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Tuxman

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AdGuard: the better Ad Muncher?
« on: July 29, 2014, 10:24 PM »
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App NameAdGuard
App URLhttp://adguard.com
App Version Reviewed5.9
Supported OSesMicrosoft Windows up to 8.1 (currently)
Support MethodsThey seem to prefer their support ticket system.
Upgrade PolicyLicensing works per year, independently of the version numbers.
Trial Version Available?Yes, it is. The (unrestricted) trial period lasts only two weeks though.
Pricing Scheme1 year: 19.95 US-$
2 years: 29.95 US-$
Unlimited: 49.95 US-$

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Intro:

As Ad Muncher 5 (about to be free or something) is heavily discussed all around teh interwebz, people might forget about the alternatives. I'm not talking about Adblock Plus or Adblock Edge, there's more; be it GlimmerBlocker on OS X, be it the free but failing AdFender, be it AdGuard. All of them share one goal: Blocking advertisements and (optionally) other annoying stuff without browser-side restrictions.

Why I think you should use this product

In opposite to ad blocking add-ons for browsers, AdGuard works as a transparent proxy. Browser add-ons usually hog the system, transparent proxies don't. - Also, some of you might use more than one browser (or HTML-capable mail clients), so you'd have to install a pretty decent amount of extra software. Install, fire and forget, never see any ads again. You don't trust Adblock Plus/Edge? Use AdGuard!

(Admittedly, some of them might still come through; you can easily report them though.)

How does it compare to similar apps

Ah, my favorite section in this case:

In comparison to Ad Muncher (at least v4), AdGuard has a better looking multi-language GUI, HTTPS support, a more reliable browser overlay and a larger feature set, including "internet security" (blocks malicious websites).

In comparison to AdFender, AdGuard's built-in filters seem to work much better, AdFender failed to filter the majority of ads for me (regardless of the fact that it's freeware).

In comparison to Adblock Plus/Edge, AdGuard happily ignores which web browser you're using.

Conclusions

AdGuard is a nice ad blocker which definitely needs more attention. If there is one thing to complain, it's its license. No freeware! - Still, let's see how it'll perform compared to Ad Muncher 5 one it's released.
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Re: AdGuard: the better Ad Muncher?
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2014, 04:12 AM »
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Still, let's see how it'll perform compared to Ad Muncher 5 one it's released.

I wouldn’t hold my breath for Ad Muncher 5.0. There has not been any reported progress on that for quite some time, and they first announced it back in 2005 (or possible earlier!). That's NINE years now of talking about how great their next major update will be. NINE years! I give up. I'll give AdGuard a try.

Thanks for the review.

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Re: AdGuard: the better Ad Muncher?
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2014, 10:31 AM »
They announced AM5 to be released this Summer. Looks like winter now.
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Re: AdGuard: the better Ad Muncher?
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2014, 11:35 AM »
They announced AM5 to be released this Summer. Looks like winter now.

Actually, Jeff made it quite clear on their forums they only announced the release of the FREE version of ad muncher this year, not Ad Muncher 5.

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Re: AdGuard: the better Ad Muncher?
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2014, 11:38 AM »
It sounded quite different in Murray's blog.
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Re: AdGuard: the better Ad Muncher?
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2014, 11:42 AM »
It sounded quite different in Murray's blog.

Notice, Murray posted on his blog that they hoped to release whatever product he was talking about by the end of July. Jeff didn't bother replying to the month long topic until the 29th leaving users to create more speculation about these vague announcements.

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Re: AdGuard: the better Ad Muncher?
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2014, 11:44 AM »
And in 2011, 2012, and 2013 Jeff stated that V.5 would be out by the end of the year. Still waiting...

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Re: AdGuard: the better Ad Muncher?
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2014, 11:49 AM »
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Re: AdGuard: the better Ad Muncher?
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2014, 12:31 PM »
He's working on HTTP (without S) support... wow. No, wait. Wow! I feel sorry for anyone who is still investing money on that software...

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Re: AdGuard: the better Ad Muncher?
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2014, 05:03 PM »
On one hand it is annoying that AM does not filter https, on the other hand from what I understand, AdGuard does it by installing its own certificate and doing a man in the middle on all your https connections, and I don't know how I feel about that.
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Re: AdGuard: the better Ad Muncher?
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2014, 07:19 PM »
On one hand it is annoying that AM does not filter https, on the other hand from what I understand, AdGuard does it by installing its own certificate and doing a man in the middle on all your https connections, and I don't know how I feel about that.

I believe that's the only way to do it via a proxy.  The only other option would be to do it inside the browser.

