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Topic: TreeDBNotes Pro - Christmas and New Year Discount: 50% (Read 25,529 times)
I ran into a deadly bug that severely damaged the structure of the tree! [...] So I cannot recommend this program!What was their response when you reported the bug?
InfoQube - looks like it has new limited calendar
http://www.sqlnotes.net/drupal5/index.php?q=node/1215
TreeDBNotes
Anybody see the calendar?
not that little history thing?
I ran into a deadly bug that severely damaged the structure of the tree! [...] So I cannot recommend this program!What was their response when you reported the bug?
Ugh. That gives me no confidence in the program. One for shelfware at best. Are they a one-man-band on a hobby project that didn't generate enough income to warrant, or enable, support?None. [...]I ran into a deadly bug that severely damaged the structure of the tree! [...] So I cannot recommend this program!What was their response when you reported the bug?
It seems that the program lacks a calendar, keeping it out of the possibility of being the elusive note program that functions as a full PIM.Astonsoft's EssentialPIM (EPIM) didn't float your boat? I'm wondering whether it's now more future-proof and versatile than some others, because Astonsoft offer not only standard and portable versions for the PC, including free versions, but compatible versions for Android and iOS. Given the popularity of smartphones and tablets, that looks a sound move.
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Or do you have to go to an Outlook-style PIM or a Calendar program to try to get that?
Even though these are all weak on notes and/or database.
Dormouse, I'm particularly interested in chatting with you a bit to see what it's doing for you, and I'm fascinated if you could peek at MyInfo because it became my "replacement winner" once TreeDB self destructed both structurally and with the forum. I found it to be surprisingly close and I think it could be a replacement for you, with a better overall experience if you, as you say, "just use it for writing".
Also the MyInfo dev also responds by email for specific questions, and according to my email, he just posted a new update on Dec 11. (Modest bugfix update, but apparently it can also now auto-lookup new versions...)
Ugh. That gives me no confidence in the program. One for shelfware at best. Are they a one-man-band on a hobby project that didn't generate enough income to warrant, or enable, support?None. [...]I ran into a deadly bug that severely damaged the structure of the tree! [...] So I cannot recommend this program!What was their response when you reported the bug?
Dormouse, I'm particularly interested in chatting with you a bit to see what it's doing for you, and I'm fascinated if you could peek at MyInfo because it became my "replacement winner" once TreeDB self destructed both structurally and with the forum. I found it to be surprisingly close and I think it could be a replacement for you, with a better overall experience if you, as you say, "just use it for writing".
Also the MyInfo dev also responds by email for specific questions, and according to my email, he just posted a new update on Dec 11. (Modest bugfix update, but apparently it can also now auto-lookup new versions...)
Hi,
I briefly trialled MyInfo some time ago (6.17) and didn't take to it. I'll have another look when 7 eventually comes out, but I don't think it is likely to offer an environment that is comfortable for me to work in. Features and functionality are good, but I find, for writing, that comfort in the "environment" makes the most difference to productivity.
What I like about TreeDBNotes for writing is the very full toolbar (I have all options open - and the styles at the bottom), the extensive right click menu, and the ability to write/edit in a pop out without all the PIM clutter. This gives it a strong multipurpose value for me.
I have a very extensive collection of programs I use for writing - on all platforms. None are remotely ideal, and I tend to use the one that is best suited to the task and situation at the time. And I don't see much development anywhere.
Then the warning bells went off when they didn't just "freeze" the forum, but *nuked it* and replaced it with this blind suspicious form that doesn't get answered.
But this big switch to a form that basically goes nowhere, was beyond a ref flag, it was like dumping a bucket of red paint on the bull, because there might not be anyone at all doing support, and some cheap marketing outfit might have a legacy program and is trying to squeeze a few more nickels out of new ... uh ... people.
So though I used to like them, if you then change owners and but the best plasma cannon Star Trek credits can buy and point it at your face, then ... well ... I have to pick a new program!
