Author Topic: Firefox 14.01 (Read 23,775 times)

MilesAhead · « **on:** July 19, 2012, 08:47 PM »

I was happy running FF 4 but I noticed this article about FF 14.01 sending google searches via https. Not sure how much difference that makes, but you don't have to set anything to do it. It comes that way. I just updated over 4 and my google search does in fact use https to get the goods.

I'm using it now. I just updated a few minutes ago. So far it doesn't seem like I have to do anything. The AddOns that were disabled I don't think I need anyway. FDM I don't need the plug-in. Just drag download to the desktop target. FF is my secondary so that's why I'm less concerned.

The main thing is LastPass works.

So far so good.

edit: Whoops. Forgot to post the Addictive Tips link:

Firefox 14.01

lanux128 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 20, 2012, 05:55 AM »

here's the changelog: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/14.0/releasenotes/

Tuxman · « **Reply #2 on:** July 20, 2012, 08:32 AM »

And Firefox 15 is already in the beta stage.

IIRC Google has been supporting (and optionally defaulting to) HTTPS for a while yet? (I'm on SSL DuckDuckGo anyway.)

MilesAhead · « **Reply #3 on:** July 20, 2012, 09:19 PM »

Quote from: Tuxman on July 20, 2012, 08:32 AM

And Firefox 15 is already in the beta stage.

IIRC Google has been supporting (and optionally defaulting to) HTTPS for a while yet? (I'm on SSL DuckDuckGo anyway.)

I'm using chromium as primary. Guess it has its own settings with macros. To move it to https I had to delete it, add it in the "other" section, then make it default. edit: glad you asked the question. That gave me the impetus to update the settings in chromium.

So far 14.01 feels just like 4. Which is a good thing I guess. It's a shame the author of SyncPlaces has thrown in the towel. That was the only bookmark sync I knew of where you could use your own ftp page for storage, that worked. Fortunately CheckPlaces still works. I can upload from chromium using Xmark sync, then download into FF. Then use CheckPlaces to load the favicons.

http://www.andyhalford.com/

I assume "fish" is euphemism for excrement, or some other unpleasant item(s).

Tuxman · « **Reply #4 on:** July 21, 2012, 05:17 AM »

Quote from: MilesAhead on July 20, 2012, 09:19 PM

then download into FF.

* Fx.

MilesAhead · « **Reply #5 on:** July 21, 2012, 06:05 AM »

Quote from: Tuxman on July 21, 2012, 05:17 AM

Quote from: MilesAhead on July 20, 2012, 09:19 PM
then download into FF.
* Fx.

I don't get your shorthand. Care to translate?

Tuxman · « **Reply #6 on:** July 21, 2012, 06:21 AM »

The preferred abbreviation for Firefox is Fx, Mozilla uses it for extension file names. FF is wrong as there is no second capital F in Firefox.

FF is Final Fantasy.

MilesAhead · « **Reply #7 on:** July 21, 2012, 08:51 PM »

Quote from: Tuxman on July 21, 2012, 06:21 AM

The preferred abbreviation for Firefox is Fx, Mozilla uses it for extension file names. FF is wrong as there is no second capital F in Firefox.

FF is Final Fantasy.

Fx is a channel on cable TV afaic. Hold on a sec. Let me make an error in grammar so you can correct that also.

Um, let's see... Me don't gut no idea what faux pas to make. (Or is faux pas another browser beta not yet announced? )

Tuxman · « **Reply #8 on:** July 21, 2012, 10:34 PM »

Not that I knew of.

MilesAhead · « **Reply #9 on:** July 22, 2012, 12:51 AM »

Quote from: Tuxman on July 21, 2012, 10:34 PM

Not that I knew of.

Hmm, maybe I'll make a shell that uses IE engine. The FauxPas Browser. The jingle will be "Using this browser is a big mistake!!"

Tuxman · « **Reply #10 on:** July 22, 2012, 12:58 PM »

Wouldn't that be irony?

IainB · « **Reply #11 on:** July 22, 2012, 01:24 PM »

FF 15.0 (I'm using the ß channel) also sends google searches via https.

I have been using the EFF's HTTPS Everywhere (FF and Chrome/Chromium) for a while now anyway, so it's a bit belts-and-braces.

EDIT 2012-07-23 0127hrs (NZT): Oops. Forgot to provide this relevant link.
EFF's "HTTPS Everywhere" (Firefox/Chrome add-on) - quick review
(That link also contains a link to HTTPS Finder, which can be a useful adjunct to HTTPS Everywhere.)

40hz · « **Reply #12 on:** July 22, 2012, 01:40 PM »

Quote from: Tuxman on July 21, 2012, 06:21 AM

The preferred abbreviation for Firefox is Fx, Mozilla uses it for extension file names. FF is wrong as there is no second capital F in Firefox.

Yes they do. And hardly anyone cares. Except maybe Mozilla.

FWIW, in the USA "Fx" has been used as the abbreviation for "special effects" in the movie industry for ages, and is what most people here immediately think of when they see it.

