Author Topic: Sci-fi novel now available from DC member kyrathaba! (Read 650,928 times)

kyrathaba · « **Reply #375 on:** July 04, 2013, 04:58 PM »

Greats finds/catches/suggested fixes, guys. Your help is invaluable! I wouldn't even consider publishing this without the solid proofing you guys are providing. When the novel is brought to a cliffhanger ending, mouser has volunteered to read it cover to the cover (so to speak), as an additional set of beta-eyes.

tomos · « **Reply #376 on:** July 04, 2013, 05:18 PM »

Quote from: 4wd on July 04, 2013, 04:24 PM

Quote from: tomos on July 04, 2013, 10:33 AM
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Acquisition and reallocation of materiele.
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=> should that be "materials" ? or is he Dutch

With that particular instance I was of the mind that Sethra was throwing in a bit of foreign language to make it sound more exotic, hence the italics. The way some people will throw in the odd word like faux, instead of using just boring old 'fake' - they think it sounds a bit upper class. (Usually has the opposite effect though.)

Ah okay, I'm reading from the current link which is plain text with no indication of formatting.

kyrathaba · « **Reply #377 on:** July 04, 2013, 10:51 PM »

Okay, I've completed Chapters 20, 21, and 22, one apiece over the past three days. And I've transferred them to my tablet for proofreading and caught lots of problems, done quite a bit of rephrasing. Right now, I'm uploading an archive on the total project to three cloud storages, and to DC. I will provide a link to my beta-/proof-readers in the next few minutes. The link will allow you to download the epub and mobi versions of the manuscript as it exists to date, Prologue through end of Chapter 22.

kyrathaba · « **Reply #378 on:** July 04, 2013, 11:04 PM »

PMs sent to Perry, 4wd, tomos. 40hz, you want a download link?

Perry Mowbray · « **Reply #379 on:** July 04, 2013, 11:08 PM »

Quote from: kyrathaba on July 04, 2013, 04:41 PM

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Paragraph 17.3
"We’ve bored another fifty meters along that vector, achieving an increased depth of twenty-five meters." I'm not sure I understand 50 metres at 30 degrees = 25 metres depth?
(see attachment in previous post)
In the above diagram, we see the relationships of the angles and sides in a 30/60/90 degree triangle. Consider the hypotenuse in the image as the downward grade of the borer. The length along that hypotenuse has a 2:1 ratio to the vertical side of the triangle. Thus, 50 meters progress in boring down at a 30 degree angle equals an additional 25 meters in depth.

It's odd how the brain gets into a thinking rut if you take a wrong turn... I'm still not sure why I didn't understand, but try as I might, the penny wouldn't drop. I even started factoring in the width of the tunnel, which only confused the issue more.

kyrathaba · « **Reply #380 on:** July 04, 2013, 11:24 PM »

^ Did my triangle diagram help?

Perry Mowbray · « **Reply #381 on:** July 05, 2013, 12:45 AM »

Quote from: kyrathaba on July 04, 2013, 11:24 PM

^ Did my triangle diagram help?

That's what I mean is odd... yes it did help, but not in terms of understanding (after writing my own CAD software I have a pretty good grasp of trigonometry), but in giving me a step up out of the mental rut my brain had furrowed... I guess everyone's different, but I'm amused that words were not creating the spatial recognition for me

kyrathaba · « **Reply #382 on:** July 05, 2013, 12:55 AM »

I have moments like that, all the time. I think we all do.

Perry Mowbray · « **Reply #383 on:** July 05, 2013, 01:32 AM »

Quote from: kyrathaba on July 05, 2013, 12:55 AM

I have moments like that, all the time. I think we all do.

Brain plasticity is an amazing thing, the lack of it is a bummer

4wd · « **Reply #384 on:** July 05, 2013, 01:59 AM »

On the subject of feedback, do you want us to keep posting here or email you?

I think it's useful for each other to see what each is proposing but you may not want to" give away" any more of the plot in an open forum.

Unless, of course, the sporadic insights serve to have readers lining up at the digital cash register.

mouser · « **Reply #385 on:** July 05, 2013, 02:33 AM »

What's the goal in terms of length? How much more is left to write?

Perry Mowbray · « **Reply #386 on:** July 05, 2013, 02:35 AM »

Quote from: 4wd on July 05, 2013, 01:59 AM

On the subject of feedback, do you want us to keep posting here or email you?

I think it's useful for each other to see what each is proposing but you may not want to" give away" any more of the plot in an open forum.

I definitely appreciate seeing other people's suggestions, and often don't double up.

What about a GDoc or other private collaborative document? That way everyone can see each other's annotations.

kyrathaba · « **Reply #387 on:** July 05, 2013, 03:08 AM »

Here or u guys can collab via gdocs and send me your consensus recommendations.

