Author Topic: PORTAL 2 AVAILABLE NOW FOR PRE-ORDER (Read 38,783 times)

Josh · « **Reply #25 on:** May 11, 2011, 11:00 PM »

Quote from: Carol Haynes on May 11, 2011, 10:58 PM

Now I need to try Portal 2 in the multiplayer version - unfortunately I am a sad loser and don't have any friends so it is a bit tricky!

You on steam? Add username Metshrine and you will have your very first friend

Shades · « **Reply #26 on:** May 11, 2011, 11:25 PM »

@Carol:
Stamina makes up for experience?

Carol Haynes · « **Reply #27 on:** May 12, 2011, 08:17 AM »

Quote from: Josh on May 11, 2011, 11:00 PM

Quote from: Carol Haynes on May 11, 2011, 10:58 PM
Now I need to try Portal 2 in the multiplayer version - unfortunately I am a sad loser and don't have any friends so it is a bit tricky!

You on steam? Add username Metshrine and you will have your very first friend

How kind - taking pity on the old dear! Will do Josh. Now all we have to do is find a time when we are both online

v(Sorry my id is really boring - carolhaynes. Are nicknames a boy thing? I have never really worked out how to thimk of one?)

I am assuming that folowing my last comments you are neither random nor teenage

Have you played the multiplayer version yet?

Carol Haynes · « **Reply #28 on:** May 12, 2011, 08:21 AM »

Quote from: Shades on May 11, 2011, 11:25 PM

@Carol:
Stamina makes up for experience?

No it doesn't - stamina just makes your muscles hurt more and your teeth fall out (not to mention the grey hairs) when you get older.

Deozaan · « **Reply #29 on:** May 12, 2011, 09:51 AM »

Quote from: Carol Haynes on May 12, 2011, 08:17 AM

How kind - taking pity on the old dear! Will do Josh. Now all we have to do is find a time when we are both online v(Sorry my id is really boring - carolhaynes. Are nicknames a boy thing? I have never really worked out how to thimk of one?)

I added you to my friends list as well as invited you to the DonationCoder group on Steam.

But I don't own Portal 2 so I won't be able to help you out with multiplayer portal puzzle solving.

jgpaiva · « **Reply #30 on:** May 12, 2011, 10:09 PM »

I really want to play this game, but I'm not sure if it runs on my macbook and they haven't released a demo yet

Carol Haynes · « **Reply #31 on:** May 13, 2011, 08:37 AM »

You should buy a proper computer them

Seriously though the Mac spec says:

OS X 10.6.6 or later
Intel duo core (2GHz ore better)
2Gb RAM
Min 7.6Gb hard drive space
Radeon 2400 or nVidia 8600M or better

so if you Macbook betters that spec give it a go. You'll need a two button wheel mouse or game controller though - can't see it being a comfortable experience with a Mac mousepad!

jgpaiva · « **Reply #32 on:** May 13, 2011, 08:55 AM »

Quote from: Carol Haynes on May 13, 2011, 08:37 AM

You should buy a proper computer them

I wish

Quote from: Carol Haynes on May 13, 2011, 08:37 AM

Seriously though the Mac spec says:

From what I understand, my macbook is on the borderline of the minimum requirements, I'm afraid I'll have a bad gaming experience. Meanwhile, if I start to be desperate, I may install windows on the machine and just download a pirate version to see how it runs (given that I don't really have any other option $:-\$ ).

ps: I honestly can't see why they don't release a demo, I can only justify it as a move to force people to buy the full game to know how it runs

Carol Haynes · « **Reply #33 on:** May 13, 2011, 09:20 AM »

You could try registering with Steam and buying Portal 1 from there. It is very cheap (£6 in the UK) and a great game and I can't see why if that works Portal 2 shouldn't - the engine and graphics don't look hugely different to me.

The Windows spec for Portal 2 is marginally lower: ATI Radeon X800, nVidia Geforce 7600 GT or Intel HD Graphics 2000 (alternatively any card with 128Mb memory, DX9 and support for Pixel shader 2.0b)

Lashiec · « **Reply #34 on:** May 13, 2011, 05:40 PM »

I swear DC is teeming with Apple heathens these days (sorry, can't help bugging you a bit :P)

There's a demo for Portal, but its Mac system requirements are significantly higher than those of Portal 2, so you may not even be able to install it, thus not really concluding if your computer can run Portal 2. But I understand the Source engine was greatly optimized in Portal 2 so the game could run well even on integrated graphics chips, provided they're new enough. You should complete the first Portal before playing the second one, anyway :D

Josh · « **Reply #35 on:** May 13, 2011, 05:48 PM »

DO NOT PLAY PORTAL 2 UNTIL YOU PLAY, AND DEFEAT, PORTAL 1. You will gain so much more from the story.

lanux128 · « **Reply #36 on:** May 14, 2011, 01:57 AM »

but.. but.. Gabe claims that "Mac is 5 times more stable than windows running games".

note: oh, btw Carol have added on Steam.

Deozaan · « **Reply #37 on:** May 14, 2011, 04:20 AM »

Quote from: lanux128 on May 14, 2011, 01:57 AM

but.. but.. Gabe claims that "Mac is 5 times more stable than windows running games".

That could be because there is less diverse Mac hardware supported/available. $:-\$

lanux128 · « **Reply #38 on:** May 14, 2011, 04:50 AM »

Quote from: Deozaan on May 14, 2011, 04:20 AM

Quote from: lanux128 on May 14, 2011, 01:57 AM
but.. but.. Gabe claims that "Mac is 5 times more stable than windows running games".

