Author Topic: Google Chrome -- a new browser coming (in beta) in a few hours (Read 270,616 times)

urlwolf · « **Reply #100 on:** September 03, 2008, 02:59 PM »

Did you see the way it marks search occurrences on the left scroll bar? Nifty! (Search is ctrl F)

urlwolf · « **Reply #101 on:** September 03, 2008, 03:07 PM »

Lashiec, is this what you mean by Opera's adblocker:
http://mtsix.com/articles/2006/08/opera-9-ad-blocking.html

It's primitive as hell, you have to select ads you don't want to see by hand!

fenixproductions · « **Reply #102 on:** September 03, 2008, 03:12 PM »

2justice
I am not saying that Google is but might. At least some users explains bugs (or protect authors) using this as an excuse.

Maybe it is strange but I feel that I can trust any application with "final" or "stable" suffixes and be sure that authors guarantee some level of professionalism. In the case of beta I can only stay aware that something bad might always happen because no one holds responsibility at all. I am not trying to be like "Google sucks, lol haxorz!!11oneoneone" but I want to point out something strange behind it.

Why, after few years of development, they can't just publish something stable? Does it not make you wander?

Edited
How can "beta" be mentioned in help only if everytime as I go to google.com I can see "New! Download Chrome (BETA) - the new browser from Google" message?

Lashiec · « **Reply #103 on:** September 03, 2008, 03:25 PM »

Quote from: urlwolf on September 03, 2008, 03:07 PM

Lashiec, is this what you mean by Opera's adblocker:
http://mtsix.com/articles/2006/08/opera-9-ad-blocking.html

It's primitive as hell, you have to select ads you don't want to see by hand!

There, a more modern version (click on the Opera logo), it even has an Element Hider, and performs mostly like Adblock Plus on Firefox.

urlwolf · « **Reply #104 on:** September 03, 2008, 03:32 PM »

Thanks Lashiec.

Also, does anybody know how to change the minimum default size in Chrome?

urlwolf · « **Reply #105 on:** September 03, 2008, 03:38 PM »

ahh, finally a decent copy-paste with formatting

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It also has spelling on textboxes. Great.
The only thing I miss for fully moving away from Opera is M2 and (gmail could do) and intellicomplete working. Tough call on that one, as it's abandonware.

Lashiec · « **Reply #106 on:** September 03, 2008, 04:24 PM »

Whoo, in just one day the browser has more market share than Opera.

Edvard · « **Reply #107 on:** September 03, 2008, 04:40 PM »

Quote from: jgpaiva on September 02, 2008, 11:57 PM

Edvard: regarding '2': ctrl+shift+n, or something like that. It opens a new window on incognito mode

Yeah, I got that, I would just like to have a shortcut in my start menu that starts it up in incognito mode.

Regarding Linux:
http://dev.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/build-instructions-linux
(the following quote is outlined in a red text box at the head of the page)

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Note: There is no working Chromium-based browser on Linux. Although many Chromium submodules build under Linux and a few unit tests pass, all that runs is a command-line "all tests pass" executable.

sri · « **Reply #108 on:** September 03, 2008, 05:41 PM »

Quote from: sri on September 02, 2008, 07:18 PM

Chrome doesn't like me. No web page loads for me $:-\$

Fixed.

http://www.howtotuts.com/2008/09/03/how-to-fix-google-chromes-aw-snap-problem/

quartzite7 · « **Reply #109 on:** September 03, 2008, 06:27 PM »

Quote from: jgpaiva on September 02, 2008, 10:30 PM

Quote from: quartzite7 on September 02, 2008, 10:16 PM
GridMove does not work with Google Chrome!
Actually, it does work, but it interfeers with the changing of tabs, because they don't respect the standard look of windows.
Unfortunatelly, there's not much that can be done

What do you mean it does work? How?

jgpaiva · « **Reply #110 on:** September 03, 2008, 06:36 PM »

Quote from: quartzite7 on September 03, 2008, 06:27 PM

Quote from: jgpaiva on September 02, 2008, 10:30 PM
Quote from: quartzite7 on September 02, 2008, 10:16 PM
GridMove does not work with Google Chrome!
Actually, it does work, but it interfeers with the changing of tabs, because they don't respect the standard look of windows.
Unfortunatelly, there's not much that can be done

What do you mean it does work? How?

I see it's better we talk in PM, to avoid cluttering this thread. I'll follow up on PM.

40hz · « **Reply #111 on:** September 03, 2008, 07:13 PM »

Quote from: mouser on September 02, 2008, 03:14 PM

by the way -- does anyone know if there is a term in the field of commercial marketing where a company releases a product without the actual intention of spending much money marketing it -- but instead just to scare away or keep the competition in line, using the threat of large-scale marketing if a competitor tries to challenge them?

Don't know if there's a specific name for it other than FUD.

And FUD was something pioneered by none other than Thomas A. Edison.

Back in the days when he was referred to as The Wizard of Menlo Park, there was a general belief (in America) that anything that came from Edison and the fledgling Edison Electric Corporation was (or would be) vastly superior to anything else on the market.

Edison learned to capitalize on his reputation by denying emerging tech markets to his competitors. If a product came out that he was interested in, all he had to do was announce that his company would soon be coming out with its own version, and the other product would immediately stop selling.