Mouser, target length, excluding front- and back-matter is 80k+ words. Currently 75% there.

4wd · « **Reply #388 on:** July 05, 2013, 04:08 AM »

Quote from: kyrathaba on July 04, 2013, 04:54 PM

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"in comparison to what the aliens had learned that the natives referred to as North America and Europe." Should that be 'in comparison to what the aliens had learned of what the natives referred to as North America and Europe.'?

Fixed:

This land mass had surprisingly few surviving pockets of humanity, in comparison to what the aliens had learned of what the natives referred to as ‘North America’ and ‘Europe’.

I found the above section rather difficult to comprehend, I knew what you meant but it just didn't read well. So possibly scrambling it around:

In comparison to what the natives referred to as 'North America' and 'Europe', the aliens had discovered that this land mass had surprisingly few surviving pockets of humanity.

Perry Mowbray · « **Reply #389 on:** July 05, 2013, 04:28 AM »

What's the consensus for feedback location?

4wd · « **Reply #390 on:** July 05, 2013, 05:08 AM »

Quote from: Perry Mowbray on July 05, 2013, 04:28 AM

What's the consensus for feedback location?

I'm easy, (so I'm told), I'll even make up a completely new Google login just for the occasion.

Perry Mowbray · « **Reply #391 on:** July 05, 2013, 05:29 AM »

Quote from: 4wd on July 05, 2013, 05:08 AM

Quote from: Perry Mowbray on July 05, 2013, 04:28 AM
What's the consensus for feedback location?

I'm easy, (so I'm told), I'll even make up a completely new Google login just for the occasion.

You're keen for GDoc then?

4wd · « **Reply #392 on:** July 05, 2013, 05:32 AM »

Quote from: Perry Mowbray on July 05, 2013, 05:29 AM

Quote from: 4wd on July 05, 2013, 05:08 AM
Quote from: Perry Mowbray on July 05, 2013, 04:28 AM
What's the consensus for feedback location?

I'm easy, (so I'm told), I'll even make up a completely new Google login just for the occasion.

You're keen for GDoc then?

I've never used it, so I can't say whether I'm keen or not. But I can't imagine it taking me long to come to grips with it.

Perry Mowbray · « **Reply #393 on:** July 05, 2013, 05:35 AM »

Quote from: 4wd on July 05, 2013, 05:32 AM

Quote from: Perry Mowbray on July 05, 2013, 05:29 AM
Quote from: 4wd on July 05, 2013, 05:08 AM
Quote from: Perry Mowbray on July 05, 2013, 04:28 AM
What's the consensus for feedback location?

I'm easy, (so I'm told), I'll even make up a completely new Google login just for the occasion.

You're keen for GDoc then?

I've never used it, so I can't say whether I'm keen or not. But I can't imagine it taking me long to come to grips with it.

PM me your new Google address and I'll send you a link

kyrathaba · « **Reply #394 on:** July 05, 2013, 11:58 AM »

I too haven't used gdocs in a group, but imagine I can pick it up esily enough.

4wd · « **Reply #395 on:** July 05, 2013, 12:22 PM »

Well, at the moment I'd have to say it's a flop since other than reading I'm unable to do anything else.

I'm wondering whether mouser is able to create a, for example, special project sub-forum with access only by members he designates?

Kind of like a slightly enhanced of the My Personal Area one where the members can be nominated by the My Personal Area owner - if you get my drift.

Otherwise, a SVN is probably the way to go.

wraith808 · « **Reply #396 on:** July 05, 2013, 12:32 PM »

Quote from: 4wd on July 05, 2013, 12:22 PM

Well, at the moment I'd have to say it's a flop since other than reading I'm unable to do anything else.

I'm wondering whether mouser is able to create a, for example, special project sub-forum with access only by members he designates?

Kind of like a slightly enhanced of the My Personal Area one where the members can be nominated by the My Personal Area owner - if you get my drift.

Otherwise, a SVN is probably the way to go.

It depends on the settings on the document. When being added, you have to be given the ability to comment. It works very well, and versions.

Perry Mowbray · « **Reply #397 on:** July 05, 2013, 12:34 PM »

I've used Gdocs as a group before and it's great fun... everyone editing at the same time in real time...

It may need some persistence to overcome your reluctance?

kyrathaba · « **Reply #398 on:** July 05, 2013, 12:35 PM »

Perry, have you set it up on Gdocs, and added us with the appropriate permissions? If so, shoot me a link and I'll start taking a look...

Perry Mowbray · « **Reply #399 on:** July 05, 2013, 12:36 PM »

Quote from: wraith808 on July 05, 2013, 12:32 PM

It depends on the settings on the document. When being added, you have to be given the ability to comment. It works very well, and versions.

Actually the settings are to allow:

Editing
Comments
Viewing

Everyone has edit rights...