talking about the "Active Topics" list on the bottom of the main forum page (board index page): http://www.donationcoder.com/forum

Is it working as it should for everyone now? If not, how so?

TaoPhoenix · « **Reply #138 on:** September 01, 2015, 02:22 PM »

Quote from: wraith808 on September 01, 2015, 11:39 AM

What is this "Info Center"?

I forget if it had a different name last week, but I've called it the "thread aggregator". It's that box at the bottom of the main forum page that collects the top ten *different threads* and bumps them up to the top in the order a post hits (and pretty fast, within seconds.)

Mouser was surprised because he had his own ways of doing things and "just put it there whenever he did it way back", and had no idea how useful it was. To me it's a perfect compromise of exactly the right info density because it's *threads* and not *posts* so let's say this Forum Upgraded thread has lots of stuff going on, it only occupies one slot and for example I can see instantly that if I aka Tao posted earlier, and now it's bumped with Wraith, well, hey, go look!

But for example the Animal Threads thread hasn't done anything since 1AM so if you already looked there, you know you're up to date. And because it's *different* threads, it's kinda rare that *eleven or more* threads get hit and you "might risk missing something".

(It's also why I ignore Mouserbot in the chat, because you just park a tab there on the front page and watch something to get bumped, so I for one don't need extra lines "cluttering" my chat flow.)

And Mouser has suggested an alternate page with even more stuff, but somehow that extra page "blows my info capacity fuse" and I can't look at it often.

TaoPhoenix · « **Reply #139 on:** September 01, 2015, 02:23 PM »

Quote from: mouser on September 01, 2015, 02:19 PM

They are talking about the "Active Topics" list on the bottom of the main forum page (board index page): http://www.donationcoder.com/forum

Is it working as it should for everyone now? If not, how so?

Well, someone was saying the links should change color if you read them, except they don't at least in my case.

mouser · « **Reply #140 on:** September 01, 2015, 02:29 PM »

The links should be changing colors as you visit them, but:

The color difference is subtle.
You may have to hit F5 to reload the css on the page to see the changes.

TaoPhoenix · « **Reply #141 on:** September 01, 2015, 02:57 PM »

Quote from: mouser on September 01, 2015, 02:29 PM

The links should be changing colors as you visit them, but:
The color difference is subtle.
You may have to hit F5 to reload the css on the page to see the changes.

I see it on IE8 but not on Pale Moon or FF Dev Edition.

dr_andus · « **Reply #142 on:** September 01, 2015, 03:29 PM »

Quote from: TaoPhoenix on September 01, 2015, 02:22 PM

To me it's a perfect compromise of exactly the right info density because it's *threads* and not *posts* so let's say this Forum Upgraded thread has lots of stuff going on, it only occupies one slot and for example I can see instantly that if I aka Tao posted earlier, and now it's bumped with Wraith, well, hey, go look!

But for example the Animal Threads thread hasn't done anything since 1AM so if you already looked there, you know you're up to date. And because it's *different* threads, it's kinda rare that *eleven or more* threads get hit and you "might risk missing something".

...

And Mouser has suggested an alternate page with even more stuff, but somehow that extra page "blows my info capacity fuse" and I can't look at it often.

Very well explained. This is exactly why I like the Info Center as well.

mouser · « **Reply #143 on:** September 01, 2015, 03:36 PM »

Is it really better than the recent topics page: http://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?action=rtopics
Do you want me to create a new standalone page similar to the list on the main page, but with more entries (or larger font)?

tomos · « **Reply #144 on:** September 01, 2015, 03:58 PM »

Quote from: TaoPhoenix on September 01, 2015, 02:57 PM

Quote from: mouser on September 01, 2015, 02:29 PM
The links should be changing colors as you visit them, but:
The color difference is subtle.
You may have to hit F5 to reload the css on the page to see the changes.

