Quote from: Tinman57 on February 01, 2013, 11:28 PM

  I get the best of all 3 worlds by using Avant Browser which incorporates Chrome, Firefox and IE. 

monitoring, memory leaks, insecurities ?

  Well, it's only as good as the browser engines, though it has stripped out the Chrome spying crap, and the last two versions of Firefox has cured the memory problems.

My biggest problem with Chrome is that I can't escape the feeling that more is going on under the hood than I know about. Mostly in terms of tracking what I'm doing. Maybe it's excessive paranoia on my part. But enough companies (that should know better) have been caught playing those games that I don't think I'm completely crazy being concerned about it.

Tracking my personal browsing is an annoyance that would offend me if I discovered it happened. But I really don't care so much about that. What I do worry about is what may be seen when I access some of my clients' web-based systems. Because I have liability exposure if something leaks or gets compromised because of me.

I use Chromium because it (well, at least the Debian distribution) doesn't have "phone home" stuff nor Google Updater.  I suppose I could use SRWare Iron as well, but I've got a lazy side and Chromium is in the repos.

Chrome vs. Chromium:
https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome
http://blog.chromium.org/2008/10/google-chrome-chromium-and-google.html
https://answers.launchpad.net/chromium-browser/+question/91457

Chrome vs. SRWare Iron:
http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_chrome_vs_iron.php

Chromium for Windows:
http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/chromium-browser-continuous/index.html?path=Win/&sort=desc
Portable:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/crportable/

SRWare Iron:
http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php
For Linux:
http://www.srware.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=6457

I have Opera installed, but hardly ever use it except as a novelty.  Never noticed any glitches, but no kudos either.  Maybe I should do the "immersion test" and make it my default browser for a week and see how it stacks up.

Quote from: Tinman57 on February 01, 2013, 11:28 PM

 I get the best of all 3 worlds by using Avant Browser which incorporates Chrome, Firefox and IE.  

You missed Opera so you actualy get  the worst of the 3 xD

Opera?  Isn't that where the fat lady sings?  

Trying out SRWare Iron, and it's no faster than Chromium.  Then I read this:
http://neugierig.org/software/chromium/notes/2009/12/iron.html

Meh.  Chromium works fine enough.

I think he was referencing the fact that "Iron" in the IRC logs alluded to the fact he was in it for the money; namely ad revenue via (wait for it...) Google adsense he was running on his website.

Very interesting development.  I suppose it was inevitable.

Hm, what is their Raison d'être going to be, then?

And what about their pretty huge datacenter investment that had the purpose of processing websites to serve in the special (binary html ish) format for their mobile browsers? Lost investment?

While I haven't been fond of Opera in the last many years, it's a bit sad that there's one less browser engine out there, one less team to help influence the html spec. One step closer to WebKit being the new iE6?

Too bad if their old HTML engine is going to be discarded. Probably no chance of them open-sourcing it.

Sites like Amazon didn't render or work properly and with pretty much zero interest to correct it. I hate to take the bigger business side of things but with their market share and real standard elements not working/rendering like the rest of (98% or so) the web, this was coming.

My input on the Opera debate: http://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=34016.msg317912#msg317912

Quote from: Stephen66515 on February 13, 2013, 08:46 PM

My input on the Opera debate: http://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=34016.msg317912#msg317912

I read your post. It's not dev's fault when even a simple <div> leaves spaces and other things unlike every other browser, etc. Google various standards like div and others and add 'opera' right after it to your search query

Like I say, I have never had a single broken page.  Closest thing I have had, is with things like Netflix saying "We don't support anything other than Firefox & Chrome & IE"  I mean...I know 1.2% of the market share doesn't sound like much, but put it down to raw numbers, and you are potentially pissing off 300 MILLION+ people!

Quote from: Stephen66515 on February 13, 2013, 09:17 PM

Quote from: rgdot on February 13, 2013, 08:52 PM

Quote from: Stephen66515 on February 13, 2013, 08:46 PM

My input on the Opera debate: http://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=34016.msg317912#msg317912

I read your post. It's not dev's fault when even a simple <div> leaves spaces and other things unlike every other browser, etc. Google various standards like div and others and add 'opera' right after it to your search query

Like I say, I have never had a single broken page.  Closest thing I have had, is with things like Netflix saying "We don't support anything other than Firefox & Chrome & IE"  I mean...I know 1.2% of the market share doesn't sound like much, but put it down to raw numbers, and you are potentially pissing off 300 MILLION+ people!

You must be the minority because I've watched a large number of people have issues similar to what I encountered each time I tried opera.

Maybe so...for me...its pretty much just "Always Worked"

Seems to me that the Softpedia take on the announcement is rather extreme. Opera's engine always used to be fast, but webkit is pretty fast too. Little competitive gain and a lot of cost for Opera in maintaining Presto, and it is in the mobile market that their innovations have had the most success. I'd not be surprised to see Opera using Chromium look very similar to the latest Opera using Presto. Reduces us to webkit, gecko & ie trident.

As a user I'm not sure it will make much difference to me. It's a long time since the engine was one of the reasons I chose Opera as my primary browser. What would make me unhappy would be a takeover by Facebook.

Interesting read:
http://www.glazman.org/weblog/dotclear/index.php?post/2012/02/09/CALL-FOR-ACTION%3A-THE-OPEN-WEB-NEEDS-YOU-NOW