Then the warning bells went off when they didn't just "freeze" the forum, but *nuked it* and replaced it with this blind suspicious form that doesn't get answered.
But this big switch to a form that basically goes nowhere, was beyond a ref flag, it was like dumping a bucket of red paint on the bull, because there might not be anyone at all doing support, and some cheap marketing outfit might have a legacy program and is trying to squeeze a few more nickels out of new ... uh ... people.
A lot of "mights"So though I used to like them, if you then change owners and but the best plasma cannon Star Trek credits can buy and point it at your face, then ... well ... I have to pick a new program!
And an "if".
I've no idea what happened, or whether it has changed hands, and never really expected to see another update - but there have been a few.
My impression was that the forum was closed because of all the criticism about the lack of development. I've noticed a few authors do that. When the forum becomes toxic then it usually doesn't last unless they delete threads and/or ban particular posters.
It happened at the same time a number of similar programs seemed to go into meltdown, so I assume sales went through the floor and didn't justify further investment of time. Ultra Recall announced no further development, but then did get updated.
And my impression was that support was always a bit limited although there was a certain amount of responsiveness in the forum.
I want to warn you that the bug I ran into, was that suppose you make a note element in your writing, then you decide to move some of them around. TreeDB wasn't keeping the moved new structure, and instead dropping semi-random nodes back where they started, so just when you thought you had a new structure, it ends up a garbled mess!
As someone with some little experience of the outsourcing sites, I have *zero* respect for "black walls of silence". You can hire people for *$2 per hour* to just "say things" and do a "few other things". (Like copy and paste support questions into a file and give them back one of seven canned responses from their script). So even a "useless" reply would have at least sent the signal that someone was behind the wheel. Instead, we get the guy here who wants a new sale. *That's the disconnect*.
As someone with some little experience of the outsourcing sites, I have *zero* respect for "black walls of silence". You can hire people for *$2 per hour* to just "say things" and do a "few other things". (Like copy and paste support questions into a file and give them back one of seven canned responses from their script). So even a "useless" reply would have at least sent the signal that someone was behind the wheel. Instead, we get the guy here who wants a new sale. *That's the disconnect*.
I don't disagree, but then I have bought programs that were entirely defunct. If a program does what I want, I will use it and if it is the only one that does it the way I want if, I will go with it. Obviously for anything critical that I will rely on, I want rock solid support (not sure where we can be sure of getting that now) or get out methods, alternatives and backups. And preferably all of them.
I like using TreeDB myself, but I do find it hard to recommend to anyone else given the opacity of the situation.
What I like about TreeDBNotes for writing is the very full toolbar (I have all options open - and the styles at the bottom), the extensive right click menu, and the ability to write/edit in a pop out without all the PIM clutter.I'm wondering whether at heart you'd prefer a single-pane outliner, if you could find one you liked? Inspiration, perhaps?
What I like about TreeDBNotes for writing is the very full toolbar (I have all options open - and the styles at the bottom), the extensive right click menu, and the ability to write/edit in a pop out without all the PIM clutter.I'm wondering whether at heart you'd prefer a single-pane outliner, if you could find one you liked? Inspiration, perhaps?
It may seem odd, but I have never really got on with any single pane outliner - though I do have Outline 4d (a very particular type of program which again seems to have escaped development in the recent aeon).Since single-pane outlining became a more common feature of word processors, there doesn't seem to have been much development in free-standing ones. Pity.
Had a quick look at Inspiration. Seems most like a mindmapper with an outline view to me.It did fairly well in John Buckman's very old round-up of outliners, but times have moved on...
I tend to find the rigid structures far too limiting and they never work with anything I'm doing. I seem to be able to do any number of things in TreeDB at the same time which is what I usually need.You must have a complex mind to deal with complex needs
I'm wondering whether at heart you'd prefer a single-pane outliner, if you could find one you liked? Inspiration, perhaps?
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