I see it on IE8 but not on Pale Moon or FF Dev Edition.

dont know if it's been changed since - but it's working here in PaleMoon

dr_andus · « **Reply #145 on:** September 01, 2015, 04:03 PM »

Quote from: TaoPhoenix on September 01, 2015, 02:22 PM

And Mouser has suggested an alternate page with even more stuff, but somehow that extra page "blows my info capacity fuse" and I can't look at it often.

Quote from: mouser on September 01, 2015, 03:36 PM

Is it really better than the recent topics page: http://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?action=rtopics
Do you want me to create a new standalone page similar to the list on the main page, but with more entries (or larger font)?

As Tao said above, the recent topics page ends up being a bit too much to take in in one glance. The beauty of the Info Center is that it's small and concise, so a quick look gives an idea of the amount of activity that had taken place and whether there is anything worth checking out further.

The current layout already requires a lot less scrolling, so that's an improvement. Personally I'd just prefer the box at the very top, so landing on the main page immediately tells the visitor what's been happening, without the need to scroll or click on another page.

TaoPhoenix · « **Reply #146 on:** September 01, 2015, 04:40 PM »

Quote from: tomos on September 01, 2015, 03:58 PM

Quote from: TaoPhoenix on September 01, 2015, 02:57 PM
Quote from: mouser on September 01, 2015, 02:29 PM
The links should be changing colors as you visit them, but:
The color difference is subtle.
You may have to hit F5 to reload the css on the page to see the changes.

I see it on IE8 but not on Pale Moon or FF Dev Edition.

dont know if it's been changed since - but it's working here in PaleMoon

Well, still not for me. But then it's not a big deal for me and I'm not above it being another quirk of my system. (Ask Skwire! ) But I'd think I can't be the only one it's not doing that for, maybe it's some combo of turning off history or something with the AwesomeBar or who knows what else.

wraith808 · « **Reply #147 on:** September 01, 2015, 04:43 PM »

Quote from: dr_andus on September 01, 2015, 04:03 PM

Quote from: TaoPhoenix on September 01, 2015, 02:22 PM
And Mouser has suggested an alternate page with even more stuff, but somehow that extra page "blows my info capacity fuse" and I can't look at it often.

Quote from: mouser on September 01, 2015, 03:36 PM
Is it really better than the recent topics page: http://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?action=rtopics
Do you want me to create a new standalone page similar to the list on the main page, but with more entries (or larger font)?

As Tao said above, the recent topics page ends up being a bit too much to take in in one glance. The beauty of the Info Center is that it's small and concise, so a quick look gives an idea of the amount of activity that had taken place and whether there is anything worth checking out further.

The current layout already requires a lot less scrolling, so that's an improvement. Personally I'd just prefer the box at the very top, so landing on the main page immediately tells the visitor what's been happening, without the need to scroll or click on another page.

Perhaps if the collapse could be remembered on the info center, it wouldn't matter to people that don't use it that it's there.

anandcoral · « **Reply #148 on:** September 01, 2015, 04:44 PM »

Quote from: mouser on August 31, 2015, 05:01 PM

Quote
2. The guest image, if temporary then ok, else I will suggest some blank face type image there.
im happy to get a replacement!

These and similar I use for staff / user photo place holder in my apps. See if they can change the current big smiley, as it does not indicate that it is the guest image. The images are as an idea and can be reduced or similar small image used.

Further if I press Enter after user name in Forum, then it asks for password but shows 259200 minutes to stay connected. I think it is six months converted to minutes, but looks, well...too mathematical.

BTW inserting attachment is big hurrah now

Regards,

Anand

mouser · « **Reply #149 on:** September 01, 2015, 06:00 PM »

Quote from: dr_andus on September 01, 2015, 04:03 PM

Personally I'd just prefer the box at the very top, so landing on the main page immediately tells the visitor what's been happening, without the need to scroll or click on another page.

go to the new custom options line in your Forum Profile area and add:
-topinfocenter