Ehtyar · « **Reply #112 on:** September 03, 2008, 09:25 PM »

Apparently chrome will also automatically download executables from any URL without prompt. We can see here that Mountain View was obviously exercising the good old head noodle when they added that "feature" *cough*vulnerability*cough*.

Ehtyar.

urlwolf · « **Reply #113 on:** September 03, 2008, 09:34 PM »

Quote from: Ehtyar on September 03, 2008, 09:25 PM

Apparently chrome will also automatically download executables from any URL without prompt. We can see here that Mountain View was obviously exercising the good old head noodle when they added that "feature" *cough*vulnerability*cough*.

Ehtyar.

Well, this is even scarier:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10031661-56.html?tag=newsLeadStoriesArea.0

Google is looking more and more evil by the minute.

Ehtyar · « **Reply #114 on:** September 03, 2008, 09:40 PM »

Good freakin' god!!! How bad does this have to get before people will wake up?!

Ehtyar.

urlwolf · « **Reply #115 on:** September 03, 2008, 10:22 PM »

It can be fixed by disabling autocompleter in options:
http://coderrr.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/google-chrome-privacy-worse-than-you-think/

urlwolf · « **Reply #116 on:** September 03, 2008, 10:29 PM »

I love this comment though:

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Chrome is, practically, a brilliant new operating system. It has a new permissions structure, built in malware protection, a compiler, a javascript virtual machine, a task manager, a rendering engine, a new process management system, local storage, and is wicked fast. This is the biggest technical jump in browser tech since mosaic.

You'd hear this much about a new windows or mac os, but it would mean far less. Chrome will open the way for web apps that are as good, as robust, and as beautiful as desktop apps. It's more than just hype.

Ehtyar · « **Reply #117 on:** September 03, 2008, 10:34 PM »

Quote from: urlwolf on September 03, 2008, 10:22 PM

It can be fixed by disabling autocompleter in options:
http://coderrr.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/google-chrome-privacy-worse-than-you-think/

IMO there is no "fix" for this short of a recompile without Google spy code.

Quote from: urlwolf on September 03, 2008, 10:29 PM

I love this comment though:
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Chrome is, practically, a brilliant new operating system.

ROFL!

Ehtyar.

Darwin · « **Reply #118 on:** September 03, 2008, 10:35 PM »

Quote from: Ehtyar on September 03, 2008, 09:40 PM

Good freakin' god!!! How bad does this have to get before people will wake up?!

Ehtyar.

Mmph. Snort. Cough. <eyes flutter open> Wha...?

uninstalling now...

This scared me as well (even if it probably doesn't affect me anyway)...

Dang ehtyar and urlwolf! Give us a chance to post this! That's about five posts while I've been trying to get this one up. Sheesh

Darwin · « **Reply #119 on:** September 03, 2008, 10:37 PM »

FWIW - I'm going to watch Google Chrome. However, if the early reports about the way in which it gathers and stores information about the dolt on the other end using it is true, they are surely flirting with legal action (class action suits, anti-trust laws, etc.). No?

Ehtyar · « **Reply #120 on:** September 03, 2008, 10:41 PM »

One would hope so indeed, though I daresay it's gotten to the point that Google has so much legal clout that really no one would bother, especially if Google is already running around saying "We'll fix it, we'll fix it!". That sort of thing just seems to make everyone remember that the sun shines out of google.com.

Ehtyar.

P.S. Sorry for cutting you off, I guess we forgot that other people are upset about Chrome too

fenixproductions · « **Reply #121 on:** September 03, 2008, 10:45 PM »

2Darwin
Be sure to cleanup completely, especially:
HKCU\Software\Google\Update\UsageStats\

Darwin · « **Reply #122 on:** September 03, 2008, 10:49 PM »

Quote from: Ehtyar on September 03, 2008, 10:41 PM

P.S. Sorry for cutting you off, I guess we forgot that other people are upset about Chrome too

No worries!

Quote from: fenixproductions on September 03, 2008, 10:45 PM

2Darwin
Be sure to cleanup completely, especially:
HKCU\Software\Google\Update\UsageStats\

Thanks for the heads up - I didn't know about that one. My comfort level is not improved by seeing the kinds of info that that contained. I should have read it more clearly and written some of it down before deleting, but didn't... Stuff that I remember includes "User has UAC enabled"

Ehtyar · « **Reply #123 on:** September 03, 2008, 10:51 PM »

Quote from: Darwin on September 03, 2008, 10:49 PM

Quote from: fenixproductions on September 03, 2008, 10:45 PM
2Darwin
Be sure to cleanup completely, especially:
HKCU\Software\Google\Update\UsageStats\

Thanks for the heads up - I didn't know about that one. My comfort level is not improved by seeing the kinds of info that that contained. I should have read it more clearly and written some of it down before deleting, but didn't... Stuff that I remember includes "User has UAC enabled"

Me either, thanks! Also not sure if i mentioned it yet, but uninstalling chrome does not uninstall the Google Updater, you have to manually remove it from local appdata (same install location as Chrome itself.

Ehtyar.

Darwin · « **Reply #124 on:** September 03, 2008, 11:00 PM »

Doh! I'll have to go digging around to get rid of the updater - I hate automatic updaters and I sense that I really don't want this one on my system!

Thanks ehtyar