DonationCoder.com forum
 
Read-only archive. This is a static copy of the DonationCoder.com forum. Reading and searching work as before; logging in, posting and private messages do not.
Archive of 2026-10-21 · About this archive · Main site

Author Topic: Need help with Vista Backup  (Read 13,505 times)

TWmailrec

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2005
  • ***
  • Posts: 130
    • Coding Snacks
Need help with Vista Backup
« on: May 16, 2008, 01:37 AM »
I have been developing a program to backup complete XP / 98 windows systems
to a large dedicated partition for zip backups.
Now that I have installed Vista (multiboot system) in a partition, I find it impossible to zip/delete & unzip the vista "Documents and Settings" & "Users" directories from within the XP C: drive.

Can anyone suggest a way to unlock these directories from within XP, or suggest a program that has got round the problem??

nudone

  • Cody's Creator
  • Columnist
  • Joined in 2005
  • ***
  • Posts: 4,119
    • Cody Award
Re: Need help with Vista Backup
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2008, 06:05 AM »
is this problem due to not having the correct user permissions to view the folders, i.e. it's nothing to do with making them into archives?

not sure if it would work like that but that's my first guess.

MerleOne

  • 4D thinking
  • Supporting Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • **
  • Posts: 957
Re: Need help with Vista Backup
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2008, 06:54 AM »
I have been developing a program to backup complete XP / 98 windows systems
to a large dedicated partition for zip backups.
Now that I have installed Vista (multiboot system) in a partition, I find it impossible to zip/delete & unzip the vista "Documents and Settings" & "Users" directories from within the XP C: drive.

Can anyone suggest a way to unlock these directories from within XP, or suggest a program that has got round the problem??

You could try XYPlorer, which can sometimes access special folders where other file manager can't.  And use it in conjunction with mstTotalAccess Pro which lifts all restrictions due to  access authorization.  Both are payware, but there is a free edition for XYPlorer.  Both can be evaluated for a short period of time.
.merle1.

TWmailrec

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2005
  • ***
  • Posts: 130
    • Coding Snacks
Re: Need help with Vista Backup
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2008, 02:23 PM »
Many thanks for the info.
I use the same username (as administrator) across the platforms, but I guess system security retricts access.

I will try to check out mstTotalAccess Pro and XYplorer and see if I can manually perform zip backup/restore first.

MerleOne

  • 4D thinking
  • Supporting Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • **
  • Posts: 957
Re: Need help with Vista Backup
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2008, 07:31 PM »
Many thanks for the info.
I use the same username (as administrator) across the platforms, but I guess system security retricts access.

I will try to check out mstTotalAccess Pro and XYplorer and see if I can manually perform zip backup/restore first.

http://www.mstsoftware.com/en/Products%5Cmst-TotalAccess is the link for mstTotalAccess
.merle1.

TWmailrec

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2005
  • ***
  • Posts: 130
    • Coding Snacks
Re: Need help with Vista Backup
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2008, 04:15 AM »
I have now experimented with mstTotalAccess Pro but so far it doesnt resolve the problem - I only used the trial program, to see if it worked.
I have contacted mst to get their advice on this.

TWmailrec

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2005
  • ***
  • Posts: 130
    • Coding Snacks
Re: Need help with Vista Backup
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2008, 02:57 AM »
I have now re-downloaded and installed mst TotalAcess and it seems to work perfectly.

Many thanks for all the help! - especially to Merleone for suggesting
mst TotalAccess.

MerleOne

  • 4D thinking
  • Supporting Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • **
  • Posts: 957
Re: Need help with Vista Backup
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2008, 11:43 AM »
:Thmbsup: Glad it worked.  mstTotalAccess is really a nice tool !
.merle1.

TWmailrec

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2005
  • ***
  • Posts: 130
    • Coding Snacks
Re: Need help with Vista Backup
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2008, 02:20 AM »
I still find it impossible to delete "Documents and settings" and "users" directories from the Vista partition, while running XP.
mstTotalAccess Pro doesnt seem to resolve the problem.

The directory attributes that I can change do not make directories deletable.

Can anyone explain this?

MerleOne

  • 4D thinking
  • Supporting Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • **
  • Posts: 957
Re: Need help with Vista Backup
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2008, 11:54 AM »
These folders are probably seen as "system" folders, hence locked against deletion.  You have to reassign the users folder to another one.  That's just a possibility.

How to do that : in the properties of the users folder there should be a special tab or option to relocate it.
.merle1.

TWmailrec

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2005
  • ***
  • Posts: 130
    • Coding Snacks
Re: Need help with Vista Backup
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2008, 12:01 AM »
Ive checked properties (from XP) for Documents and settings, and
can only see attributes where Hidden is checked and greyed out,
and under "Advanced", Archive and Index Attributes.

There is also "Network sharing and Security" under "Sharing" Tab.
I havent found "Relocation" option.

My  idea is to delete all Vista dirs and unzip different version from ZIPed Backups. My program normally deletes and unzips systems automatically,- but cannot delete Vista "Documents and Settings" and "ProgramData"

Original address: https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=13371.0