That could be because there is less diverse Mac hardware supported/available. $:-\$

well, the lack of diversity in Mac hardware is obviously obvious and big Gabe is milking it all he can by being sensational.. basically Valve/Steam have identified a big void in Mac gaming and are trying to fill it with their "cross-platform" games.

Carol Haynes · « **Reply #39 on:** May 14, 2011, 11:59 AM »

Quote from: lanux128 on May 14, 2011, 01:57 AM

but.. but.. Gabe claims that "Mac is 5 times more stable than windows running games".

note: oh, btw Carol have added on Steam.

Seems pretty stable on my system - the only time I have probs is if I accidentally press the windows key.

Lanux what's your name on Steam - I don't seem to have received an invite or have you listed?

40hz · « **Reply #40 on:** May 14, 2011, 12:59 PM »

Quote from: lanux128 on May 14, 2011, 04:50 AM

Quote from: Deozaan on May 14, 2011, 04:20 AM
Quote from: lanux128 on May 14, 2011, 01:57 AM
but.. but.. Gabe claims that "Mac is 5 times more stable than windows running games".

That could be because there is less diverse Mac hardware supported/available. $:-\$

well, the lack of diversity in Mac hardware is obviously obvious and big Gabe is milking it all he can by being sensational.. basically Valve/Steam have identified a big void in Mac gaming and are trying to fill it with their "cross-platform" games.

Well...it's good marketing strategy at any rate. Playing suck-up to the Appleistas (by way of a token nod to the Mac's innate superiority and some low key Windows bashing) is almost a requirement if your product is cross-platform and you want to sell it to that crowd.

Gotta be some logical reason why Mac users often pay more and have to put up with so much nonsense, right?

lanux128 · « **Reply #41 on:** May 15, 2011, 04:32 AM »

Quote from: Carol Haynes on May 14, 2011, 11:59 AM

Seems pretty stable on my system - the only time I have probs is if I accidentally press the windows key.

the windows key problem can be easily fixed. use something like WinKey Killer, the original website is no more but the program can be found here.

Quote from: Carol Haynes on May 14, 2011, 11:59 AM

Lanux what's your name on Steam - I don't seem to have received an invite or have you listed?

no worries, you've already added me, this is me..

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lanux128 · « **Reply #42 on:** May 15, 2011, 04:37 AM »

Quote from: 40hz on May 14, 2011, 12:59 PM

Well...it's good marketing strategy at any rate. Playing suck-up to the Appleistas (by way of a token nod to the Mac's innate superiority and some low key Windows bashing) is almost a requirement if your product is cross-platform and you want to sell it to that crowd.

Gotta be some logical reason why Mac users often pay more and have to put up with so much nonsense, right?

yup, what Apple has is a very exquisite salesmanship skills. something that makes their customers go "Ooh La La" every time they're throwing their money at Apple..

Carol Haynes · « **Reply #43 on:** May 15, 2011, 09:08 AM »

Quote from: lanux128 on May 15, 2011, 04:32 AM

Quote from: Carol Haynes on May 14, 2011, 11:59 AM
Seems pretty stable on my system - the only time I have probs is if I accidentally press the windows key.

the windows key problem can be easily fixed. use something like WinKey Killer, the original website is no more but the program can be found here.

Quote from: Carol Haynes on May 14, 2011, 11:59 AM
Lanux what's your name on Steam - I don't seem to have received an invite or have you listed?

no worries, you've already added me, this is me..

LOL - can't imagine why I didn't guess that!

Deozaan · « **Reply #44 on:** May 15, 2011, 11:53 AM »

Hey Lanux, how did you get your Steam friend's list to look like Firefox?

jgpaiva · « **Reply #45 on:** May 15, 2011, 01:23 PM »

I actually have already finished Portal (1)

That's why I'm really curious about Portal2!

It does run decently in the macbook, even though not as well as it did run in my windows machine (which was supposed to be slower than the mac). Not wanting to fuel the mac vs windows, but I've already read a few times that if you install windows on the mac, the game will actually run faster than in OSX

. (from what I understand, this happens because the windows version uses direct3d whereas the OSX version uses openGL).

I'm now working on getting some free space to run this on windows

Josh · « **Reply #46 on:** May 15, 2011, 01:52 PM »

Quote from: jgpaiva on May 15, 2011, 01:23 PM

(from what I understand, this happens because the windows version uses direct3d whereas the OSX version uses openGL).

But wait, some people on various forums, including this one, tell me that open standards like "OpenGL" are much better for everyone? Are you saying that DirectX is actually faster than an open competitor?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Ath · « **Reply #47 on:** May 15, 2011, 02:28 PM »

DirectX is usually faster than OpenGL because most hardware manufacturers only develop decently optimized drivers for DirectX and not (or at least much less optimized) for OpenGL, as most games support/expect/require DirectX. And .NET graphics' subsystem is optimized for DirectX as well (WPF only shines/performs well on video chips with Direct9c+ hardware support with the correct drivers installed).

Open standards are indeed better because they are open, not technically better in all cases. $:-\$

Josh · « **Reply #48 on:** May 15, 2011, 02:33 PM »

Not to sidetrack this thread, but why has OpenGL never really seen wide adoption? I remember seeing OpenGL as a driver option when playing duke nukem 3d back in the early 90s. It is available for Windows, you can use it. Is this a case of the open product not offering what the proprietary systems can?

Lashiec · « **Reply #49 on:** May 15, 2011, 04:38 PM »

It has wide adoption, but not in all fields. When it comes to professional games on consoles and the PC, there are a bunch of reasons why DirectX eventually won the upper hand, and then some more like better tools for DirectX and the fact that DirectX is not as closed as it may seem, as newer specifications are always developed in close association with hardware makers, who know exactly what developers demand from new technologies.

The Wikipedia also has another relevant article^w.