Unable to compete with the Kindle, Apple wants a cut of ebook sales
« on: February 02, 2011, 02:10 PM »
Topic: Unable to compete with the Kindle, Apple wants a cut of ebook sales (Read 32,011 times)
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Apple has responded to the furor over its supposed App Store policy changes that many believe could affect the popular Kindle, Nook and Sony Reader apps. The company claims it has not changed any of its guidelines given to developers, but it indirectly confirms that accessing content purchased elsewhere could be a no-no if that content isn’t also available to be purchased through Apple’s own system. Buzz began Tuesday morning when The New York Times said that Sony’s e-reader app had been rejected, citing Apple’s restriction on in-app book purchases. This in itself was not a new policy — Apple doesn’t allow apps to sell content to users unless that content passes through the official Apple ecosystem, where Apple gets a 30 percent cut. Apple also allegedly told Sony that the app couldn’t access content purchased on other Sony Reader devices, which is where most of the outrage was focused. Amazon’s Kindle app and Barnes & Noble’s Nook app are both popular mechanisms for users to download and read books that they have purchased from the respective stores. Many feared that this supposed change in Apple policy would take their e-books away from their iPads, iPhones and iPod touches.
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If Amazon and Sony don't understand they have the upper hand here, then they're idiots. Apple merely wants to have it all and control it all and make money off of every single point of their gadgets. Why anyone would want Apple's money-sucking devices are beyond me.
I wonder how long Apple can keep this up. They make good stuff, but it's only a matter of time before they have to let go of their closed system little by little. Their userbase is growing a lot, and they are going to be asking for this and that, which means more options and capabilities are going to be demanded. And Apple will have to satisfy them somehow. If they want to keep this success they have going on, they have to let it go a little.
I can't agree completely with that, but I do enjoy the sentiment! I'm all for Apple going straight to hell if any other company starts making stuff as well-made as the Apple stuff. If another company can make a $700 tablet that is as awesome as the ipad, then please, please do. I beg you! No cheap, plastic stuff that doesn't even work half as well. (well, my ipad alarm has failed me the last two days...). I don't know what Sony's problem is...make a tablet already, shit. My techno-geek fantasy is Apple/Sony merging into the ultimate super company. In the fantasy, Sony would be in charge of the technology R&D, and Apple would do all the marketing and design, Interface. And I would be CEO, and would not allow anything that restricted basic conveniences. I would make it hacker friendly. Ok, maybe not....I may prove to be a hypocrite if I ever become a big wig.I wonder how long Apple can keep this up. They make good stuff, but it's only a matter of time before they have to let go of their closed system little by little. Their userbase is growing a lot, and they are going to be asking for this and that, which means more options and capabilities are going to be demanded. And Apple will have to satisfy them somehow. If they want to keep this success they have going on, they have to let it go a little.
Quite to the contrary... I think Apple should clamp down as tightly as they can on their little nut. That way there wont be any chance of them falling of while they ride it straight to hell.
...Afterwhich we can all be free of their foolish money-grubbing nonsense.
^ That sums up my thoughts. At least the first part about how other companies waste (and I mean WASTE) opportunities, and Apple comes along and 're-innovates' old ideas to make something that completely changes the game. How many years were the *same* companies that are making *killer* smartphones *now* in the game before Apple arrived? Why couldn't they do *then* what they're doing *now*? The same with *anything* that Apple produces? It's like they need Apple to lead the charge to usability before they'll waste their time on something so inconsequential. It's *so* frustrating!in my opinion, the best example of all of this is Sony's ultra-FAIL of the minidisc. Think about it. Sony invented the minidisc in the early 90's. When did digital music players really become mainstream? circa 2002. Don't mention rio and stuff, because it wasn't that mainstream. The ipod is what made portable audio mainstream. The point is, Sony had a DECADE head start. A freaking decade!! In those 10 years, all they had to do was make it easy for people to transfer music from their computers to the minidisc and ipod would probably have never happened. But they never let go of the restrictions. Then the ipod came along and allowed you to dump anything into it (but not get it out!), and that changed the world. Apple was revived, and we've seen how a smart company takes advantage of their luck or whatever. unlike Sony who consistently destroy's any leg up they have. Fortunately, their stuff is amazing and usually stands the test of time, where Apple's stuff usually gets old pretty quick (which is on purpose, to keep the hype up on all their annual updates, smart). Sony F'd up really bad there. All they had to do was that one thing market it properly. Everything else was in place. But no, they made it super hard to get your own stuff on a minidisc. And they made it equally hard to get it off. Hmmm...that last sentance is a little dirty...that goes in my dirty talk quotebook.
Not a week goes by without something reassuring me I made the right decision by not investing in a proprietary ebook reader.Don't do it man! By the end of 2011, i don't see how those readers will be doing. If the Android and Windows tablet market actually starts producing decent products, who's going to buy kindles and stuff? They're going to keep saying that the e-ink displays are better on the eyes vs the tablet screens, but that's a bunch of bullshit. Whatever little truth there is in that, it's the only point they are hanging on to. i read pdf's on my ipad, and it's a great experience. I know that I can put any pdf on there and read it in whichever reading app I happen to prefer. i don't need to read it in Sony's or Amazon's reader in case there are features in it I don't like.
This week's no exception.
in my opinion, the best example of all of this is Sony's ultra-FAIL of the minidisc.
before the mp3 players came out, it was the most kick ass technology out there. you just didn't have freedom to use it the way you wanted to. It all comes down to one thing: transferring audio back and forth conveniently. So you're comment may apply now, but you have to consider how things were 20 years ago. Shit, has it really been that long??in my opinion, the best example of all of this is Sony's ultra-FAIL of the minidisc.
Who ever would buy into the sony minidisc? Certainly not I...........
But Sony never gave in to that.
But Sony never gave in to that.
Largely because the American recording industry threatened to sue and legislate Sony into oblivion if direct digital to digital copying was implemented on the minidisc system.
Thanks for that info. Then how did Apple get away with it? or any of those early digital players? What was the difference then and in the early 90's? Was it just a matter of time, and the recording industry had just accepted the fact?But Sony never gave in to that.
Largely because the American recording industry threatened to sue and legislate Sony into oblivion if direct digital to digital copying was implemented on the minidisc system.
This was right after the major labels had effectively prevented DAT tape decks from finding an American market via a combination of legal threats and political pressure to get legislation passed restricting its use. So Sony was more than a little nervous. Especially since they also wanted to start selling commercial music recordings on the minidisc format, and therefor couldn't afford to alienate the rest of the recording industry.
Sony may have been shortsighted in caving in. But at the time it was probably the only option they had, even if it did ultimately doom their snazzy little disc.
They're going to keep saying that the e-ink displays are better on the eyes vs the tablet screens, but that's a bunch of bullshit.
I wish there was a way to like a reply. Renegade's sums up my feelings
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They're going to keep saying that the e-ink displays are better on the eyes vs the tablet screens, but that's a bunch of bullshit.
Slightly off-topic, I guess, but that's quite something to state as a bald fact. Many would disagree. I can't read anything on an LCD screen for more than two or three pages without my eyes burning (and I've always bought very good screens). I send any long article I want to read to my Kindle, which is one of my best ever purchases.
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