Either way you're giving the ad removal software the ability to deal with data that is ostensibly private, so you have to give that software some measure of trust if you want it to remove ads from HTTPS connections.  I'm not sure sure which method might make things more vulnerable to other malicious software that might want to exploit the ad removal software's position of trust. 

My gut feeling is that it's the proxy with the MITM certificate, but that's just a feeling.

Does anyone know if AdGuard allows you to disable this behavior of proxying HTTPS traffic?  I'm currently using Ad Muncher and I don't have any complaints about HTTPS connections having too many ads.  However, I think I'm seeing the writing on the wall for AM, so I figure that I'll be moving to something else at some point and I'd rather that my HTTPS traffic just be left alone since I'm not seeing a problem with it.

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Re: AdGuard: the better Ad Muncher?
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2014, 07:23 PM »
Yes, AdGuard needs to intercept HTTPS, that's why using the Android version is a bit dangerous...
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Re: AdGuard: the better Ad Muncher?
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2014, 07:50 PM »
It is the same way MiTM is conducted on firewall appliances like Palo Alto or A10's thunder series. You have to do some form of MiTM to sniff SSL traffic.
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Re: AdGuard: the better Ad Muncher?
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2014, 02:13 AM »
I understand, AdGuard does it by installing its own certificate and doing a man in the middle on all your https connections, and I don't know how I feel about that.

This.

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Re: AdGuard: the better Ad Muncher?
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2014, 02:22 AM »
YouTube's ads alone have me wanting some sort of https ad control.

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Re: AdGuard: the better Ad Muncher?
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2014, 06:52 AM »
Does anyone know if AdGuard allows you to disable this behavior of proxying HTTPS traffic?  I'm currently using Ad Muncher and I don't have any complaints about HTTPS connections having too many ads.  However, I think I'm seeing the writing on the wall for AM, so I figure that I'll be moving to something else at some point and I'd rather that my HTTPS traffic just be left alone since I'm not seeing a problem with it.

It looks like 5.10 added support for disabling https filtering on specific sites, I don't know if there is a way to disable it for all.

YouTube's ads alone have me wanting some sort of https ad control.

I've never had YouTube ads here, and I don't really know why. I don't have an ad-blocker inside Chrome (other than Ghostery) -- perhaps it is because I am loggen in on YouTube?

Now Facebook on the other hand ... :wallbash:
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Re: AdGuard: the better Ad Muncher?
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2014, 09:51 AM »
I've never had YouTube ads here, and I don't really know why. I don't have an ad-blocker inside Chrome (other than Ghostery) -- perhaps it is because I am loggen in on YouTube?

Now Facebook on the other hand ... :wallbash:

Now if you are logged in to YouTube the ads are unbelievable. on the page, within the videos. Nearly unbearable.

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Re: AdGuard: the better Ad Muncher?
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2015, 03:35 PM »
Hm.. wonder if AdGuard respects your privacy.

Would be nice if someone knowledgeable would do a packet sniffing/inspection to see if your information (web habits/email/ssl data etc.) is sent back to Adguard or not.

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Re: AdGuard: the better Ad Muncher?
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2015, 03:37 PM »
Depends. AdGuard's "extras" like WOT and malware scans need to exchange a lot of data; so does the automatic regional filter list update.
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Re: AdGuard: the better Ad Muncher?
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2015, 11:25 PM »
The developer of Ad Muncher has no money to spend on developing the new version. So, its not going to come out.

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Re: AdGuard: the better Ad Muncher?
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2015, 11:31 PM »
Interesting things (actually, those are 2 devs AFAIK) happen when you decide to give away your things for free.
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« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2015, 11:36 PM »
Interesting things (actually, those are 2 devs AFAIK) happen when you decide to give away your things for free.

Only one actually. The other guy is the filter list maintainer.

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Re: AdGuard: the better Ad Muncher?
« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2015, 04:13 AM »
The developer of Ad Muncher has no money to spend on developing the new version. So, its not going to come out.

Is this a fact? Or just supposition? Is there an announcement about this?

Thank you.

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Re: AdGuard: the better Ad Muncher?
« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2015, 04:18 AM »
The developer of Ad Muncher has no money to spend on developing the new version. So, its not going to come out.

Is this a fact? Or just supposition? Is there an announcement about this?

Thank you.

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It's a fact. I learned about it by asking Jeff about v5's progress via its IRC channel.

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Re: AdGuard: the better Ad Muncher?
« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2015, 04:20 AM »
Thanks. Damn, they should finally announce that and make it official. One of the poorest handlings of a software's abandonment I've experienced.

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