"Fx" also is the recognized abbreviation for "foreign exchange" in Canada and the USA. Webster's Dictionary lists it as such too.

"fx" has also been a standard abbreviation for "fracture" on medical reports for many many years. Far longer than there has been a Firefox. Or even an Internet for that matter.

So good luck with that, Mozilla! (At least in North America.)

Tuxman · « **Reply #13 on:** July 22, 2012, 01:49 PM »

FF is the internationally accepted abbreviation for Final Fantasy.

Curt · « **Reply #14 on:** July 22, 2012, 01:53 PM »

Quote from: IainB on July 22, 2012, 01:24 PM

FF 15.0 also sends google searches via https.
I have been using the EFF's HTTPS Everywhere (FF and Chrome/Chromium) for a while now

-I didn't understand this. As far as I know, https is only possible if the site's author has enabled it. So, if a site wants to be malicious, it would of course not support https in the first place. Then what is the point of this "https almost everywhere" feature?
Feel free to explain Https for dummies, please

40hz · « **Reply #15 on:** July 22, 2012, 03:55 PM »

Quote from: Tuxman on July 22, 2012, 01:49 PM

FF is the internationally accepted abbreviation for Final Fantasy.

Over here it's also the generally accepted abbreviation for "fast forward." As well as for: "form feed"; "folios"; "fortissimo"; "fan fiction"; "fun facts" and "the following (lines/pages/etc.)" On Twitter #FF is the hashtag for "followfriday."

Perhaps instead of "universally" it would be more correct to say "among gamers and some in the computer community"?

Tuxman · « **Reply #16 on:** July 22, 2012, 04:43 PM »

People outside the computer "community" won't abbreviate Firefox.

MilesAhead · « **Reply #17 on:** July 22, 2012, 09:32 PM »

The HTTPS Everywhere looks interesting. Are there really 3rd parties sniffing everything you do such as using search engines? I guess I have to read more about why using it is a good idea. If a site is sending stats to some advertiser I don't know if this does any good. But that's because I haven't read up on it yet.

MilesAhead · « **Reply #18 on:** July 22, 2012, 09:57 PM »

Quote from: Tuxman on July 22, 2012, 04:43 PM

People outside the computer "community" won't abbreviate Firefox.

I've never seen it abbreviated as Fx until this thread. But then I don't remember the last time I logged onto my Mozilla account. Browser forums tend to be too dogmatic for me.

I think I'm still considered a son of Beelzebub because I pointed out on the Opera browser forum that clicking the mouse 3 or 4 times in rapid succession to copy some text to clipboard promoted CTS. Don't try to fix it. Just lambaste the messenger. But anyway... I guess anyone who is typing in a browser and posting on a board is part of the "computer community" and I sure see a lot of FF out there referring to FF, er, I mean, Firefox.

Josh · « **Reply #19 on:** July 22, 2012, 10:03 PM »

I've heard of the "Fx" abbreviation only ONCE before this thread. Every person I talk to on IRC, web forums, in person, etc. refer to firefox as either firefox or FF. Mozilla can call it what they want, but the true abbreviation is what the masses use.

MilesAhead · « **Reply #20 on:** July 22, 2012, 10:22 PM »

Quote from: Josh on July 22, 2012, 10:03 PM

I've heard of the "Fx" abbreviation only ONCE before this thread. Every person I talk to on IRC, web forums, in person, etc. refer to firefox as either firefox or FF. Mozilla can call it what they want, but the true abbreviation is what the masses use.

Seems like some attention getting ploy. Like Apple usurping the term "apps" when it's been shorthand for any software program before even Dos existed, and MS usurping "gadget" for some small utilities. That would be fine except then when you use the term normally somebody says it's not a "gadget" unless it conforms to some MS definition(of which I am blissfully ignorant as I de-crappify my PCs as soon as I plug 'em in the first time. Maybe there's one or two worth using but generally I find if something is really good they[by "they" I mean large corporations] try to charge money for it instead of ramming it up where the sun don't shine for free.)

Tuxman · « **Reply #21 on:** July 22, 2012, 11:05 PM »

What should "FF" stand for? There is no product named Fire Fox.

rgdot · « **Reply #22 on:** July 22, 2012, 11:09 PM »

Fat Firefox (RAM usage)

IainB · « **Reply #23 on:** July 23, 2012, 12:14 AM »

Quote from: MilesAhead on July 22, 2012, 09:32 PM

...The HTTPS Everywhere looks interesting. Are there really 3rd parties sniffing everything you do such as using search engines?...

I don't know that for a fact, but have accepted EFF's recommendation as a good way to improve the security against the possibility.
Because the Internet runs along the lines of a highly commercialised model, your Internet traffic data is likely to be mined any which way, whether you like it or not. It's "fair game".

Tuxman · « **Reply #24 on:** July 23, 2012, 12:17 AM »

Quote from: rgdot on July 22, 2012, 11:09 PM

Fat Firefox (RAM usage)

So where is the F in Chrome which eats more RAM than Firefox?